How long do you think until woke-ism in media is finally dead?

[Dobke]

How long until most game makers and hollywood realize that everything woke they put out end up flopping in revenue and sales? Not only that but review scores too.

I honestly thought it would've ended sooner, but we still getting more woke garbage released and I hope in 2024 it'll die down or maybe they turn it down a notch.

[yankees992007]

Автор сообщения: bisder🎗

If you want "woke" to go away, it is simple.

Treat people with the basic level of respect and dignity they deserve no matter what they think or look like. You don't have to like them or agree with them, just stand next to them.

When that happens all of the theatrical value life has to offer will be apparent, and the gaslighting wont have any ground to stand on because people who judge each other on that level won't exist. "Extremists" and "Terrorists" won't exist at all because everyone will all be peaceful. It starts with you.

Try to imagine, if what i have is good and i offer it to you, it remains good if you don't take it
if what i have is good and i offer it to you, you can take it and then make it bad
when you attempt to give it back to me, it is no longer the same thing i had in my hand originally

such is the problem with the spoken/written language. what is perceived then becomes your reality, not what is originally intended.

woke is something like that also, to a lot of people it is good and it means something good, to others it means something entirely different- which is ok, but it stresses the important point to understand language and how it is used, people can easily be pigeonholed because of something they say when the entire meaning it was given is taken away and given new meaning, then given back, sorta rambling but w/e

Nope, best way to do it is not to endorse that sort of behavior.

The moment one supports it , validated the behavior.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: yankees992007

I have and Old star trek has none of what your describe.

And how old is your 'old star trek'?

[Sigma957]

November 5.

[Auraplayer (Stir Crazy)]

Автор сообщения: bisder🎗

Автор сообщения: Auraplayer (Just Pain)

As Cole Porter shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxCjpEc66Dw

Cancel culture?

Any shock they should try to stem, instead of landing on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock would land on them.

[Not Big Surprise]

Автор сообщения: yankees992007

Those who been around since the early 70's or even 60's would understand that original star trek and star wars were never woke.

BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Duck Twacy]

Автор сообщения: yankees992007

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Quite wrong.

This idea that woke is everywhere is largely crap. Sure you get some weird films and so on that do take it rather stupidly. I personally find it distasteful how Disney make films where there may be say, half a dozen main actors and it always has to follow the formula of a token asian, a token black person or two, a token hispanic, and at least one token gay person.

It's entirely off and inoriganic.

But you should perhaps go and WATCH old sci fi including old start rek as there are examples of gay people, and such messages exactly the same.

I have and Old star trek has none of what your describe. Discovery on the other hand, you see gay guys kissing and off the screen having sex. 2 gay guys in bed on screen, the viewer can understand what that means.

Nice try.

The original Star Wars was warning and effort by Lucas to address a possible threat from someone who had subverted the political system for their own anti-social purposes.

Initially the first film was cast with an all white cast because that's what was available in terms of actors. Later on other social groups were included to show that such a threat applied to everyone.

Star Trek in the 1960s was a police and health show at its core, and had a multi-national and ethnic cast showing how mankind had put their differences in the past to cooperate to fight crime and disease.

Does it work? I don't know. I think someone with hard core racist views isn't going have their mind changed by a TV show. Someone who's on the fence might.

Today's super hero garbage tends to be made for pre-teens and younger, so whatever message is there tends to be obvious and annoying.

[Duck Twacy]

I'll also add that there was really only one Star Trek episode that looked at race relations, and that was "Let this be your Last Battlefield", where two men were white and black on the opposite sides of their bodies. The episode looks at the grudges and rhetoric of what was fueling the race riots at the time; the Watts race riots being the prime example back then.

Another 3rd season episode Lt. Uhura comments on her ethnicity to an alien made to look like Abraham Lincoln. But the show itself was not about race nor race issues.

[Not Big Surprise]

Автор сообщения: Duck Twacy

I'll also add that there was really only one Star Trek episode that looked at race relations, and that was "Let this be your Last Battlefield", where two men were white and black on the opposite sides of their bodies. The episode looks at the grudges and rhetoric of what was fueling the race riots at the time; the Watts race riots being the prime example back then.

Another 3rd season episode Lt. Uhura comments on her ethnicity to an alien made to look like Abraham Lincoln. But the show itself was not about race nor race issues.

well of course it wasn't

but that doesn't mean the topic wasn't explored in multiple ways

[Duck Twacy]

To my knowledge race relations were never explored save for the two instances I mentioned.

To the original posters topic; it's my opinion that movies work for a certain kind of audience or viewer, and they carry any positive messages with them into society that they get.

But films can't solve the world's problems. If they could, then all you would need to do is to make a film about whatever was bothering you or society and the problem would be solved. But that's not how films work.

They're tools for inspiration, not instruction.

[craigsters]

https://youtu.be/F_5dP_83O7o?si=-auMEoR9W6IfNDFf
The Joker - Why so Serious?


I look forward to the mockness era we need to be funny again and have fun and not take each other so seriously

[yankees992007]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: yankees992007

I have and Old star trek has none of what your describe.

And how old is your 'old star trek'?

The originals, Star trek: Enterprise, voyager, Deep space 9, TNG. Those were great series. Today's star trek, no thanks.

[livinggg]

Автор сообщения: craigsters

The Joker - Why so Serious?

I look forward to the mockness era we need to be funny again and have fun and not take each other so seriously

Yea, I would be ok with that. These days people make being a member of the steam femboys group a reason to gaslight you, stalk you, harass you, threaten you or maybe worse who knows. They do all this while they take the high road, saying see, I am better than you. I am holier than thou...but now i must be evil. People aren't doing what their scripture actually says, but demanding that others do it instead of them. Religion has done more to corrupt moral judgement than otherwise. Why so serious? Exactly!

[yankees992007]

Автор сообщения: Duck Twacy

I'll also add that there was really only one Star Trek episode that looked at race relations, and that was "Let this be your Last Battlefield", where two men were white and black on the opposite sides of their bodies. The episode looks at the grudges and rhetoric of what was fueling the race riots at the time; the Watts race riots being the prime example back then.

Another 3rd season episode Lt. Uhura comments on her ethnicity to an alien made to look like Abraham Lincoln. But the show itself was not about race nor race issues.

I have seen that episode. It about war. Their world was destroyed by war. The message is about settling peaceful differences. Which is what Star trek Federation was about. Peaceful coexistence among other aliens.

As for anything else, clearly you miss the point of the show.

[yankees992007]

Автор сообщения: bisder🎗

Автор сообщения: craigsters

The Joker - Why so Serious?

I look forward to the mockness era we need to be funny again and have fun and not take each other so seriously

Yea, I would be ok with that. These days people make being a member of the steam femboys group a reason to gaslight you, stalk you, harass you, threaten you or maybe worse who knows. They do all this while they take the high road, saying see, I am better than you. I am holier than thou...but now i must be evil. People aren't doing what their scripture actually says, but demanding that others do it instead of them. Religion has done more to corrupt moral judgement than otherwise. Why so serious? Exactly!

Whoa, you're all over the place. If I understand your comment, you are saying religion is the cause?

Absolutely not. God did warned humans about evil. Also he gave humans a choice, either do good or do evil things. Each of us make the choice. Religion has nothing to do with our choices.

Religion also can be a foundation to laid laws that governor goodness over evil. For example, "you shall not commit murder" Our laws were set up based on that Religion belief that one should not commit murder.

Moral code that we all are born with knows the difference between right and wrong. It evilness that want humans do their bidding.

The moral code also laid foundation that immorality is wrong hence is why human understood that such actions are wrong. The evilness want to remove all the moral code and what means to be human.

[livinggg]

Автор сообщения: yankees992007

Автор сообщения: bisder🎗

Yea, I would be ok with that. These days people make being a member of the steam femboys group a reason to gaslight you, stalk you, harass you, threaten you or maybe worse who knows. They do all this while they take the high road, saying see, I am better than you. I am holier than thou...but now i must be evil. People aren't doing what their scripture actually says, but demanding that others do it instead of them. Religion has done more to corrupt moral judgement than otherwise. Why so serious? Exactly!

Whoa, you're all over the place. If I understand your comment, you are saying religion is the cause?

Absolutely not. God did warned humans about evil. Also he gave humans a choice, either do good or do evil things. Each of us make the choice. Religion has nothing to do with our choices.

Religion also can be a foundation to laid laws that governor goodness over evil. For example, "you shall not commit murder" Our laws were set up based on that Religion belief that one should not commit murder.

Moral code that we all are born with knows the difference between right and wrong. It evilness that want humans do their bidding.

The moral code also laid foundation that immorality is wrong hence is why human understood that such actions are wrong. The evilness want to remove all the moral code and what means to be human.

You are gaslighting the victim. How is being a member of a group on a giant video game community any of anyone's concern? I don't see how this translates to "evil" in your delusional paranoid state of confusion. So, because I have joined a group representing ideas you don't like, that is indicative of somehow me doing something that would have your god burn me in hell for eternity? Get real man