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Hanzo The Rain 21. aug. 2023 kl. 6:56
Why do people commit crimes in 2023?
I can understand 50 years ago with the lack of opportunities, economic hardship, social inequality, needing to steal to survive and all but it's mind boggling to see all sort of criminals exist in 2023 when they’re all given the opportunity to go to school and work?
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Triple G 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:38 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Fish:
Time machines would change it for sure then they can fix all their mistakes.
Crime is only a mistake, when someone gets caught, and is actually punished with something, no? So You mean these mistakes? Or perhaps, when someone forgot to bribe the right people.

Else the one who commits the crime wins, and those who don´t do them are the ones making mistakes - if they complain about their situation, which could perhaps be fixed with committing crimes.
Fishie 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:41 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Fish:
Time machines would change it for sure then they can fix all their mistakes.
Crime is only a mistake, when someone gets caught, and is actually punished with something, no? So You mean these mistakes? Or perhaps, when someone forgot to bribe the right people.

Else the one who commits the crime wins, and those who don´t do them are the ones making mistakes - if they complain about their situation, which could perhaps be fixed with committing crimes.

Humans make mistakes all the time. No human hasn't made a mistake some worse then others but it still just a mistake.

Anyone who is willing to fix that mistake easily can with a time machine then they won't be a criminal because the crime never happens.

Seems like your serotyping a bit. Not all criminals no matter what the felony is, still commit crimes, it was a one time mistake.
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76561199422410181 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:43 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
If we´re talking about the first world - there are officially 12.8 million unemployed people in the EU. And if the numbers work like in Germany - the unofficial number of people without work is around double, or triple the amount.


80% of Syrian "refugees" are unemployed in Germany.
Azza ☠ 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:44 
Lack of education and skills.

You rarely ever see a smart person steal or commit a crime unless it's tax evasion from the rich.

Humans play out scenarios in their head, even while they are dreaming. Looking for the easiest solution. While that easy solution might not be the best, it's what they consider as an option. It's freewill to follow those options, but the more stuck you are, the more that option temporary seems like a good idea at the time. It's merely a bandaid to the real root cause.
Triple G 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:47 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Fish:
Humans make mistakes all the time. No human hasn't made a mistake some worse then others but it still just a mistake.

Anyone who is willing to fix that mistake easily can with a time machine then they won't be a criminal because the crime never happens.

Seems like your serotyping a bit. Not all criminals no matter what the felony is, still commit crimes, it was a one time mistake.
But what is a mistake and what not is only a subjective thing, no? I thought if it is about crimes - it´s about laws. But if acting according to the law - or not doing so is a mistake - is for each one to decide.

By definition You only commit a crime if You do something against the law. But not every crime is a mistake by the people committing them. Let´s take a drug dealer, who buys and sells things like any other business. The only thing which makes it a crime is that drugs are against certain laws - for the sake of it.
Triple G 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:49 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rivers:
80% of Syrian "refugees" are unemployed in Germany.
Oh - how many of the Syrian people have their education acknowledged - and how many don´t have a work permission? Usually any foreign education - if it´s not from western countries is denied here and counts nothing.

Not to say that around 10 million people depend on welfare in Germany - which is around the published number for the whole EU.
Magma Dragoon 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:54 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Sleepy:
lack of opportunities, economic hardship, social inequality, needing to steal to survive
Nobody ever commits crimes for these reasons. People commit crime because they expect to get away with it and it's easier than working and they have no shame or decency.
Plaid 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Magma Dragoon:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Sleepy:
lack of opportunities, economic hardship, social inequality, needing to steal to survive
Nobody ever commits crimes for these reasons. People commit crime because they expect to get away with it and it's easier than working and they have no shame or decency.
"nobody ever"

boy, what an argument.
76561199422410181 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
Oh - how many of the people have their education acknowledged - and how many don´t have a work permission? Usually any foreign education - if it´s not from western countries is denied here and counts nothing.

Not to say that around 10 million people depend on welfare in Germany - which is around the published number for the whole EU.
If 80% of a population cannot work in a country no matter the reasoning, then they are not improving or keeping it at the same quality it was before they came.
Sidst redigeret af Rivers; 21. aug. 2023 kl. 14:57
Triple G 21. aug. 2023 kl. 15:04 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rivers:
If 80% of a population cannot work in a country no matter the reasoning, then they are not improving or keeping it at the same quality it was before they came.
No matter the reasoning? If they´re denied work by choice - it´s somehow obsolete to bring that argument. And the next question would have been what additional bureaucratic steps a possible employer would have to do to hire a Syrian refugee instead of a German worker.

Also work doesn´t matter, as they spend most of their money in Germany to secure and create German jobs.

And quality is also about German bureaucracy, because they would need to make education comparable, as there are rules and guidelines for everything. I´m unsure as what some American High school education counts. Probably as nothing, or as the lowest education we have. And You need a certain education to further train on a job - to then work in a qualified job, which requires a qualification. Here it´s not about skills, but about certificates.
Triple G 21. aug. 2023 kl. 15:20 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Jesus:
I see you aren't very good at pattern recognition.
What? How would You, Jesus, explain when You´re born, but Your mother didn´t have had sex with Your father - and there would only be vague descriptions of some - let´s say holy ghost, who did it well, but also kind of forcefully without asking Your mother?

Or do You mean that Jesus is usually known for denying people refuge - because he hates refugees? Or that he would choose certain random examples which blame a certain group of people - instead of just talking about certain crimes?

What pattern? I only recognized the typical right wing pattern.
76561199422410181 21. aug. 2023 kl. 15:22 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rivers:
If 80% of a population cannot work in a country no matter the reasoning, then they are not improving or keeping it at the same quality it was before they came.
No matter the reasoning? If they´re denied work by choice - it´s somehow obsolete to bring that argument. And the next question would have been what additional bureaucratic steps a possible employer would have to do to hire a Syrian refugee instead of a German worker.

Also work doesn´t matter, as they spend most of their money in Germany to secure and create German jobs.

And quality is also about German bureaucracy, because they would need to make education comparable, as there are rules and guidelines for everything. I´m unsure as what some American High school education counts. Probably as nothing, or as the lowest education we have. And You need a certain education to further train on a job - to then work in a qualified job, which requires a qualification. Here it´s not about skills, but about certificates.
If they were denied work after applying to many places its because they don't have any helpful skills that would improve the employer or the country.
Devsman 21. aug. 2023 kl. 15:24 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Fish:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Devsman:
Because they don't have time machines?

Time machines would change it for sure then they can fix all their mistakes.
Sure. They're also currently the only way to commit crime in some other year.
Triple G 21. aug. 2023 kl. 15:27 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Rivers:
If they were denied work after applying to many places its because they don't have any helpful skills that would improve the employer or the country.
What? how many appliances did they write? If You didn´t answer my first question if they have their education acknowledged and whether they have a work permission or not. If they don´t have a work permission, but work - both - the employer and the employee would commit a crime.

And what are helpful skills to improve a situation in a country. The majority of citizens and most of all any of the politicians don´t have these skills. Most investors don´t have them neither...
76561199422410181 21. aug. 2023 kl. 15:35 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
What? how many appliances did they write?
Probably none because its too much work.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
If You didn´t answer my first question if they have their education acknowledged and whether they have a work permission or not. If they don´t have a work permission, but work - both - the employer and the employee would commit a crime.
I was talking about refugees. If a persons application for asylum has been accepted, i.e. they have been recognised as a refugee, or an individual entitled to asylum or subsidiary protection, they may work as an employee or a self-employed person without any restrictions. That means they have the same rights as a German citizen in the job market. You seem to be confusing me for comparing Syrians who are not refugees and cannot legally work. I have only been talking about refugees who can work legally the same as a German.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Triple G:
The majority of citizens and most of all any of the politicians don´t have these skills. Most investors don´t have them neither...
Citizens do, they are what keep the country afloat. Government as you said though does not, they destroy what citizens create.
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