Young Women

[Bad Aim]

I am a big fan of the Netflix series Wednesday. That show was actually my first introduction to Jenna Ortega. After binge watching Wednesday, I had assumed that they had hired some teen to play the part.

I was honestly very shocked when I found out that she was over 18 years old. I was equally surprised to find out that she really doesn't need any make up to make herself look underage and she has posted pictures of herself in night clothes.

Emily Kinney is another actress who can really make herself look like a teen. Emily Kinney is most well known for her role in The Walking Dead and for her role in Alice vs Dorothy. Ms. Kinney is actually closer to my age. I saw a recent picture of her. While she no longer can pull off the teen look, she still looks very young for her age.

This got me thinking. On various social media platforms I see people post pictures of Ms. Ortega and profess their love for her or make some slightly veiled innuendo about having just one night with her.

A lot of these people are much older than Ms. Ortega. It makes my skin crawl to see crap like that, for many reasons. The reason for that is the very subtle idea of some older guy looking at a woman who could and has passed off as a teen lusting after her. Sure, she is an attractive woman. But doesn't lusting after her set off any alarm bells, if not in yourself but hopefully in your friends and family?

Real answers please. Am I making to much of this? Ms. Ortega is over age and the people who are lusting after her know this, so no-harm, no-foul, right?

Or am I on to something here? Maybe that idea of being attracted to a woman who looks very much like a child is a sign that something might not be right upstairs. Maybe these are the people we need to keep an eye on?

I am probably being to paranoid. I do have a teenage daughter who draws the looks of boys and men and that bothers me.

[davidb11]

Yeah, that's a weird thing to say for certain

[ZZZZZ]

Messaggio originale di Rymuga:

Messaggio originale di CaptainG:

thing is that most ppl between 15-30 usually look all the same age

...Wot

In think its easier for men to hide behind a beard but if they all would have no beard growth they would for sure look younger too

Messaggio originale di Mattmoo:

Messaggio originale di CaptainG:

thing is that most ppl between 15-30 usually look all the same age

Not really, people tend to say I look older than my age or younger, never the same age. That right there… Seems to disprove what you’re tryna say here. No way that can be right.

Last one I got was about early 30s.

What I think you mean to say is they look ‘young’.

I said most, atleast to me they do.. and it seems to a big part world population too when we look at movies and compare the character and actor ages

[davidb11]

Yeah, but not 15 or so.
LOL.

[Grim Reaper]

Christ, the law explicitly states that, in the US state of California the age of consent is 18 and above. Jenna Ortega is above 18. Another thing to ask, should people abide by the laws of the country they live in? yes.

Is it wrong to be sexually attracted to, or even perform sexual acts with someone over 18 within California's borders? By the law the answer is no. Do you get to decide what is weird? No you don't, you are just a guy from god knows where.


Putting up online posts of professing your love to a person who doesn't even know you on the other hand, is definitely weird.

[Rymuga]

Messaggio originale di CaptainG:

In think its easier for men to hide behind a beard but if they all would have no beard growth they would for sure look younger too

Yeah but I don't think a 30 year old man shaving his beard would make him look 15 lmaoo. Same thing vice versa for a 15 year old who grows a beard

Actually, can 15 y/o even grow beards??

[davidb11]

Messaggio originale di Grim Reaper:

Christ, the law explicitly states that, in the US state of California the age of consent is 18 and above. Jenna Ortega is above 18. Another thing to ask, should people abide by the laws of the country they live in? yes.

Is it wrong to be sexually attracted to, or even perform sexual acts with someone over 18 withing California's borders? By the law the answer is no. Do you get to decide what is weird? No you don't, you are just a guy from god knows where.


Putting up online posts of professing your love to a person who doesn't even know you on the other hand, is definitely weird.

I think one of the complaints was more about how she's playing someone younger, and it makes people finding the character sexy look creepy or something.
I could be wrong.

That being said, I do think the OP should be worried more about his own daughter any how.
Since she's going to have to deal with potentially weird people, both men and women.

[ZZZZZ]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

Yeah, but not 15 or so.
LOL.

Messaggio originale di Rymuga:

Messaggio originale di CaptainG:

In think its easier for men to hide behind a beard but if they all would have no beard growth they would for sure look younger too

Yeah but I don't think a 30 year old man shaving his beard would make him look 15 lmaoo. Same thing vice versa for a 15 year old who grows a beard

Actually, can 15 y/o even grow beards??

maybe its an european thing, some people say american teens look younger than european teens in general.. and yes, beard with 15 isnt even that uncommon, I even saw people starting with 12 when I was in school

[davidb11]

I think my beard started when I was 16, but it didn't really get going until I was 18, and even now, at the age of 40, it still takes a while to get way over the top. :P

[Rymuga]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

I think my beard started when I was 16, but it didn't really get going until I was 18, and even now, at the age of 40, it still takes a while to get way over the top. :P

I barely even had whiskers until I was 18, but ever since then it grows too damn fast

[Grim Reaper]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

Messaggio originale di Grim Reaper:

Christ, the law explicitly states that, in the US state of California the age of consent is 18 and above. Jenna Ortega is above 18. Another thing to ask, should people abide by the laws of the country they live in? yes.

Is it wrong to be sexually attracted to, or even perform sexual acts with someone over 18 withing California's borders? By the law the answer is no. Do you get to decide what is weird? No you don't, you are just a guy from god knows where.


Putting up online posts of professing your love to a person who doesn't even know you on the other hand, is definitely weird.

I think one of the complaints was more about how she's playing someone younger, and it makes people finding the character sexy look creepy or something.
I could be wrong.

That being said, I do think the OP should be worried more about his own daughter any how.
Since she's going to have to deal with potentially weird people, both men and women.

Ask yourself: Do you find the character or the actress sexy?

[davidb11]

I don't find either of them sexy?
It's not my problem here.

It's other people.

I can't influence them.

[Bad Aim]

Messaggio originale di Grim Reaper:

Christ, the law explicitly states that, in the US state of California the age of consent is 18 and above. Jenna Ortega is above 18. Another thing to ask, should people abide by the laws of the country they live in? yes.

Is it wrong to be sexually attracted to, or even perform sexual acts with someone over 18 within California's borders? By the law the answer is no. Do you get to decide what is weird? No you don't, you are just a guy from god knows where.


Putting up online posts of professing your love to a person who doesn't even know you on the other hand, is definitely weird.

I think the best answer to your response is to just respond with a cut and paste of an earlier response I made. I think it addresses all of what you said.

"In the example I gave, Ms. Ortega is more of a victim of the social construct we have built around women and girls. For the most part, Ms. Ortega herself is not to blame. She looks how she looks. She is not dressing up as a young girl for the purposes of arousing men.

It is the men who will do deep fakes of Ms. Ortega looking very much like Wednesday Addams but in her underclothes. It is the discussions of her on Facebook and Twitter regarding season 2 of Wednesday and the idea of a lesbian relationship, and how much make out they are going to show.

Brooke Shields is another perfect example of sexualizing a child. She had to run around on a movie set naked at the age of 14. Her first kiss was with a guy who was 29. I should say that Brooke, at the time, was underage. But that was okay because it was for a movie. And I really doubt that most men watching The Blue Lagoon (the movie she was naked in) cared that she was 14.

I could go on with examples of people, not just Hollywood, making women look like girls (Think of the slasher films. The women in those are suppose to be in high school) then sexualizing them. Or worse yet, taking actual minors and sexualizing them."

[davidb11]

He never said anything about Shota at all.
He said his daughter draws the looks of boys and men both.

Which means they look at her in real life.
He probably might not even know what Shota is.

[Lunar Fang]

Messaggio originale di Cernunnos:

I am a big fan of the Netflix series Wednesday. That show was actually my first introduction to Jenna Ortega. After binge watching Wednesday, I had assumed that they had hired some teen to play the part.

I was honestly very shocked when I found out that she was over 18 years old. I was equally surprised to find out that she really doesn't need any make up to make herself look underage and she has posted pictures of herself in night clothes.

Emily Kinney is another actress who can really make herself look like a teen. Emily Kinney is most well known for her role in The Walking Dead and for her role in Alice vs Dorothy. Ms. Kinney is actually closer to my age. I saw a recent picture of her. While she no longer can pull off the teen look, she still looks very young for her age.

This got me thinking. On various social media platforms I see people post pictures of Ms. Ortega and profess their love for her or make some slightly veiled innuendo about having just one night with her.

A lot of these people are much older than Ms. Ortega. It makes my skin crawl to see crap like that, for many reasons. The reason for that is the very subtle idea of some older guy looking at a woman who could and has passed off as a teen lusting after her. Sure, she is an attractive woman. But doesn't lusting after her set off any alarm bells, if not in yourself but hopefully in your friends and family?

Real answers please. Am I making to much of this? Ms. Ortega is over age and the people who are lusting after her know this, so no-harm, no-foul, right?

Or am I on to something here? Maybe that idea of being attracted to a woman who looks very much like a child is a sign that something might not be right upstairs. Maybe these are the people we need to keep an eye on?

I am probably being to paranoid. I do have a teenage daughter who draws the looks of boys and men and that bothers me.

I mean you're not her real parent, she'll be fine and make big girl decision without you.

I remember there was a model who was 22 and she looked young, but she's a model so she's gorgeous, but any men who were saying she was were getting called ped0s for finding her attractive saying she was underage being 22. So what she gets to date no one because of you trying to parent someone over age?

♥♥♥♥ outta here.

[davidb11]

What?
He is literally talking about his own daughter there!
Where in the world are you getting the idea he's ever talking about parenting anyone else?
LOL wut.

No, really, lol wut.
How could you ever think he was saying he was trying to stop Jenna Ortega from dating.