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Dobke 2023년 9월 1일 오전 11시 49분
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How long do you think until woke-ism in media is finally dead?
How long until most game makers and hollywood realize that everything woke they put out end up flopping in revenue and sales? Not only that but review scores too.

I honestly thought it would've ended sooner, but we still getting more woke garbage released and I hope in 2024 it'll die down or maybe they turn it down a notch.
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Dom 2023년 9월 2일 오전 11시 52분 
Snow ☯님이 먼저 게시:
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
We were talking about respecting pronouns. I don't see how that is in conflict with rights for minorities and fair treatment.

The people who are against those pronouns and respecting them are likely to be individuals who belong to the majority in this context, and they refuse to see outside their own bubble that there are people who don't fit into the traditional categories.

The "you ain't black" thing was obviously a joke. Biden was in a wacky hiphop podcast program and you know it, stop spreading false narratives.

I think the legislators have no say in how sports are organized, and it's quite scary when GOP threatens to take control over sports. I mean that's literal government control and interference. But the base is fine with that government control because it's "government control they agree with".
No, it's not a joke. The woke/left have hijacked history and anyone who does't agree with them or doesn't toe the line gets cast out.

Larry Elder is a man who dedicated his entire life to politics and helping out the black community and yet because he ran for governor in California against Gavin Newsom, the black guy in the race is labeled as a white supremacists.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians

And look at how fierce the left attack Clarence Thomas, the only reason they take aim with him is because of his skin color. There are other conservative judges.

And I noticed you conveniently left out the jailing of Harrison Floyd, "Blacks for Trump" no, bail for him.


As for respecting pronouns...lets talk about how the culturally insensitive movement of the woke agenda is trying to re-write minority languages and do-away with their gendered language. LatinX anyone?

Sorry but the woke doesn't own the latin culture, and it doesn't get to re-write these languages because it finds them offensive. I'm not even latin background, but I like their culture and I don't want to see it poisoned by woke.

Liberals, when they were true liberals and not fascists that they are today used to have a saying "I don't believe the topic you're supporting, but I'll defend your right to say it"
Look at the context, look at the whole podcast to see the environment. And it's clear that Biden said it in a jokingly manner. There's no question about it. I love how the GOP side always says "look at the whole context" whenever something is said about their people, and then they NEVER live up to this standard they've set themselves when it comes to them calling out dems.

And heh.. you also talk about "woke" as if it's some person. The "woke" is coming. The "woke" is attacking latin culture. Boo!

But there's no "woke" - it's not a person. Heck, it's not even a group. It's nothing. No one aside from those who follow fearmongering fake news even knows who or what you're talking about. And that's why your message, ultimately, is a gigantic nothing-burger.

There is a right to say. No one has threatened it, it has not been taken away from anyone. Heck, look at this forum. Look at the discourse. It happens all the time.
Tiberius 2023년 9월 2일 오전 11시 55분 
Dobke님이 먼저 게시:
JustSomeLego님이 먼저 게시:
How long until people stop whining over things when they clearly aren't the target demographic

Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, were never catered to the lefts ideology, there's a reason why such shows have fallen from grace, because now they are forcing ideals into people that have loved such works of art for years. Woke ideology satisfies modern policial (mostly left-wing ideologies.) and are now being inserted into our media that for the most part have always been neutral. They're excluding a huge demographic of people and are now paying the price.

Your response makes you come across as a complete clueless ignorant brat.

Tbh star wars tv shows have been amazing so far
Chocolate Pie Kitten 2023년 9월 2일 오전 11시 57분 
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Does the destruction of statues in the US give a red flag, though?

if you are fan of confederate slavers statues it can be a red flag.
Dom 2023년 9월 2일 오전 11시 59분 
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Look at the context, look at the whole podcast to see the environment. And it's clear that Biden said it in a jokingly manner. There's no question about it. I love how the GOP side always says "look at the whole context" whenever something is said about their people, and then they NEVER live up to this standard they've set themselves when it comes to them calling out dems.

And heh.. you also talk about "woke" as if it's some person. The "woke" is coming. The "woke" is attacking latin culture. Boo!

But there's no "woke" - it's not a person. Heck, it's not even a group. It's nothing. No one aside from those who follow fearmongering fake news even knows who or what you're talking about. And that's why your message, ultimately, is a gigantic nothing-burger.

There is a right to say. No one has threatened it, it has not been taken away from anyone. Heck, look at this forum. Look at the discourse. It happens all the time.
Does the destruction of statues in the US give a red flag, though?
Hmm, statues represent different things for different people. Some people think they may symbolize something evil (depends what it is), and some people think that they all have historic value regardless of the underlying message.

I understand both sides in this.
Scurrybt 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 01분 
Chocolate Pie Kitten님이 먼저 게시:
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Does the destruction of statues in the US give a red flag, though?

if you are fan of confederate slavers statues it can be a red flag.
Although I will never support that ideology, I do think destroying history is not necessarily a good thing.
SMIFFY 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 03분 
When sponsor companies come out and say they don't care what's put on TV so long as it gets lots of viewers for their ads.
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Scurrybt 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 07분 
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Does the destruction of statues in the US give a red flag, though?
Hmm, statues represent different things for different people. Some people think they may symbolize something evil (depends what it is), and some people think that they all have historic value regardless of the underlying message.

I understand both sides in this.
Another example would be destroying oil paintings with things like tomatoe sauce. Art is a universal language that represents that thoughts and ideals of individuals and groups. Another example of history that should never be destroyed due to an agenda, no matter it’s good intentions.
Chocolate Pie Kitten 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 08분 
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Does the destruction of statues in the US give a red flag, though?
Hmm, statues represent different things for different people. Some people think they may symbolize something evil (depends what it is), and some people think that they all have historic value regardless of the underlying message.

I understand both sides in this.

you in the same time understand thoses who ancestors were slaves and thoses that were owning them ?

I have difficulty to understand which values you can have in the statue of a slaver else owning

another human as a good.
Violeta 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 09분 
"This movement doesn't give rights that are equal, it awards privileges and hurts groups based on a whim."

Its not whim as much as its, "Equality" . Pushing groups that do too well down. And lifting up groups that do too poorly. Although there are exclusions.

Like if a group would fill up a college. They might say, you have to get more of other groups.

Or if one group causes a lot more crime than others. They might find ways to skew the statistics so they look equal.
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Jeff 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 09분 
Dobke님이 먼저 게시:
How long until most game makers and hollywood realize that everything woke they put out end up flopping in revenue and sales? Not only that but review scores too.

I honestly thought it would've ended sooner, but we still getting more woke garbage released and I hope in 2024 it'll die down or maybe they turn it down a notch.

Lolol

Why would you ever think it's going to die? Diversity is an inevitability, so your "wokeism" (really just another way to say "fair") will never end.
Jeff 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 11분 
Dobke님이 먼저 게시:
How long until most game makers and hollywood realize that everything woke they put out end up flopping in revenue and sales? Not only that but review scores too.

I honestly thought it would've ended sooner, but we still getting more woke garbage released and I hope in 2024 it'll die down or maybe they turn it down a notch.

Lolol

Why would you ever think it's going to die? Diversity is an inevitability, so your so-called "woke-ism" (really just another way to say "fairness") will never end.

White folks' time in the sun simply ran out because they're on the verge of being outnumbered.

So no, game designers will never stop being "woke". Ever. As a matter of fact, it's going to increase as non-white people flood the business. Non-white game designers = more "woke-ism".

Get used to it or it's going to be a long and frustrating life for you.
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Dom 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 13분 
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Hmm, statues represent different things for different people. Some people think they may symbolize something evil (depends what it is), and some people think that they all have historic value regardless of the underlying message.

I understand both sides in this.
Another example would be destroying oil paintings with things like tomatoe sauce. Art is a universal language that represents that thoughts and ideals of individuals and groups. Another example of history that should never be destroyed due to an agenda, no matter it’s good intentions.
Yes, but that is also why truly valuable paintings in museums for instance are behind bulletproof glass because there was vandalism even before the "stop the oil" movement. My guess is this is what you may be referring to since it's been a lot in the news lately.

Chocolate Pie Kitten님이 먼저 게시:
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Hmm, statues represent different things for different people. Some people think they may symbolize something evil (depends what it is), and some people think that they all have historic value regardless of the underlying message.

I understand both sides in this.

you in the same time understand thoses who ancestors were slaves and thoses that were owning them ?

I have difficulty to understand which values you can have in the statue of a slaver else owning

another human as a good.
I understand that there are reminders when it comes to our histories. It's another question if they should be located at the city center for example. Many countries have, instead of destroying statues, moved them to places such as museums where they may be seen as more appropriate to be present. I think it may not always be the most ideal option to destroy them. There are different options.
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Chocolate Pie Kitten 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 16분 
Medias surfing on or washing the main social idelogy is not new, there have been green washing

and before conservative washing, and trend. Conservative trend in medias and censure lasting

for a few decades.

As much as i despise the woke washing in it extremism it will never reach the height of

the conservative and mysogynist trend in previous decades, just look at Mae West fights with

censorship .
Chocolate Pie Kitten 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 20분 
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Another example would be destroying oil paintings with things like tomatoe sauce. Art is a universal language that represents that thoughts and ideals of individuals and groups. Another example of history that should never be destroyed due to an agenda, no matter it’s good intentions.
Yes, but that is also why truly valuable paintings in museums for instance are behind bulletproof glass because there was vandalism even before the "stop the oil" movement. My guess is this is what you may be referring to since it's been a lot in the news lately.

Chocolate Pie Kitten님이 먼저 게시:

you in the same time understand thoses who ancestors were slaves and thoses that were owning them ?

I have difficulty to understand which values you can have in the statue of a slaver else owning

another human as a good.
I understand that there are reminders when it comes to our histories. It's another question if they should be located at the city center for example. Many countries have, instead of destroying statues, moved them to places such as museums where they may be seen as more appropriate to be present. I think it may not always be the most ideal option to destroy them. There are different options.


Chocolate Pie Kitten님이 먼저 게시:
Medias surfing on or washing the main social idelogy is not new, there have been green washing

and before conservative washing, and trend. Conservative trend in medias and censure lasting

for a few decades.

As much as i despise the woke washing in it extremism it will never reach the height of

the conservative and mysogynist trend in previous decades, just look at Mae West fights with

censorship .
Dom님이 먼저 게시:
Scurrybt님이 먼저 게시:
Another example would be destroying oil paintings with things like tomatoe sauce. Art is a universal language that represents that thoughts and ideals of individuals and groups. Another example of history that should never be destroyed due to an agenda, no matter it’s good intentions.
Yes, but that is also why truly valuable paintings in museums for instance are behind bulletproof glass because there was vandalism even before the "stop the oil" movement. My guess is this is what you may be referring to since it's been a lot in the news lately.

Chocolate Pie Kitten님이 먼저 게시:

you in the same time understand thoses who ancestors were slaves and thoses that were owning them ?

I have difficulty to understand which values you can have in the statue of a slaver else owning

another human as a good.
I understand that there are reminders when it comes to our histories. It's another question if they should be located at the city center for example. Many countries have, instead of destroying statues, moved them to places such as museums where they may be seen as more appropriate to be present. I think it may not always be the most ideal option to destroy them. There are different options.

On what is the destruction i agree with you Dom, but thoses do not condom the simple destruction of history statues they condamn it because they share values with the statues and this value is slavery and white supremacism
Violeta 2023년 9월 2일 오후 12시 22분 
Oh don't think I don't hate conservative censoring. I'm very aware this year they've been bringing back real ID for some websites in some states. One of those articles mentioned a states R govener passing it and went directly on vacation. Coward! Didn't want to face the backlash.

Can't believe its been like 2000 years or something. And we still want a book from pre-science days to run our modern world.
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