Your skills are worthless...

[kilésengati]

If you don't have at least a vocational degree, in Germany, no matter how skilled you are, they are worthless. Even if for your skill-set, there exists no degree yet. And if there is a degree for that, good luck finding an affordable way of getting it. Once you finally got that degree, expect the same companies complaining about a shortage on specialised workers, only looking to pay insultingly low wages to the most perfects applicants - ideally the ones with a university degree.
There is no shortage of specialised labour in Europe, only a shortage in specialised slaves!

What are your thoughts on the labour market in your country?

[ZZZZZ]

OP is wrong, in germany u can do tons of jobs without even finishing school

[Apollo702]

Eréndira eredeti hozzászólása:

You’re right.

You ever entertain the thought of being an expat? As in, really looking into it? Turns out, I’m as worthless to the rest of the world as I am here.

Oh but I don’t care. See, this is when people have to really dig deep and think for themselves. Are you living in accordance with other’s values or your own? Do you take as honest a look at things or do you feel more comfortable having the world do that for you, on your behalf? Do you continue playing the game or veer off?

Where is here? I never knew what country you are in.

And you also piss me off! I am doing a bunch of digital projects tonight and I still have that **** Scooby Doo theme stuck in my head!

Arrrrrrggg!!

[Holografix]

expat = immigrant

but it's like code to avoid getting smeared by the xenophobic social stigma. It's first world nomenclature, a term of art, or jargon.

[Apollo702]

Eréndira eredeti hozzászólása:

Apollo702 eredeti hozzászólása:

Where is here? I never knew what country you are in.

And you also piss me off! I am doing a bunch of digital projects tonight and I still have that **** Scooby Doo theme stuck in my head!

Arrrrrrggg!!

I come from the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs flow.

I can only imagine living that full time! Wow!

[GUA MENG THI(我問天）]

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

GUA MENG THI(我问天） eredeti hozzászólása:

Ahhh, in Indonesia, vocational degree is also a very important thing to mention. Thats why im a very competitive guy on school. I heard that in Europe there is always a company that control the market of a type of things. So there is no small company there(i heard that from my english teacher who born in UK). Unlike most of the company in Europe, in Indonesia, there are a lot of company for a type of things. Some people prefer a different brand with the other people. So, starting a business here doesnt as hard as starting business in Europe.

My dad who is only finish junior high school, he can open a business and feed our family.

So i think education is important, but have a smart brain is more important

That is not true.

Yes, there are big corporations that have their names slapped on virtually every product and are often those that offer exceptional wages and benefits. But the backbone of most "developed" European countries' economies are formed by small and mid-size companies (Mittelstand), a fair amount of which contribute highly specialised products or services to corporations and the state as part of the support sector. Mid-size companies are often unionised as well, offering similar benefits to the corporation.
Problem being smaller companies adopting a habit of pretending to be like larger players without paying-up to their self-image and larger companies often being located in urban areas, which have become virtually unreachable for rural populations and leads to an increasing precariat within the urban centres.

And starting a business on the right foot has become next to impossible here.

Yes, We live in a different country that resulting a different point of view.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

If you don't have at least a vocational degree, in Germany, no matter how skilled you are, they are worthless. Even if for your skill-set, there exists no degree yet. And if there is a degree for that, good luck finding an affordable way of getting it. Once you finally got that degree, expect the same companies complaining about a shortage on specialised workers, only looking to pay insultingly low wages to the most perfects applicants - ideally the ones with a university degree.
There is no shortage of specialised labour in Europe, only a shortage in specialised slaves!

What are your thoughts on the labour market in your country?

i remember awhile back some ♥♥♥♥ about nikes being dirt cheap in Germany but Adidas or converse being expensive and vice versa in the USA vs Germany.

Also how this guy was a "bad egg" in elementary and from then he got the job of window washer. Came to the USA became a certified nurse or doctor but in Germany he was only qualified to ever wash windows even with his certification.



Tbh German vocational job placements sound like hell.

Imo let them die off. Eventually they'll realize that ♥♥♥♥ won't work long term unless they got an over abundance of people working and they trail behind on the list of world's strongest economies and become one of the world's worst. Especially since economies and shops still haven't recovered 100% post covid

[Ulfrinn]

Degrees in general are becoming worthless for a lot of things. There will always be a need for something like a doctor, or a lawyer, but a lot of the ones people do get end up having no practical real world value. Those are usually the same ones who demand others pay for their loans too.

There seems to be no shortage of people with those degrees believing they are worth more than they actually are, and demanding to be paid what they think it's worth.

[Ganger]

Ulfrinn eredeti hozzászólása:

Degrees in general are becoming worthless for a lot of things. There will always be a need for something like a doctor, or a lawyer, but a lot of the ones people do get end up having no practical real world value. Those are usually the same ones who demand others pay for their loans too.

There seems to be no shortage of people with those degrees believing they are worth more than they actually are, and demanding to be paid what they think it's worth.

I agree with you, but my only question is were does gender studies fit in, is this a worthless degree or worth while in the real world.

And we will always need trades people such as electrician, plumbers and joiners etc. These's types of trades are worth gold.

[Pocahawtness]

The biggest mistake I made was believing my parents that qualifications matter. They open doors but they don't help you once the door is open. What you really need in life is social skills.

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

Pirate☠️Pocah eredeti hozzászólása:

The biggest mistake I made was believing my parents that qualifications matter. They open doors but they don't help you once the door is open. What you really need in life is social skills.

Good universities give you networking, ♥♥♥♥ one give you papers.

[agu]

Learning a trade is usually more practical than getting a traditionally unnecessary degree, most people don't really need a gender studies doctor or too many psychologists, but pretty much every one of us need electricians and plumbers. They will NEVER run out of work.

Pirate☠️Pocah eredeti hozzászólása:

The biggest mistake I made was believing my parents that qualifications matter. They open doors but they don't help you once the door is open. What you really need in life is social skills.

This is so real.

[Ulfrinn]

Ganger eredeti hozzászólása:

Ulfrinn eredeti hozzászólása:

Degrees in general are becoming worthless for a lot of things. There will always be a need for something like a doctor, or a lawyer, but a lot of the ones people do get end up having no practical real world value. Those are usually the same ones who demand others pay for their loans too.

There seems to be no shortage of people with those degrees believing they are worth more than they actually are, and demanding to be paid what they think it's worth.

I agree with you, but my only question is were does gender studies fit in, is this a worthless degree or worth while in the real world.

And we will always need trades people such as electrician, plumbers and joiners etc. These's types of trades are worth gold.

Can you think of one job outside of teaching it to other people, that are going to require that for a degree? No. That means someone with that degree is qualified to serve drinks at Starbucks and that's probably where they'll end up, complaining about debt, and demanding student loan forgiveness.

I knew a girl who was going for a degree in art history. I asked her to think real hard how many places hire for that degree, how many jobs are actually available, and how many others in her class are going for it too, before realizing virtually none of them have a chance at making a career out of it.

That's the problem with the education system is kids are pushed into it out of high school, many go not even knowing what they want to do as a career, shouldn't a goal be important? Then we have politicians write laws to force banks to give loans to people who can't pay them back and understanding funding was now guaranteed, the people running those colleges jacked up the costs of tuition, books, supplies, and force more nonsensical elective classes be taken so they can hire more people to teach them. It's all a joke.

[swillfly]

For companies peeple are worthless/disposable sprockets.

Skills take a backseat to bling perception.

[Ganger]

Ulfrinn eredeti hozzászólása:

Can you think of one job outside of teaching it to other people, that are going to require that for a degree? No. That means someone with that degree is qualified to serve drinks at Starbucks and that's probably where they'll end up, complaining about debt, and demanding student loan forgiveness.

I knew a girl who was going for a degree in art history. I asked her to think real hard how many places hire for that degree, how many jobs are actually available, and how many others in her class are going for it too, before realizing virtually none of them have a chance at making a career out of it.

That's the problem with the education system is kids are pushed into it out of high school, many go not even knowing what they want to do as a career, shouldn't a goal be important? Then we have politicians write laws to force banks to give loans to people who can't pay them back and understanding funding was now guaranteed, the people running those colleges jacked up the costs of tuition, books, supplies, and force more nonsensical elective classes be taken so they can hire more people to teach them. It's all a joke.

My question wasn't really a question as per say just a saying but reading it back, it does sound like a question, my bad. But looking more into this, many employers who see gender studies on a CV have said they wouldn't hire them in fear of that person causing problems at work, upsetting other staff with their views and demanding changes and in fear of being sued by them at some point.

[Ulfrinn]

Ganger eredeti hozzászólása:

Ulfrinn eredeti hozzászólása:

Can you think of one job outside of teaching it to other people, that are going to require that for a degree? No. That means someone with that degree is qualified to serve drinks at Starbucks and that's probably where they'll end up, complaining about debt, and demanding student loan forgiveness.

I knew a girl who was going for a degree in art history. I asked her to think real hard how many places hire for that degree, how many jobs are actually available, and how many others in her class are going for it too, before realizing virtually none of them have a chance at making a career out of it.

That's the problem with the education system is kids are pushed into it out of high school, many go not even knowing what they want to do as a career, shouldn't a goal be important? Then we have politicians write laws to force banks to give loans to people who can't pay them back and understanding funding was now guaranteed, the people running those colleges jacked up the costs of tuition, books, supplies, and force more nonsensical elective classes be taken so they can hire more people to teach them. It's all a joke.

My question wasn't really a question as per say just a saying but reading it back, it does sound like a question, my bad. But looking more into this, many employers who see gender studies on a CV have said they wouldn't hire them in fear of that person causing problems at work, upsetting other staff with their views and demanding changes and in fear of being sued by them at some point.

Oh yeah, there's definitely a lot of employers who don't want to deal with that drama many of them bring. Often people with some of those, and other useless degrees have a sense of entitlement about them where they demand they be paid more than they are actually worth despite having degrees which have no relevance to the job description. Would you rather hire someone with a masters degree in art history, or the 16 year old looking for some extra money and work experience when the opening is for a cashier?