The Bible can't logically explain dinosaurs

[Slayrix]

In the Bible on day six ALL living things are created. But how can that be if the fall hasn't happened yet? When it says ALL living animals that means carnivores too, but if it's before the fall then death cannot occur, even to animals. So how could things such as carnivores, things like T-Rexes live for thousands, maybe millions of years while Adam and Eve were in the garden, without a single bit of food? That would have to mean in the beginning carnivores didn't exist and instead EVOLVED after the fall, but then that doesn't work either because evolution completely rips apart a bunch of religious ideas. We know dinosaurs exist, we know T-Rexes exist, yet the Bible cannot possibly explain it logically how they came to exist.

Also according to the Bible's logic since carnivores couldn't have possibly lived before the fall, that means the only way T-Rexes could have ever come to be is if humans co-existed with dinosaurs. But we have not been able to find any evidence that humans live even close to the time period of dinosaurs, so how does that work?

Things just don't add up here.

[Slayrix]

Messaggio originale di Neurotic Panda:

lol..

the bible cant logically explain dinosaurs...

but but ''l'll' believe in aliens and ghosts and OMG OMG bigfoot because the history channel told me and this one time i thought i saw something and i was scared and it was dark and OMG it was a bigfoot ghost !!! Also there is that one guy who runs around dark house and acts scared and sees things. OMG soooo scary and REAL.. but the bible? haha omg thats just TO unbelievable. History channel doesn't have a 'reality' show about that so its just fake. But just the bible. not other religions, those are all legit and i dont make fun of those.

also you bring this to steam OT where nothing is ever logically explained and if you try its met with memes and idiocy.

funny topic. also go study theology more if you want answers to these type of questions. this stuff has been studied and answered for decades.

moving on.. :GHSleep: :♥♥♥♥:

Aliens make sense, espeically if you don't believe in religion, I mean what are the chances that out of the million of light years there exists of our universe, that only once life happened? That just seems weird to me, especially if you see life as a thing that was made and formed naturally and not by a higher being.

As an Atheist saying aliens don't exist because we haven't seen them yet would be like taking a spoonful of water out of the ocean, not seeing any fish in there, then saying fish don't exist because they weren't present in the spoon, we just haven't looked enough to reasonably conclude we truly are alone in this universe.

Especially if life truly is a natural phenomena, then that would be even weirder if it only occurred in one place in this massive universe.

If you ask me, life is just a very specific chemical reaction that somehow creates a self replicating RNA, from there life can blossom into anything.

Do I believe aliens have visited Earth though? Not at all. If they did we would likely be an extinct species.

[Goldias]

If you ask the priest in your area, they probably can.

Still, if you believe any holy text from any religion as fact, you should check your brain.

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

The Bible can't logically explain "Stupid People".

What is your point?

[Netaris]

Messaggio originale di MistuhG:

On the other hand, modern literature can't logically explain what a woman is, but that was pretty well understood in the bible. LOL
I guess you win some you lose some.

And science can explain both to an extend, way better than religions at least. Yes, peoples who believe in gender stuff nonsense are as religious as their traditionnal counterparts. They just don't label themselve as religious peoples, but they are. They believe to be right, against all reason and that everyone who doesn't agree with them is some kind of heretic that need to be purged.

Messaggio originale di Jim Lahey:

Messaggio originale di Ad Victoriam !:

Like any religious texts, they're all BS as their only purpose was always to control weak peoples and do politics while calling it "spirituality".

I thought religious texts were a way to explain the natural world before the discovery of physics.

Both are true, but religious peoples don't seek for explanations, they don't care about truth. What they care about is mental peace, they want to be part of a powerfull group, with little to no chalenges against their belief system. They don't care if what they believe in is true or not, a religion is a tool to create large groups of peoples with the same values, beliefs, customs and sensibilities. God is the best authority argument they were able to create "believe in what we say, or the very creator of the universe will punish you personnally.", like if he existed he would care about such stuff human do ... Ants kill each other by millions every years, making humans look peacefull in comparison, nature isn't peacefull or moral or even fair, it's a fight for survival, for ressources, for sex partners, if you stop fighting you start dying. That's the reality a lot of peoples flee in religions, because it's easier to believe in a god that listen to you, so you can influence it, than into physics laws, that doesn't care at all about your feelings. You can pray all you want, if you fall from a building there is very high chances that you'll die, no matter how much you pray.

[Unexpected]

most animals that exist and previously existed were never mentioned in the bible, what's your point?

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Out of curiosity, why would the bible include the dinos? Remember most religious texts only deal with subjects that matter critically to the story at hand, like Moses going up on the mountain and finding those that came with him when he came back worshiping a Golden Ox is something that within reason makes sense when the Canaanites (a way older religion that I think has largely died off) used actual Bronze-statues of Ox's and cattle calfs as worshiping idols, its believable because to a standard the statue to the Canaanites meant Happiness, dispite what the bible says on it, the reason I bring it up shows that they used the actual item of the Canaanites Golden/Bronze Ox, while not giving details on what they were worshiping to hide if it was indeed Canaanites-based or otherwise.

Dino's have no real actual requirement to be in the story, as Jesus didn't really exist at the time period they were in and lets not forget that the Garden of Eden is a HIDDEN sanctuary, so Adam and Eve would of never seen the dinos if any existed while they were alive, as a matter of fact here's one.

The book uses the Cross which before Christianity was the Roman punishment of Cruxifiction, basically they would put you on two planks of wood and display to the public the prisoners, get this however: in Roman law, you were not allowed to harm these people on the cruxificuses as those on them would either be allowed off of them after a certain time or died on them, those that died were unhooked by Roman solders and given to members of the former prisoners family, hence why the body of Jesus was handed over to his followers, THAT IS ACTUALLY how it would of went down, so they (Sorry to even put it like this) nailed that part of actual roman punishment down rather damn well in the telling of the story, but they left out the parts of those soldiers sometimes tortured those on the cruxificuses as it was not really important to know if Jesus was tortured on the cross or not, we just needed to know he died for our sins.

[Netaris]

All I see is that there is two very successfull books for humanity : The Bible, that serve no purpose other than "uniting" a large group of peoples under some laws, beliefs and customs, with mixed results ...

And Elements, a book written by Euclid, about maths and geometry, used until relatively recently to teach to engineers and other peoples like that.

The first is for humans to feel good and is top 1, the second is for humans to understand how things works. I can live without the first one easilly, but living without the second one will be way less enjoyable for everyone ...

[Ice Robertson]

I've never read the bible, All i know is that being a good person feels better than being a prick and doing good helps with the soul.

If i wanna read science fiction (like the bible) then I'll read my rage war trilogy again.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

Does the Bible explain where the people came from after Adam and Eve? Didn't they just have 3 sons?

[Haruspex]

Most organized religion tells you to completely ignore all these doubts and just shut up and give them 10% of your income.

Religion relies on faith. Doubt is lethal to faith, and once doubt works it's way in to your mind it's impossible to dislodge.

Therefore critical thinking is forbidden. Just shut up, go to church, quit thinking so much, and give us your money so our pastor can buy a new boat.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di Abaddon the Despoiler:

Does the Bible explain where the people came from after Adam and Eve? Didn't they just have 3 sons?

I mean the book also says that god put a sentient flaming sword in front of one of the gates, keep in mind this would of been before humanity had any idea how to smelt ore soooooooooo...........

[em_t_hed]

as far as the US Defense budget is concerned... you're right... logically it can't

[Violent Rainbow]

God was a dinosaur, you can't disprove it.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di Violent Rainbow:

God was a dinosaur, you can't disprove it.

Bigger question for ya.

If we only know god as light.













Is god a Single-cell Organism of unbelievable size, or no?

[Slayrix]

Messaggio originale di Shizune:

Out of curiosity, why would the bible include the dinos? Remember most religious texts only deal with subjects that matter critically to the story at hand, like Moses going up on the mountain and finding those that came with him when he came back worshiping a Golden Ox is something that within reason makes sense when the Canaanites (a way older religion that I think has largely died off) used actual Bronze-statues of Ox's and cattle calfs as worshiping idols, its believable because to a standard the statue to the Canaanites meant Happiness, dispite what the bible says on it, the reason I bring it up shows that they used the actual item of the Canaanites Golden/Bronze Ox, while not giving details on what they were worshiping to hide if it was indeed Canaanites-based or otherwise.

Dino's have no real actual requirement to be in the story, as Jesus didn't really exist at the time period they were in and lets not forget that the Garden of Eden is a HIDDEN sanctuary, so Adam and Eve would of never seen the dinos if any existed while they were alive, as a matter of fact here's one.

The book uses the Cross which before Christianity was the Roman punishment of Cruxifiction, basically they would put you on two planks of wood and display to the public the prisoners, get this however: in Roman law, you were not allowed to harm these people on the cruxificuses as those on them would either be allowed off of them after a certain time or died on them, those that died were unhooked by Roman solders and given to members of the former prisoners family, hence why the body of Jesus was handed over to his followers, THAT IS ACTUALLY how it would of went down, so they (Sorry to even put it like this) nailed that part of actual roman punishment down rather damn well in the telling of the story, but they left out the parts of those soldiers sometimes tortured those on the cruxificuses as it was not really important to know if Jesus was tortured on the cross or not, we just needed to know he died for our sins.

I am just pointing out how dinos have been proven to have existed absolutely does not match up with what the Bible says.