How do you win an argument when proof is not enough.

[Civiliangineer gaming]

What should be done when someone refuses to accept undeniable proof of a determined thing?

[Haruspex]

Don't argue to win. Argue for the sake of the "audience".

Basically treat it like you're not trying to convince the other person, you're trying to convince any observers, be they actual or theoretical. Particularly online. Imagine someone is doing Internet research on a topic, and a Google search on that topic happens to bring them to the thread you're arguing in. This researcher will look at all the arguments, including yours, and possibly come to a conclusion based on this information.

If you feel satisfied that your argument sufficiently covers all your opponent's points and that your own argument was presented well enough that a reasonable theoretical observer would reliably come to the conclusion that you are correct, then you've "won", whether your opponent believes it or not.

[Fosty]

Stop caring

[Fried Brains]

enough is never enough

[Netaris]

Publicado originalmente por civiliangineer gaming:

What should be done when someone refuses to accept undeniable proof of a determined thing?

Nothing, just leave this person alone.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Problem with ignoring them is that the amount of them keeps getting increasingly bigger and gets harder and harder to ignore.

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nothing you can do if they want to deny lmfao

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Publicado originalmente por Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

Publicado originalmente por Rumpelcrutchskin:

Problem with ignoring them is that the amount of them keeps getting increasingly bigger and gets harder and harder to ignore.

There are different reasons that it could get harder.
For what reason is it harder?

Because there are so many of them and internet makes it easy for them to find others like them.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Publicado originalmente por Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

Publicado originalmente por Rumpelcrutchskin:

Problem with ignoring them is that the amount of them keeps getting increasingly bigger and gets harder and harder to ignore.

Publicado originalmente por Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

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There are different reasons that it could get harder.
For what reason is it harder?

Publicado originalmente por Rumpelcrutchskin:

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Because there are so many of them and internet makes it easy for them to find others like them.

Okay? So what's so hard about just scrolling down?

Pretty sure it will eventually start to interfere with actual real life when there are enough people like this. Actually you are seeing it already.

[Vendicator Senpai]

Make a meme of you being the chad wojak and your opponent being the soy wojak

[Apollo702]

Here's how it's done:

• Quit social media and delete the accounts.
  
  
• Control who you have around you. Kick out friends and family. Only live in certain neighborhoods. Only work professional jobs. Be in the environment that stupid and crazy people can't get near.
  
  
• Be a person that commands respect- the kind that people don't start up with.
  
  
• Steer conversations.
  
  
• You present in professional situations such as YT, at work, conferences... where it isn't a debate. It is the professional dispensing talks.
  
  
• Refuse to engage.
  
  
• Go silent.
  
  
• Let them think they won.
  
  
• Walk away.
  
  
• Block communication.
  
  
• There is more. One can figure out the rest when they do these kinds of things.

Good luck!

[Devsman]

What I would do is stop trying to convince this person.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Publicado originalmente por civiliangineer gaming:

What should be done when someone refuses to accept undeniable proof of a determined thing?

ignore them

you already won

[Dwolfin]

When proof is not enough to win an argument, it's often because the disagreement is not based on rational thinking, but on emotional or ideological reasons. In these cases, it can be challenging to convince someone to change their mind, even if you present them with solid evidence.


Try to understand their point of view, use persuasive language and try to look for common ground.

Just know when to walk away, and give up. A mind that chooses to be changed can only be changed, and don't start the dominance game either because it will become impossible.

[sleeps]

either ignorantly nods or say their name or their mom's name

[aka]

Publicado originalmente por civiliangineer gaming:

What should be done when someone refuses to accept undeniable proof of a determined thing?

Why care what someone accepts ? let them stay ignorant, if 'proof' is not enough lol. We all reap what we sow, and the universe has a way of graciously facilitating the cold empty isolation well earned by those unaccepting of truth.