Muta goes full-2A (SomeOrdinaryGamers)

[kilésengati]

Muta discusses assaults on IRL streamers and means of self-defence.

https://youtu.be/2EX65JFMLKY

"I've always been a big advocate of self-defence."
"Generally, if a country allows you to conceal-carry a gun, you should absolutely carry one with you."
"You know what also doesn't take 'no' for an answer? 9x19 mm."
"If you can legally protect yourself through concealed firearms, you probably should."
"You should find any [legal] way to defend yourself."

Hear, hear.

Many tech/current web affairs channels I watch have similar opinions on liberty-related topics, but out of all of them, I didn't expected Muta to advocate for 2A so openly. The mainstream sponsors don't really like it.

What do you think about this?

Please keep it civil. :)

[Goose]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Goose:

i think the average gun owner is an absolute untrained idiot who isn't going to properly defend themselves or anyone else.

no, you do not have the same training as an ex-mil or off-duty police officer.
good guy with a gun does not work.

Just say you hate guns and gun owners. It's easier.

nah i don't hate guns at all.

you're right about the latter, though, because the gun community is absolutely INSUFFERABLE.

[Unexpected]

mutahar has always been like this especially if you watch his older videos you will see a trend of defending personal liberties like online anonymity

[Phantasmagoria]

I have no need for Guns or Firearms...I am quite Powerful enough on my own 💪

[kilésengati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Goose:

i think the average gun owner is an absolute untrained idiot who isn't going to properly defend themselves or anyone else.

no, you do not have the same training as an ex-mil or off-duty police officer.
good guy with a gun does not work.

though in personal self-defense situations? sure, M A Y B E.

The issue isn't gun ownership, but gun culture - or rather the lack thereof.

[Inset European rant about the U.S. lacking culture] ;P

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Goose:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SlowMango:

Pepper spray has blowback.

"the germans unleashing their spicy air when suddenly the wind changes:"

As a German, that's what we've learned as a people.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Psycho:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von kilésengati:

The chance of pepperspray backfiring is way higher than that of a firearm and doesn't always deter the attacker. Obviously, you can't mindlessly use a firearm either. Since it was such a close encounter, I think it would've ended in a struggle, like that incident with that female off-duty police officer. But it would have with peperspray or other less-lethal arms as well. The best protection she had was the publicity from the stream, I guess, but that's something average people don't have and shouldn't strive for as a society.
And it's always a good idea to have legal insurance.

Nah I believe having pepper spray would have protected her more than her stream did. I mean her stream didn't stop the assault, pepper spray would've had a very strong chance to. And if no one was around he could have continued the assault as long as he wanted to, while the stream could do nothing to stop it

The streaming community can handle the aftermath of the assault, and get the guy caught... but pepper spray can stop the assault while it's taking place

Sure, if she would've had a protective bubble around here that cannot be intruded by an attacker. I mean, even if she had a firearm, she first would have needed to aim it. 21-foot-rule and all. Same goes for pepper spray, whether it be in a can or pistol.
In that situation mainly the publicity saved her from worse.
Though, flashing a firearm, long knife or something other potentially deadly and impressive could have had a deterring effect beforehand. However, I doubt anything other than a firearm would've worked on a man. Firearms are amazing equalisers.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Unexpected:

mutahar has always been like this especially if you watch his older videos you will see a trend of defending personal liberties like online anonymity

Yeah, even defending liberties we can't talk about here. But I didn't expected him to be this upfront on such a topic like this, that rarely ever tangent the digital space.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Phantasmagoria:

I have no need for Guns or Firearms...I am quite Powerful enough on my own 💪

So you have guns of your own. 💪💪💪

[Volfogg]

I have barely any opinions about firearms. Myself I wouldn't be able to aim straight or handle recoil. I can't even aim well in FPS games.

[kilésengati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Volfogg:

I have barely any opinions about firearms. Myself I wouldn't be able to aim straight or handle recoil. I can't even aim well in FPS games.

How about bows, javelins and other pointy-throwy things?

[Volfogg]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von kilésengati:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Volfogg:

I have barely any opinions about firearms. Myself I wouldn't be able to aim straight or handle recoil. I can't even aim well in FPS games.

How about bows, javelins and other pointy-throwy things?

You're joking I hope. I have arms like matchsticks along with twitchy fingers that only know keyboard and mouse. Can't open a jar too.