Slayrix 6 MAY 2023 a las 15:57
The Bible can't logically explain dinosaurs
In the Bible on day six ALL living things are created. But how can that be if the fall hasn't happened yet? When it says ALL living animals that means carnivores too, but if it's before the fall then death cannot occur, even to animals. So how could things such as carnivores, things like T-Rexes live for thousands, maybe millions of years while Adam and Eve were in the garden, without a single bit of food? That would have to mean in the beginning carnivores didn't exist and instead EVOLVED after the fall, but then that doesn't work either because evolution completely rips apart a bunch of religious ideas. We know dinosaurs exist, we know T-Rexes exist, yet the Bible cannot possibly explain it logically how they came to exist.

Also according to the Bible's logic since carnivores couldn't have possibly lived before the fall, that means the only way T-Rexes could have ever come to be is if humans co-existed with dinosaurs. But we have not been able to find any evidence that humans live even close to the time period of dinosaurs, so how does that work?

Things just don't add up here.
Última edición por Slayrix; 6 MAY 2023 a las 15:59
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Nekoborg 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:53 
The book of Geniuses hints at a few things.

The Exodus or expulsion from the Garden of Eden is a code message that only the enlightened will understand as meaning evolution or transition from a hunter gather lifestyle to a neolithic lifestyle with agricultural and animal husbandry.

Noah's flood is most likely hinting at the flooding events that happened as the great melting of Younger Dryas glaciers that happened a few thousand years after that Ice Age ended.

About 6000 BC they suspect that the heighten sea levels of the Atlantic Ocean finally burst through the straights of Gibraltar, also the Black Sea burst through to the lower sea levels of the Mediterranean sea.

I don't believe in the God as described by the Abrahamic religions. I do believe in my Nordic ancestors.

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King Narwhal 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:55 
Biblical literalism doesn't make sense in general. Same goes for most holy books. The whole point of faith is that you don't use logic or reasoning or an evidence-based approach. Then it wouldn't be faith, it'd be science.

Lots of world-shaping events that left far too little evidence that they occurred, if any at all, are mentioned in those books. The only way to reconcile it with modern scientific data is to engage in Last-Thursdayism

What's fun is when YECs try to pull quotes about mythical creatures, usually the "Behemoth" or "Dragon" and say that its a dinosaur when the descriptions of them don't fit. And then that's proof that dinosaurs and humans lived in the same time period, it's just that apparently they were confined to the middle east and never show up in any actual historical records and look nothing like the skeletal structures would lead you to believe.
LeviathanWon 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:55 
Animal wifer---reeeeeee.
breadman 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:56 
Publicado originalmente por Nekoborg:
The book of Geniuses
lol
Irene ❤ 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:58 
Like games have DLC and other contents to purchase,
for explanation of dinosaurs.. you must purchase another different book. :erune:
Última edición por Irene ❤; 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:58
LeviathanWon 6 MAY 2023 a las 16:59 
The book of sega genesis?
I...don't think it tried, as a matter of fact the Bible touches on only a few actual historical points entirely at all, the rest of it is self-thinking of people and words they've spoken.

I'm also rather dang sure that the span between dinos being wiped out and hairless apes retaking the earth is rather freaking huge, and even by the bible's own founding, the Roman Empire existed in its full form when Christianity got its footing.
LeviathanWon 6 MAY 2023 a las 17:02 
Nice guy, good wood worker.... great medic.... thanks...
Tonepoet 6 MAY 2023 a las 17:57 
This logic is kind of self defeating. If everything is immortal, then carnivorous animals can survive forever without eating any food whatsoever because they can not die from starvation.

Also, if we assume God is omniscient, then he would have had the foresight to create carnivorous features in anticipation of the fall.
Última edición por Tonepoet; 6 MAY 2023 a las 18:02
aka 6 MAY 2023 a las 18:06 
With man many things are impossible, but with God all things are possible -Matthew 19:26

Unfathomable tasks were accomplished throughout the Bible. God is most glorified by bringing an event to pass which is impossible to even conceive by his own creations.

I hope this helps you people understand better. :steamthumbsup:
Simple thing at the end of the day is this: The bible, like all other religious texts, are not to be taken as actual things that happened, their suppose to be read for spiritualism, not realism, the bible takes alot of existing things and added it to the collective text, such as Satan just being the Roman word of Light.

Seriously like no one gets that Apollo used a Morning Star and controlled light, his mistranslated name ended up as Lucifer, hence why there now even exists Lucifer The Light Bearer. In turn Satan being a fallen angel is stolen from Greek which Apollo is the son of Zeus, Zeus is the KING OF MOUNT OLYMPUS which is where he RESIDES

The thing is, taking all this into account shows how the bible is not to be used in the real world, no religion expects you to take what happened in it and display it in the real world, else if THEY DID then you'd be expecting the Shinto gods and goddessess to literally have a Day and Night war over the Goddess of the Sun having her husband murdered by the Goddess of the moon after one literally pulled a feast from their rear end.

Or how there is a blue four armed humanoid watching over all of us, or how there is even a god flying around with a hammer made of unknown metal that shoots lighting, their not meant to be taken as things that happened, or ever happened.
Grendalcat 6 MAY 2023 a las 18:17 
Don't need to explain when there are pics:

https://i.redd.it/da9xib96lr351.jpg
Kobs 6 MAY 2023 a las 18:49 
The bible is a storybook, they wrote what they wanted and told the simple minds this is the truth... we all know it isn't cause it's full of things that doesn't match
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zeke 6 MAY 2023 a las 19:01 
The passage is actually written in a sort of 'poetic' prose and not in the way strict historical accounts tended to be written by the ancient Jewish people. It was probably never meant by ancient Jews to be taken as a literal account (Side Note: None of this is to say I'm advocating putting any stock in any religion - just that there is a bit more to this passage than what many people have noticed and it can be a bit interesting).

The Torah's creation story in Genesis is meant to be set up in a kind of cyclical/mirrored form:

Day 1: Light ----------Day 4: Sun, moon, and stars
Day 2: Sky/waters -----------Day 5: Birds and fish
Day 3: Land and plants----------Day 6: (Land) Animals and humans

It is worth noting modern Jewish scholars do debate whether the passages should be understood as literal or as allegory.

There are a lot of a lot of patterns and meanings to be found in the Torah/prophets (Old Testament) and even a few things in the New Testament that tend to be lost on modern Christians who aren't taught about ancient Jewish culture and traditions.
Última edición por zeke; 6 MAY 2023 a las 19:03
Your_White_Knight 6 MAY 2023 a las 19:14 
Publicado originalmente por Slayrix:
The Bible can't logically explain dinosaurs

In the Bible on day six ALL living things are created. But how can that be if the fall hasn't happened yet? When it says ALL living animals that means carnivores too, but if it's before the fall then death cannot occur, even to animals. So how could things such as carnivores, things like T-Rexes live for thousands, maybe millions of years while Adam and Eve were in the garden, without a single bit of food? That would have to mean in the beginning carnivores didn't exist and instead EVOLVED after the fall, but then that doesn't work either because evolution completely rips apart a bunch of religious ideas. We know dinosaurs exist, we know T-Rexes exist, yet the Bible cannot possibly explain it logically how they came to exist.

Also according to the Bible's logic since carnivores couldn't have possibly lived before the fall, that means the only way T-Rexes could have ever come to be is if humans co-existed with dinosaurs. But we have not been able to find any evidence that humans live even close to the time period of dinosaurs, so how does that work?

Things just don't add up here.

The Bible doesn't have to explain dinosaurs... the Bible isn't ~about~ dinosaurs :steamfacepalm:
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