What happend to Disney?

[Arvaos]

What happend to the quality of Disney in recent years?

Marvel is no longer selling out cinemas and no longer can Hollywood rely on big names like Star Wars and Indiana Jones to make the big bucks.

So the question is what happend and how can they become the top dog again?

[Ulfrinn]

kingjames488 の投稿を引用：

it's been a long time coming actually...

didn't you notice disney hasn't produced anything of note for a long time?

like what was the last popular IP they came up with?
most of the big new things I can think of have been pixar... cars, minions, w.e else the kids are into these days probably...

disney has always been about "family values" like traditional gender roles and probably 99.99% of their movies revolve around some sort of variant on the "guy gets the girl" story line...

personally I got so tired of hearing about gender debates and such nonsence I didn't need it shoved down my throat by disney too.

maybe people just became much more aware of what the actual message of disney films was...

can't wait for the live action song of the south remake though... if there was ever a movie to remake for social justice reasons that would be the one.

Well, Disney has rarely actually been original. Most their stories are public domain stuff. A lot of Brothers Grimm, Hans Christian Anderson, and old west European fairy tales from the 1700s and even earlier. Plus some even older stories like Aladdin and Mulan.

Fast forward today and it's all IPs they just straight up bought, having no creative talent put into the product themselves, only looking to monetize on it. This includes Star Wars, superhero crap, etc.

[Caw Caw Caw]

Disney should offer R rated content like Cartoon Network does Adult Swim.

[kingjames488]

Fumo Bnnuy n Frends の投稿を引用：

frozen was about the last new IP they made in a while.
but i think even then it was a joint collab with disney AND mostly pixar

right, I'd forgotten frozen.
wasn't really something I was interested in personally, but I heard it was good.

if you look into disney tho, their past is very much pushing the "american agenda" in some form or another... be it WW2 propaganda, racism, or stereotypical christian "family values"...

disney has lost their place in the world and are grabbing at IPs like star wars to try to diversify and stay relevant.

everything they're doing right now is screaming "we don't know what we're doing!!"

[Calamity-Sanity]

Lack of Innovation & originality, Dip in quality, taking sides in Politics, hiring/firing people based off of Politics/Skin Color/Gender/Fame instead of Merit, putting money & agendas before creating good art, etc.

Disney doesn't really care about diversity or representation when behind closed doors they blatantly censor the scenes out containing the most "Diversity" when selling their movies to other Countries. They receive hefty payments from Mega-Corporations with lots of shares in their stocks (like Black Rock) to push the agendas which ruins the quality of their entertainment.

I wonder what Valve would become if the company was public, doing that now is almost like selling your company to the Devil, since there are rich people out there (Possibly Governments) That will then use your successful business to try to push their own ideologies.

[Arvaos]

CEO Bob Iger himself has raised the prospect that the company is too big. And some on Wall Street are advocating for a break up.

The company's parks business is slowing. Its linear TV division is declining, and so are subscribers to its flagship streaming service Disney+. Not to mention the media giant seems to have lagged competitors at the box office.

Iger admitted the current distribution model is "definitely broken," explaining Disney's linear TV assets, which include broadcast network ABC and cable channels FX, Freeform, and National Geographic, "may not be core" to its strategy any longer.

[kingjames488]

should have been a hint when robin williams called out disney for screwing him over tho... and they feuded for like a decade until disney payed him enough to do another movie.

[Phirestar]

Well for starters, maybe they should stop hiring people who go onto social media and directly attack and insult fans of the work they’re helping produce.

It’s really not a good idea to “bite the hand that feeds”, as they say.

[Your_White_Knight]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Arvaos の投稿を引用：

Marvel is no longer selling out cinemas

We've had FIFTEEN YEARS of superhero movies and TV Shows. Even ice cream gets old after having that much of it.

I've had twice that many years of ice cream and still not tired of it... no... that's a lie.

The problem isn't the ice cream... it's the sour cream passed off as ice cream nobody wants...

[Paratech2008]

Disney has no clue what makes a good movie or what kind of entertainment the masses want.

[Fishie]

Paratech2008 の投稿を引用：

Disney has no clue what makes a good movie or what kind of entertainment the masses want.

They must do since they remade alot of great films.

[Your_White_Knight]

Paratech2008 の投稿を引用：

Disney has no clue what makes a good movie or what kind of entertainment the masses want.

Well more to point.... Dismaly abandoned entertainment to make propaganda...

And the masses want entertainment... the minority think the masses won't notice, or, won't notice until it's too late.

But we did... and we're not paying for propaganda...

[Yzal]

Money

[Your_White_Knight]

Dismaly pretty much did it to themselves...

They sank their own entertainment into going woke... and then tried to back up the woke by waking the sleeping giant of Florida Law by attacking the powers that be.. and now it's all coming apart...

When they sought to get attention they didn't count on getting the ~wrong~ attention.

3 hours ago:
https://youtu.be/bq4jC04N9C0

[Jackie Daytona]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Arvaos の投稿を引用：

Marvel is no longer selling out cinemas

We've had FIFTEEN YEARS of superhero movies and TV Shows. Even ice cream gets old after having that much of it.

What was "superhero genre" in the 1990's?

• The Tick
  
• X-Men: The Animated Series
  
• Batman: The Animated Series
  
• Spiderman: The Animated Series
  
• Superman: The Animated Series
  
• The Fantastic Four (Animated)
  
• X-Men (Live action movie)
  
• Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
  
• Batman Returns
  
• Batman Forever
  
• Batman & Robin
  
• M.A.N.T.I.S.
  
• Meteorman
  
• Barb Wire
  
• The Rocketeer
  
• The Phantom
  
• Blankman
  
• The Shadow
  
• Spawn
  
• Steel
  
• MIB: The Animated Series
  
• Tank Girl
  
• TMNT
  
• Blade
  
• Ironman: Animated Series
  
• The Incredible Hulk: Animated Series
  
• Judge Dredd
  
• Sam & Max
  
• WildC.A.T.S.
  
• Prime
  
• Darkman
  
• The Mask
  
• Mystery Men
  
• Generation X
  
• Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.
  
• The Crow
  
• Gen13

There are even more beyond this. Spider-man ran for 4 years. (And long afterwards with reruns.) Batman ran for 3 seasons. (Which also aired pretty much non-stop well into the 2000's.) With a whopping 85 episodes! These days that's unimaginable. You're lucky to get more than 6 in a season.

Let's do some math, though. 85 eps X 23 minutes = 32 hours. Which came out across three years. That's about 10 hours per year. And that's just ONE SHOW.

In 2023 there's been like... what? 5-8 superhero movies. Around 2 hours each? That's 10-16 hours. There was FAR MORE superhero content (if you include the television shows which I think is fair) in the 1990's. Even if you break it down year-by-year.

People are not worn out. This has always been a thing. You are hilariously wrong in almost every post of your's that I've read.

[Your_White_Knight]

Jackie Daytona の投稿を引用：

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

We've had FIFTEEN YEARS of superhero movies and TV Shows. Even ice cream gets old after having that much of it.

What was "superhero genre" in the 1990's?

• The Tick
  
• X-Men: The Animated Series
  
• Batman: The Animated Series
  
• Spiderman: The Animated Series
  
• Superman: The Animated Series
  
• The Fantastic Four (Animated)
  
• X-Men (Live action movie)
  
• Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
  
• Batman Returns
  
• Batman Forever
  
• Batman & Robin
  
• M.A.N.T.I.S.
  
• Meteorman
  
• Barb Wire
  
• The Rocketeer
  
• The Phantom
  
• Blankman
  
• The Shadow
  
• Spawn
  
• Steel
  
• MIB: The Animated Series
  
• Tank Girl
  
• TMNT
  
• Blade
  
• Ironman: Animated Series
  
• The Incredible Hulk: Animated Series
  
• Judge Dredd
  
• Sam & Max
  
• WildC.A.T.S.
  
• Prime
  
• Darkman
  
• The Mask
  
• Mystery Men
  
• Generation X
  
• Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.
  
• The Crow
  
• Gen13

There are even more beyond this. Spider-man ran for 4 years. (And long afterwards with reruns.) Batman ran for 3 seasons. (Which also aired pretty much non-stop well into the 2000's.) With a whopping 85 episodes! These days that's unimaginable. You're lucky to get more than 6 in a season.

Let's do some math, though. 85 eps X 23 minutes = 32 hours. Which came out across three years. That's about 10 hours per year. And that's just ONE SHOW.

In 2023 there's been like... what? 5-8 superhero movies. Around 2 hours each? That's 10-16 hours. There was FAR MORE superhero content (if you include the television shows which I think is fair) in the 1990's. Even if you break it down year-by-year.

People are not worn out. This has always been a thing. You are hilariously wrong in almost every post of your's that I've read.

Pretty much spot on...

It's not "hero fatigue" it's meh or bad movie fatigue... if there's 31 flavors of Ice cream making people eat the same flavor over and over again to try to prove some non-point and be preachy will fatigue the interest...

Stop making overly political, overly SJW heroes and hero movies... and fans will watch again

Super man was created in 1938 and is still a famous and well liked character that people will watch... making him a SJW, or a criminal, or a coward, or weaker then his feminine counterpart because it's "current year" and one's ideology dictates he "must be current" will make people get tired of watching it... it's not the character it's how it's interpreted...

Same with Star Wars, LOTR, Snow White, Dr. Who, Star Trek... it's not the basic idea it's the putting the new interpreter's version of hot-take social issues into them that's turning off fans...

You can't hand someone liver & onions and tell them it's ice cream and have them believe it just because ~you~ call it ice cream and you want others to believe it is... reality doesn't work that way, never will either... never.