Would the 'Legend of Zelda' series have had a lot more respect prior to 'BOTW' if it had kept to it's pre WW style of always having better graphics/gameplay?

[Heatblizzard]

While WW was good in a lot of subtle ways (such as eye movement/water animation,etc) the gameplay was too simplified and mostly too short since a lot of dungeons were cut instead they have the 'Triforce Hunt' to artificially lengthen the game. Imagine if Misko's EX Treasure Hunt was a core part of the game NEEDED to beat Calamity Ganon instead of just a fun quirky EX Treasure Hunt when your bored and can quit that quest at any time with or without actually acquiring the said armor pieces.

Now prior to WW all the way back to the original LOZ minus Link's Awakening that 2D Side Scrolling one (which did have good features of it's own and introduced a certain ego to Link) nobody really liked the games including the GBC ones all progressed in both graphics and actual gameplay rather then forced gimmicks.

Each game was very different then the other yet still you knew it was a 'Legend of Zelda' and something about it was going to be great and you didn't have to worry about much if any drawbacks to the game minus Link's short sword swipes in ALLTP which made me gave up halfway thru. :(

Sadly this is not so for WW and SS which if they didn't have the official Zelda name attached and you went to play it 'blind' you'd likely wonder if it was part of the main franchise and what the hell you just played!

Especially Skyward Sword (SS) without it having a name and all you see is a vomit mix of cell shaded and realism that doesn't blend in quite well except when your on the surface and mostly for 'distant' shots. If SS was released on STEAM and had NOTHING to do with Zelda but everything else remained the same minus any Zelda related names or characters I bet it would've been a constant Steam Sale game having 'Flash' sales all the freaking time and a lot of 'mixed' reviews type game. You know THOSE games.

[Heatblizzard]

PS. I forgot to mention Zelda Twilight Princess tried to steer back to that former direction but tried too hard to appeal to the 'Gross' gamers that wanted nothing but gore and blood forgetting that's not what there is all to a game and tried too hard to be like the 'dark' fantasy movies that mostly focused on how gross we can make our creatures be.

Nintendo tried too hard to make an 'adult' game without it being actually adult which would've ruined what made the LOZ great in the first place as being easily accessible to all ages but enough in-game lore to keep people busy wanting to see what's next without feeling like they are being forced a gimmick or dead end.

As it was TP was also a vomit mess trying to appeal to the wrong crowd while forgetting the core Zelda group at the same time so it was essentially a 'gimmick' game and constant cut scenes and the graphics were all too 'brown' in most areas like they went cheap or something. NOTHING like the E3 reveal trailer where it showed a lot of horse battles and distant mountains.

Imagine if OOT had constant cut scenes ruining otherwise peaceful moments in between the boss fights forcing you to do timed actions just for the sakes of it. Imagine Ingo's Ranch Mission being a constant game theme in disguise where you have to escape his ranch in a certain way over and over again. You get very frustrated players.

[LQIM]

What is ww

[Heatblizzard]

Początkowo opublikowane przez LQIM:

What is ww

Wind Waker. Despite the cell shading there is a lot of details with in it such as when Link comes out of the water he is dripping wet for a while before drying off and his head slowly lowers into the water as he loses stamina while swimming. BTW Link's voice is actually a women which is why he 'screams like a girl' when being catapulted.

[Heatblizzard]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mattmoo:

What era would you consider yourself most familiar with, generally?

To some degree I did it consider to be popular before too... Oh I see.

Yeah it probably would have I suppose, they basically change the game director & all.

If you look at E3's in the past on YT back to the 90s archives you can see the amount of vibe and energy that just doesn't exist today since there was actual competition we don't have anymore that were not 'broken' indie or EA (Early Access) games if you want better graphics and features instead of the next 2D platformer or FPS clone. Sadly a lot of Indie Games are pretty much AAA companies with worse graphics and without the budget team to really make it better and AAA companies are all bankers that don't even play the games and sip wine on their yachts at Polonysia.

[Heatblizzard]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mattmoo:

What era would you consider yourself most familiar with, generally?

To some degree I did it consider to be popular before too... Oh I see.

Yeah it probably would have I suppose, they basically change the game director & all.

The MM to WW era and again from BOTW onwards to TOTK.

BOTW has such a huge energy vibe that is lacking in the sequel that just got released. TOTK is essentially a never ending shrine puzzle outdoors based on non spoiler previews.

Nintendo pretty much let go of their 'PR team' since Covid and it's mostly third party people that are doing the advertising it seems. Every game had their own direct but Tears of the Kingdom and it turns out the 10 mint presentation was actually done last minute as well.

[LQIM]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Heatblizzard:

Początkowo opublikowane przez LQIM:

What is ww

Wind Waker. Despite the cell shading there is a lot of details with in it such as when Link comes out of the water he is dripping wet for a while before drying off and his head slowly lowers into the water as he loses stamina while swimming. BTW Link's voice is actually a women which is why he 'screams like a girl' when being catapulted.

Oh I completely forgot about that game

[Zefar]

https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Zelda_games

Twilight Princess sold nearly twice as much as Wind Waker did.
Your idea of what people want is not what the people actually want.


Personally Twilight Princess is the best Zelda game I've played so far. Have not played the last two.

[radziue]

jest g bro

[Ulfrinn]

I liked Windwaker, and Twilight Princess. I don't like the series turning into a boring, largely empty Far Cry clone with tower climbs and nonsensical scavenger hunts. Zelda as a franchise is dead to me, and has been since BotW. But, Nintendo has enough new, casual gamers who know of nothing else who think it's the greatest ever, they'll buy Zelda games going forward, and dictate the direction of the franchise. I'll just focus my attention towards indie developers that care about the quality of the product more than the profit margin.

[Dracoco OwO]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Zefar:

https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Zelda_games

Twilight Princess sold nearly twice as much as Wind Waker did.
Your idea of what people want is not what the people actually want.


Personally Twilight Princess is the best Zelda game I've played so far. Have not played the last two.

Twillight Princess is absolutely goated i don't see why peoples have issues with it.

[gugnihr]

The only Zelda game with good graphics is Twilight Princess, any other Zelda game (except Majora Mask 3D remake, but I don't count it because it is just a remake, and the original is too ugly) has absolutely ugly art style, they look bad, they look stupid, they look inconsistent and unimmersive. N64 Zelda games (like most other N64 games in general) also aged terribly, but anyway wqith the exception of Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask 3DS remake the art style of Zelda games have always been ugly, they have always looked terribly bad.

[Crazy Tiger]

Game franchises get respect?

[Dracoco OwO]

Początkowo opublikowane przez gugnihr:

The only Zelda game with good graphics is Twilight Princess, any other Zelda game (except Majora Mask 3D remake, but I don't count it because it is just a remake, and the original is too ugly) has absolutely ugly art style, they look bad, they look stupid, they look inconsistent and unimmersive. N64 Zelda games (like most other N64 games in general) also aged terribly, but anyway wqith the exception of Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask 3DS remake the art style of Zelda games have always been ugly, they have always looked terribly bad.

That certainly is an opinion.

[ZooMas]

WHO WANTS TO PLAY FAR CRY 6 TOGETHER???

[Good Night Owl]

Prior to Wind Waker, I only ever played Link To The Past. I felt that Wind Waker definitely captured what a Zelda game is in 3D. It's biggest criticism was that it was cartoony, and even that ended up getting adored.

Breath of The Wild on the other hand... Feels like it's from an entirely different series to me, but most would probably disagree with me.