Do you believe humanity as a whole is good or bad?

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Personally, I was a believer that humanity were mostly good with a smaller percentage that weren't. I later hated specific people for mistreating me who then got more people to mistreat me who I also hated for mistreating me, but still tolerated, but mostly I just didn't like being mistreated and didn't inherently hate everyone or humanity as a whole. It appeared like I disliked a lot of people but there were so many people disrespecting me, being mean, cruel, and rude, that it took too much energy to hate all of them, so I didn't. Some were milder than others, and some people I liked and it made me sad they were doing the same. Overall I felt very isolated and just didn't like being around others. 2/3rds of my life I very much liked people.

I said I hated someone for abusing me then they went online and posted about their own personal misanthropy pretty much making themselves the centre of how I feel. Do you think I wouldn't recognize something similiar to something I myself said? It's not like trying to argue for what someone else says when they don't admit they did it. They brought up their own personal issues similiar to what I mentioned after I mentioned to bully me. They had a tendency of making everything about themsellves but ironically people saw me that way instead.

I've always felt humans were flawed but I used to try to be tolerant of them anyways. I still manage at times but it takes a huge toll on my mental health, especially when their way of dealing denies me healthy resolution to conflict.

Also, I was the knight. They also mentioned how they were pitied after they avoided me because I had been miserable and pitying myself over personal drama we were both involved in. Which I saw as a personal attack. They were very careful and calculated.

So what do you think? Is humanity good or bad?

[76561198356019466]

GOOD

I wouldn't continue to fight for it if it wasn't.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Difficult to say. My good-bad-dar is off the charts. :/

[Starfarer]

It’s neither good or bad, just really chaotic.

[Dracoco OwO]

Bad, i might be biased but bad.

[【ボス B o s s】]

Humanity let this abomination happen.
https://youtu.be/vLEs8iOFkAU
WHAT DO YOU THINK?!

[Grendalcat]

Both. There are examples of great kindness, and examples of great cruelty, throughout history.

[kingjames488]

I also often fall victim to this falacy... sometimes one simply needs to remember;

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

people are neither good nor bad, simply most people are stupid, selfish, greedy; and therefore easily manipulated.

[L1qu1dator]

There's nothing to believe here, it's bad overall, that's a fact.

[Triple G]

There is no good and bad. It´s just in our heads.

Also if it´s about personal experience - we´ll never know all humans. And i guess for everyone there are "good" and "bad" people out there. Some tend to attract a certain kind of people though. I usually attract the mental cases. But those are good people, too. Or can be...

And in general:
Imho individually most are "good", but in groups they´re usually - not so good, but we have to distinguish between work and private life there, as on work it´s easy to work together as all (should have) the same goal, and it´s primarily about that, while i dislike all "break rooms" (?).

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Bad

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kingjames488 の投稿を引用：

I also often fall victim to this falacy... sometimes one simply needs to remember;

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Yeah, this. Most people aren't 'bad' or 'good.' But most people are stupid.

One look at the state of the world, and the fact that the average person doesn't have a problem with it, makes that abundantly clear.

[kingjames488]

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kingjames488 の投稿を引用：

I also often fall victim to this falacy... sometimes one simply needs to remember;

Yeah, this. Most people aren't 'bad' or 'good.' But most people are stupid.

One look at the state of the world, and the fact that the average person doesn't have a problem with it, makes that abundantly clear.

ya, I added some comments after the fact to shamelessly reflect this realitty... people are as people are... hard to tell what someone is all about before they put it on the line.

like gaben and his crippling snickers addiction compelling him to capitulate to googles whims!!

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Triple G の投稿を引用：

There is no good and bad. It´s just in our heads.

Also if it´s about personal experience - we´ll never know all humans. And i guess for everyone there are "good" and "bad" people out there. Some tend to attract a certain kind of people though. I usually attract the mental cases. But those are good people, too. Or can be...

And in general:
Imho individually most are "good", but in groups they´re usually - not so good, but we have to distinguish between work and private life there, as on work it´s easy to work together as all (should have) the same goal, and it´s primarily about that, while i dislike all "break rooms" (?).

Personal identity is usually overwritten by the crowd. Sometimes its easier to assimilate than to detach, and not everyone is willing to isolate themselves or take personal hits for the benefit of someone else. There are studies on it that show even people with empathy can become sucked into this cycle.

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OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle の投稿を引用：

kingjames488 の投稿を引用：

I also often fall victim to this falacy... sometimes one simply needs to remember;

Yeah, this. Most people aren't 'bad' or 'good.' But most people are stupid.

One look at the state of the world, and the fact that the average person doesn't have a problem with it, makes that abundantly clear.

Yeah, this is a common mentality that a lot of people have, that people are stupid. I don't know how many times I've heard and seen the same trope of people working at stores complaining about stupid bosses or customers. Its not new or specific to any individual since most people tend to agree with.

I personally disagreed and it made me feel stupid to be someone so vapid that I couldn't find issue with anyone. Because the issue couldn't be everyone else, right? Obviously its easier to believe its the individual than a larger number of people, even when the evidence points to the contrary people still don't believe it.

[Rio]

Bad, even when people use logic to think outside their own corruption to create a just government. People will slowly corrupt it like a poison to favor their personal desires and power fantasies.

If people were actually naturally good "real communism" would work.

We are in a hellish world where things kill to survive, either directly or like trees, starve things out under them. And many things that seem good are self serving on the society level, because if they did not, we as a species wouldn't exist.

People say they care about so many injustices, but if they are inconvienced they often will drop it. Like almost no one drops using electronics because how colbalt is mined. And people allow mega evil corporations to win out like apple, microsoft, monosato, blackstone, etc

Much of the reason kindness exists is to stop constant infighting, because we evolved to need to fight other tribes and we are most united when we have an outside enemy to demonize. We also have kindness because it makes stronger people, if we are weak not want to harm us.

Society and its laws rein in human nature, because it is wicked and brutal, murderous. And schools raise us, tame us, to fight against it. To walk in line, to not talk out of turn, to not hit one another.

We don't want to live back when roaming tribes of people constantly fought and killed one another and traded each other like property.

Love of family, is love of your gene pool. Which exists beyond you, for we cease to be one day.