Guns and modern weapon in a fantasy world

[jaydciv]

I read some manga and watch some anime in wich some characthers are showing the use of guns or modern weapons in a fantasy environment or in a fantasy world. Some people gets upset and others not, in some stories they explain it and others not, but probably it was introduced by someone else
What is your toughts about this kind of thing. I can give examples if someone asks.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

If the creators put them there then they belong there. The readers/viewers don't decide that.

[friend robocat]

should have more works of fiction involving that premise

[permanent name]

So like the modern era but horses and straw huts instead of cars and sheet metal?

People wearing armor doesn't make much sense once guns start happening. Swords, clubs, etc kinda don't either.

[gugnihr]

It depends how they do it, fantasy in my opinion should mean anything goes, as long as it works well I like it. And as always art style is very important.
This is one of my favouite things in Masters of the universe* and in Shadow of the beast (not that there are many things I like about Shadow of the beast... but it is one of those things that I would want to like... you know what I mean...poor game design, unbalanced, frustrating, stupidly difficult...).
On the other hand I hated it in Breath of the wild, it was one of the things I hated the most in that game... Link for example uses a tablet, and I think there is even a horse shaped motorcycle (I saw pictures of it on the net, never actually used it, maybe it's a dlc), and I hated that stuff but if I think about itr well I hate the art style of Breath of the wild, this is what I really hate I think, how they made those things look.
Fantasy stuff must look ancient and evocative, modern stuff should look reasonably realistic, or realistic / futuristic, if you manage to put them together and make them look good the way they should look then I love it.
If you do a stupidly weird art style as they did with Breath of the wild, where both fantasy and modern stuff look the same and look weird, and the setting overall is not elegant and evocative enough then I don't like it.

*Obviously I like MOTU ONLY when it is faithful to the original art style.
There are versions of it that looks similar to Breath of the wild and I hate them.
I don't watch the tv shows, I just buy the toys so I don't know much about the tv shows. I saw the original as a kid and I have watched some episodes of it again as an adult.
From the point of view of the art style it is imo extremely similar to Shadow of the beast, and this is the kind of look I love the most.
When they change it almost always it becomes ugly

[B]

Ive read one where guns and the such were brought in and were absolutely powerless against the magic and average level fighters.

All depends on what the author wants. Read it if you like it. Don't if you don't like it. The people who would judge you either way are not worth caring about.

[steven1mac]

I don't like to mix guns and swords, unless it is similar to how it happened in real life, that being said, if the author goes out of the way to equalize it so that it doesn't undo the balance of the world, I have no problem with it.

[Fake]

Black Tech Internet Cafe - Cultivators playing video games and developing modern weapons

[sleeps]

I can just make a steampunk scifi fantasy with weapon from 3000 and call it a day. If it doesn't work then its the reader's reading comprehension issue, not mine

[friend robocat]

something like the Forgotten Ruins books would be perfect for an action rpg - modern US Rangers vs Fantasy world with orks and elves

[jaydciv]

Originally posted by bingo:

I can just make a steampunk scifi fantasy with weapon from 3000 and call it a day. If it doesn't work then its the reader's reading comprehension issue, not mine :TheRedCrownEvil:

The closet thing to that "Shinju no Nectar", only thing a villain had an advanced weapon and it was showed once a few chapters before the ending of an arc.

[HansCent]

Originally posted by jaydciv:

I read some manga and watch some anime in wich some characthers are showing the use of guns or modern weapons in a fantasy environment or in a fantasy world. Some people gets upset and others not, in some stories they explain it and others not, but probably it was introduced by someone else
What is your toughts about this kind of thing. I can give examples if someone asks.

Have you seen the anime "Gate" (or it's literature versions) ?

Synopsis: a portal magically appears in Japan, an invasion of Orcs, Wyvern Riders and Beastmen attacks civilians ... Japan military pushes them back and they go into the other world with rifles, tanks and warplanes. That is basically the first episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5-hthd39wM&t=105s

skip to 1:45 ~ everyone* should get the reference

without spoiling anything else, it is satisfying to watch medieval bullies getting killed with modern weapons

[tscougar-1]

if you are upset about writers choice then stop reading it😲

[Crashed]

On the flip side you have Final Fantasy games set in a modern world and the protagonists weild swords (though in FFXV one of the characters does weild a pistol and assault rifle which are nerfed for balance, and when controlling him, grenades and an RPG (the explodey kind)).

[jaydciv]

Originally posted by HansCent:

Originally posted by jaydciv:

I read some manga and watch some anime in wich some characthers are showing the use of guns or modern weapons in a fantasy environment or in a fantasy world. Some people gets upset and others not, in some stories they explain it and others not, but probably it was introduced by someone else
What is your toughts about this kind of thing. I can give examples if someone asks.

Have you seen the anime "Gate" (or it's literature versions) ?

Synopsis: a portal magically appears in Japan, an invasion of Orcs, Wyvern Riders and Beastmen attacks civilians ... Japan military pushes them back and they go into the other world with rifles, tanks and warplanes. That is basically the first episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5-hthd39wM&t=105s

skip to 1:45 ~ everyone* should get the reference

without spoiling anything else, it is satisfying to watch medieval bullies getting killed with modern weapons

Yes i saw it, but i prefer the manga, it has more battles, more blood, a little gory and some characters doing snu snu. I wonder if the second season of the light novel will be translated. (second season of light novel its battle with ships and submarines, expect pirates)

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

I'm actually listening to a book series on tape called The Destroyermen. It's about an American four stacker destroyer during world War II that gets transported to an alternate Earth.

Now the four stackers were pretty much already outdated by the time they were deployed during Worlds War II. They were actually in the process of being destroyed by a Japanese fleet off of Burma when they pass through a strange storm, and end up in a world where it was still pretty much boats on the high seas running under sail. They're most advanced weapon are catapults with fire bombs and crossbows.

Now a fully crewed destroyer with both naval men and Marines, with their 10-in guns and modern weapons help them carve out a new niche for themselves in between some friendly cat people and they're only natural predator who best resembles a 5 ft tall gremlin made with extra teeth.

It's actually a very good book series, and the guy reading the book has managed to really capture the characters, with voice tones and accents.

One of the really cool aspects is the fact that it turns out that another four stacker also made the jump, as well as a Japanese battleship called the Umagi.

They become incredibly creative and industrious in the books. They begin helping the cat people understand the nature of warfare, the importance of the technology that they can give them, and the stuff that they teach them how to build and operate. I mean they didn't start producing machine guns or anything. But they develop 10-in brass cannons. Which completely changes war in the high seas. Technology versus shear ravenous evil numbers.