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xbox 360 store closing
i just got an email from xbox telling me that the xbox 360 store will shut down on july 29th 2024.

"Starting on July 29, 2024, the Microsoft store on Xbox 360 and on (link to random Microsoft website) will no longer be supporting purchases. this includes games, trials, add-ons, avatar items, apps, gamerpics, game trailers, and videos. it also includes purchases like gamertag changes on Xbox 360, Xbox live gold subscriptions, in-games purchases, and Movies & TV."

we only have 1 year until this happens, this is very sad.

EDIT: you will still be able to play games on 360, you just cant buy anymore.
最近の変更はJellyfishが行いました; 2023年8月19日 15時12分
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Monument of TRethehedgehog の投稿を引用:
Fish is right about PS3 store

I made a post on Reddit about this, and one guy was surprised about there not being enough backlash like the PS3 store

Looking at the marketplace now, it just isn’t how it used to be. Hell Microsoft doesn’t even sell the OG halo games. There are also games that you can’t buy anymore, due to licenses or some other reason.

Sony probably still sells all their exclusives on the PS3 store and it without a doubt draws in more money.

Most of the 360 games I care about are backwards compatible anyways, and I don’t even have a 360 because my brother sold it to my cousins instead of my parents.

But the PS3 store is only accessible using a PS3 so I can’t fact check

The store used to be online too, but they shut down the online website of the Playstation Store that is PS3-related.

You won't be able to find PS3 avatars or PS3 games, but you can find PS4 or PS5 games.

Here is the link to the Playstation Store, but they removed PS3 avatars and games from it. 

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/pages/latest?gclid=Cj0KCQjw84anBhCtARIsAISI-xfHh5MDiigUz5aH3oYFnQZHhIfAxD2awk_6KxRlrfGt0rQq5VlEuEgaAkHcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

For some reason, they removed avatars and haven't made an option to buy new avatars for PS5. So you only have a select few to choose from

Some Xbox games that are backwards compatible don't have online capabilities anymore, so make sure to search on YouTube or something before buying a game that had online abilities back in the day because the developers don't want to pay to bring the servers back up.
最近の変更はFishieが行いました; 2023年8月20日 9時32分
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
Did W98 users get to keep their games when Steam stopped working? XP? Vista? Do you think 7/8 users will?
Yes, they did keep them. After all, the accounts didn't magically get deleted.

RRW359 の投稿を引用:
If they can't give you the games you bought when Valve is this powerful
Except that the OS thing has nothing to do with Valve being "powerful" (they're really are not that powerful, but people like to exaggerate a lot on these forums), but simply with how licensing works and enables. Valve works perfectly within the boundaries of licensing just as other parties do as well, but people seem to love to ignore that.
They only got to keep their games if they kept buying new games.

As for how licensing works, with the OS issue what's stopping them from removing the requirement to use Steam that wouldn't be stopping them if they were to shut down? If they can't do one and there are only rumors of them being able to do the other then it's starting to look like they can't do either, and what motive would publishers have to give Valve that ability when they are dying and have nothing to offer in return?
Mathius の投稿を引用:
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
I don't mind batteries myself either, my 360 and Wii controllers still use them. But what controllers do you use that you can't charge when the console is off or you need to wait?

I wouldn't say you have to wait, per say, but the PS3's controller won't charge if the console is off. It has not standby mode. You have to plug a cable in to use it if the controller is dead and you want to play.

Maybe there was a charging station you could buy, I dunno. I still have mine (as a matter of fact, the games are hanging on the wall above this monitor, along with my 360 games and both consoles are still hooked up to my tv), but I'm not exactly buying new equipment for it.
Ah ok, never owned a PS3, so no idea.

I always plug in a cable in my controllers when they're low as a socket is next to the couch.

RRW359 の投稿を引用:
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
Yes, they did keep them. After all, the accounts didn't magically get deleted.


Except that the OS thing has nothing to do with Valve being "powerful" (they're really are not that powerful, but people like to exaggerate a lot on these forums), but simply with how licensing works and enables. Valve works perfectly within the boundaries of licensing just as other parties do as well, but people seem to love to ignore that.
They only got to keep their games if they kept buying new games.

As for how licensing works, with the OS issue what's stopping them from removing the requirement to use Steam that wouldn't be stopping them if they were to shut down? If they can't do one and there are only rumors of them being able to do the other then it's starting to look like they can't do either, and what motive would publishers have to give Valve that ability when they are dying and have nothing to offer in return?
That's nonsense, nobody needed to keep buying games to keep the rest. Even if people don't have an appropriate OS to use Steam on it, they still keep their account and games on them. So no, they did not lose the games.

And as I said, the way licensing works enables it all. Nothing to do with Valve being "powerful", all to do with them being within their rights. Which is also why I've always said that licensing has to change before we can go back to "owning our games".

What is stopping Valve from providing it? Self interests, obviously.
Pierce Dalton の投稿を引用:
Tbh I'm surprised it still exists. All things come to an end, good or bad ones.

It happens just like Dell drops alien ware r13, r12, r14. So you can only buy them from resellers but resellers also known as scalpers some of them don't include the gpu. It just they think no one wants the old product anymore or costs them money when they could work on newer stuff with more money available. I don't think anyone really knows the reason why some companies do this but if it works, it works. Who knows what them big heads are thinking.

Mathius の投稿を引用:
Fish の投稿を引用:
A lot of consumers still buy and play the PS3, unlike the 360.

Again you throw out a supposed "fact" like you speak for everyone.

? I don't speak for anyone lmao, if you can't handle facts that not my problem.
最近の変更はFishieが行いました; 2023年8月20日 10時28分
Monument of TRethehedgehog の投稿を引用:
They should bring back buyable or unlockable gamer pics for the newer Xbox consoles tho

I think that was only if the developers wanted too but now it always been free pics. At least you can upload a custom picture as your profile pic. I been using the art I made as profile picture for xbox.

I think they took it away because not everyone buys them, and even now, if you try suggesting it, some people right away refuse it.

But Xbox is sketchy; they trick people into buying monthly or weekly memberships when you can still buy 12-month gold from retailers that Microsoft still sells to, like Amazon, but doesn't show it on the consoles. Because they want you to have a game pass. But if you call xbox they will admit it ): they might of should of not tell some employees.
最近の変更はFishieが行いました; 2023年8月20日 12時38分
Quick, buy Very Hard mode DLC for Sonic 06 before it disappears forever!
最近の変更はFishieが行いました; 2023年8月20日 9時50分
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
Mathius の投稿を引用:

I wouldn't say you have to wait, per say, but the PS3's controller won't charge if the console is off. It has not standby mode. You have to plug a cable in to use it if the controller is dead and you want to play.

Maybe there was a charging station you could buy, I dunno. I still have mine (as a matter of fact, the games are hanging on the wall above this monitor, along with my 360 games and both consoles are still hooked up to my tv), but I'm not exactly buying new equipment for it.
Ah ok, never owned a PS3, so no idea.

I always plug in a cable in my controllers when they're low as a socket is next to the couch.

RRW359 の投稿を引用:
They only got to keep their games if they kept buying new games.

As for how licensing works, with the OS issue what's stopping them from removing the requirement to use Steam that wouldn't be stopping them if they were to shut down? If they can't do one and there are only rumors of them being able to do the other then it's starting to look like they can't do either, and what motive would publishers have to give Valve that ability when they are dying and have nothing to offer in return?
That's nonsense, nobody needed to keep buying games to keep the rest. Even if people don't have an appropriate OS to use Steam on it, they still keep their account and games on them. So no, they did not lose the games.

And as I said, the way licensing works enables it all. Nothing to do with Valve being "powerful", all to do with them being within their rights. Which is also why I've always said that licensing has to change before we can go back to "owning our games".

What is stopping Valve from providing it? Self interests, obviously.
What's the point of having an account and games if you can't use them unless you purchase a new OS, and sometimes a new PC and a new OS in order to use them? And what happens if Steam drops support for an Old OS while a dev stops patching the game to run on newer OS's?
Fishie 2023年8月20日 10時19分 
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
Ah ok, never owned a PS3, so no idea.

I always plug in a cable in my controllers when they're low as a socket is next to the couch.


That's nonsense, nobody needed to keep buying games to keep the rest. Even if people don't have an appropriate OS to use Steam on it, they still keep their account and games on them. So no, they did not lose the games.

And as I said, the way licensing works enables it all. Nothing to do with Valve being "powerful", all to do with them being within their rights. Which is also why I've always said that licensing has to change before we can go back to "owning our games".

What is stopping Valve from providing it? Self interests, obviously.
What's the point of having an account and games if you can't use them unless you purchase a new OS, and sometimes a new PC and a new OS in order to use them? And what happens if Steam drops support for an Old OS while a dev stops patching the game to run on newer OS's?

I hope this isn't true, but PC gamers should expect that type of thing since OS is required, but if an old game that has Windows 7 is new, I'm sure they would still support it, but only on the newer version if the game hasn't done a full release, or they would update the game to the newer version, or the developers would still support the old version, but I don't see why they would when they won't be making money from it unless they just want to keep their fans happy, or unless someone finds a way to buy the game from them for Windows 7 or in game buy options or something.


Runescape has been out for a long time, and they updated it. I haven't really touched that game in forever. So can't say for sure.
最近の変更はFishieが行いました; 2023年8月20日 10時40分
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
Ah ok, never owned a PS3, so no idea.

I always plug in a cable in my controllers when they're low as a socket is next to the couch.


That's nonsense, nobody needed to keep buying games to keep the rest. Even if people don't have an appropriate OS to use Steam on it, they still keep their account and games on them. So no, they did not lose the games.

And as I said, the way licensing works enables it all. Nothing to do with Valve being "powerful", all to do with them being within their rights. Which is also why I've always said that licensing has to change before we can go back to "owning our games".

What is stopping Valve from providing it? Self interests, obviously.
What's the point of having an account and games if you can't use them unless you purchase a new OS, and sometimes a new PC and a new OS in order to use them? And what happens if Steam drops support for an Old OS while a dev stops patching the game to run on newer OS's?
For the first: the account remains until the user gets a system that fits the requirements for the launcher.

For the second: Nothing special. Games generally work on a newer OS (there are only a few games that don't work on Win 10 in my large collection of games since the 80s). And if not, some workarounds or tweaks will get them up and running.

So, nothing special in the world of PC gaming since forever.
Fishie 2023年8月20日 10時40分 
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
What's the point of having an account and games if you can't use them unless you purchase a new OS, and sometimes a new PC and a new OS in order to use them? And what happens if Steam drops support for an Old OS while a dev stops patching the game to run on newer OS's?
For the first: the account remains until the user gets a system that fits the requirements for the launcher.

For the second: Nothing special. Games generally work on a newer OS (there are only a few games that don't work on Win 10 in my large collection of games since the 80s). And if not, some workarounds or tweaks will get them up and running.

So, nothing special in the world of PC gaming since forever.

Like cnc firestorm I still play that game on windows 10.
The contingency plan for this client is obvuiosly to download all DRM free games and place them on a drive.

Hard part is quickly figuring out which games are DRM free.
RRW359 2023年8月20日 11時12分 
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
What's the point of having an account and games if you can't use them unless you purchase a new OS, and sometimes a new PC and a new OS in order to use them? And what happens if Steam drops support for an Old OS while a dev stops patching the game to run on newer OS's?
For the first: the account remains until the user gets a system that fits the requirements for the launcher.

For the second: Nothing special. Games generally work on a newer OS (there are only a few games that don't work on Win 10 in my large collection of games since the 80s). And if not, some workarounds or tweaks will get them up and running.

So, nothing special in the world of PC gaming since forever.
IF. The account remains active until IF the user is financially able to get a system that works with the launcher, not to mention the time investment. If your life and schedule is extremely tight then here's another thing you have to worry about if you want to keep yourself entertained the same way you always have after work, if you have an open schedule and not enough money then you're either going to have to cough some up or find another hobby.

Not being able to use your purchases on the hardware you bought hasn't been a thing forever with PC gaming, if you bought a DOS game you didn't need to wait for someone to patch it to work with Windows if you just kept the old hardware.
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
For the first: the account remains until the user gets a system that fits the requirements for the launcher.

For the second: Nothing special. Games generally work on a newer OS (there are only a few games that don't work on Win 10 in my large collection of games since the 80s). And if not, some workarounds or tweaks will get them up and running.

So, nothing special in the world of PC gaming since forever.
IF. The account remains active until IF the user is financially able to get a system that works with the launcher, not to mention the time investment. If your life and schedule is extremely tight then here's another thing you have to worry about if you want to keep yourself entertained the same way you always have after work, if you have an open schedule and not enough money then you're either going to have to cough some up or find another hobby.

Not being able to use your purchases on the hardware you bought hasn't been a thing forever with PC gaming, if you bought a DOS game you didn't need to wait for someone to patch it to work with Windows if you just kept the old hardware.
Accounts don't get deleted when Valve drops support for an old OS, so people are not losing games. Your initial claim that people have to keep buying games to access their older bought games is completely false.

If people don't have time for their hobby, it does not matter whether the games sit in a digital account or a box in the attic. If people can't afford their hobby, that's their own issue.

You can dream up all the unnecessary fluff you want, it doesn't change reality.
最近の変更はCrazy Tigerが行いました; 2023年8月20日 11時21分
RRW359 2023年8月20日 11時39分 
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
RRW359 の投稿を引用:
IF. The account remains active until IF the user is financially able to get a system that works with the launcher, not to mention the time investment. If your life and schedule is extremely tight then here's another thing you have to worry about if you want to keep yourself entertained the same way you always have after work, if you have an open schedule and not enough money then you're either going to have to cough some up or find another hobby.

Not being able to use your purchases on the hardware you bought hasn't been a thing forever with PC gaming, if you bought a DOS game you didn't need to wait for someone to patch it to work with Windows if you just kept the old hardware.
Accounts don't get deleted when Valve drops support for an old OS, so people are not losing games. Your initial claim that people have to keep buying games to access their older bought games is completely false.

If people don't have time for their hobby, it does not matter whether the games sit in a digital account or a box in the attic. If people can't afford their hobby, that's their own issue.

You can dream up all the unnecessary fluff you want, it doesn't change reality.
Okay I did say the wrong thing in the earlier post but there's a difference between not being able to afford a hobby by not being able to buy new stuff for the hobby and not being able to afford a hobby because someone takes your stuff away from you until you buy a different way to do that hobby.
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