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It's not "cherry picking".

In fact, you're the one cherry picking by acting that real porn (automatically) refers to the the worst type of real porn, and hentai (automatically) refers to the least worst type of hentai.

I'm recognizing that there are both.
And yet you keep trying to allude that when mentioned, Hentai is automatically referred to as the worst type. Time and time again.

Hell, you even tried to hint at slippery slope.



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Hentai can and does feed fantasies and desires which are socially taboo/unethical, without facing consequences within that industry. As opposed to real porn.
You somehow, rather poorly, tried to claim hentai will feed unethical desires, while ignoring there's entire Real Life fetishist porn out there subscribing to abduction, rape, torture, snuff, and you guessed it, even stuff where one party in question was made to act/look underaged.
I'm pointing out that there exists the least worst type of (real) porn and once it is actually compared to the worse type of hentai - like lolicon, it is generally more ethical. Absolutely. I [personally] don't really think there's even a question about it.

I'm not denying the problems of real porn industry.
Just like I'm not denying the problems of hentai industry either.

So I simply make the argument that real porn can be more ethical than hentai.
Seems as though we're running circles here now - mind if we actually take few steps forward?
Последно редактиран от Dom; 23 юли 2023 в 15:59
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No. I'm simply recognizing that it can exist that way as well, while others refused to do so in the earlier comments.

Therefore, real porn can be more ethical than hentai.

Really isn't that complicated at all.
And hentai can be more ethical than porn.
It can, yes. I don't deny that.
Последно редактиран от Dom; 23 юли 2023 в 15:59
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I think people should be aware that this ID "Safron" didn't exist until posting in this thread 4 hours ago... and it's pretty obvious why it was made.

I have no sympathy nor any support for you....
He acknowledged that some time prior that he's just the OP on a new account..

..that, and the fact that he kept posting the same comment every 10 minutes just to bump his thread.

So much for Moderators... *sigh* :steamfacepalm:
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Първоначално публикувано от Leonardo Da Pinchi:
And yet you keep trying to allude that when mentioned, Hentai is automatically referred to as the worst type. Time and time again.

Hell, you even tried to hint at slippery slope.




You somehow, rather poorly, tried to claim hentai will feed unethical desires, while ignoring there's entire Real Life fetishist porn out there subscribing to abduction, rape, torture, snuff, and you guessed it, even stuff where one party in question was made to act/look underaged.
I'm pointing out that there exists the least worst type of (real) porn and once it is actually compared to the worse type of hentai - like lolicon, it is generally more ethical. Absolutely.

I'm not denying the problems of real porn industry.
Just like I'm not denying the problems of hentai industry either.

So I simply make the argument that real porn can be more ethical than hentai.
Seems as though we're running circles here now - mind if we actually take few steps forward?
You're aware there's entire websites dedicated to actresses who look and act underage in porn, right? How does that not fuel the fantasy any less?

And those sites are legal, now, if you'd like to expand to the illegal stuff, you'd definitely cite hentai is more ethical just on the basis nobody gets hurt in hentai.

You seem to be trying to attribute just basic studios, from like the 90's, as "real" porn. not knowing, that basically...extreme stuff exists, is real, and is completely legal.
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I'm pointing out that there exists the least worst type of (real) porn and once it is actually compared to the worse type of hentai - like lolicon, it is generally more ethical. Absolutely.

I'm not denying the problems of real porn industry.
Just like I'm not denying the problems of hentai industry either.

So I simply make the argument that real porn can be more ethical than hentai.
Seems as though we're running circles here now - mind if we actually take few steps forward?
You're aware there's entire websites dedicated to actresses who look and act underage in porn, right? How does that not fuel the fantasy any less?

And those sites are legal, now, if you'd like to expand to the illegal stuff, you'd definitely cite hentai is more ethical just on the basis nobody gets hurt in hentai.

You seem to be trying to attribute just basic studios, from like the 90's, as "real" porn. not knowing, that basically...extreme stuff exists, is real, and is completely legal.
I think you're cherry-picking here.

Like I said, just one comment ago; I don't deny that there are problems with the porn industry.

What I said is that it's not as black-and-white.
There are people who say hentai is more ethical in all cases than ANY real porn, and I fundamentally and wholeheartedly disagree with that notion. I want to counter that viewpoint. I don't want to counter someone listing the (current) problems with the industries because I'm full aware of them already.
Последно редактиран от Dom; 23 юли 2023 в 16:07
how is this thread not locked yet?
Първоначално публикувано от 💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕:
how is this thread not locked yet?

Wasn’t it your duty to go after loli stuff and get it off of steam? Well now it’s your time to shine.
Първоначално публикувано от 💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕:
how is this thread not locked yet?
Mods be like:
Yeah banning OP was enough. Time for my nap that I take on my work hours.
In the end of the day no one is being hurt and it’s all fiction.

Fun fact but I take pleasure in GTA 5 by blasting everyone away.
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Първоначално публикувано от Safron:
I think people should be aware what our ‘friends from the land of the rising butt’ are trying to normalize here on steam. And there should be no sympathy nor any support for this.
I think people should be aware that this ID "Safron" didn't exist until posting in this thread 4 hours ago... and it's pretty obvious why it was made.
I have no sympathy nor any support for you....
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Първоначално публикувано от Leonardo Da Pinchi:
You're attributing a small section of an industry to an entire people, I'd strongly advise you avoid doing that.
OP's pfp used to be the racist caricature of a Japanese soldier from WW2 propaganda. IT got removed for obvious reasons. The person you are replying to has admitted to being OP on an alt.
Hopefully, their alt gets banned too. It sure took the moderators long enough, though. I just wonder when this wretched thread will finally be removed or locked.
Последно редактиран от xAlphaStarOmegax; 23 юли 2023 в 16:42
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Първоначално публикувано от 💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕:
how is this thread not locked yet?
Mods be like:
Yeah banning OP was enough. Time for my nap that I take on my work hours.
Work hours? Mods don't work, they're too busy staying home policing the internet all day!
Първоначално публикувано от Xero_Daxter:
In the end of the day no one is being hurt and it’s all fiction.

Fun fact but I take pleasure in GTA 5 by blasting everyone away.

1v1 me if i win you be my waifu ? :steamhappy:
Hopefully those japanese developers who offer those child exploration games on steam will get booted off of the platform and have to face legal consequences.

I’m still amazed that nobody in this thread has really condemned them for providing such stuff and called them out for what they are.
Последно редактиран от Plebstation 5 PRO; 23 юли 2023 в 16:52
Първоначално публикувано от Safron:
Hopefully those japanese developers who offer those child exploration games on steam will get booted off of the platform and have to face legal consequences.

I’m still amazed that nobody in this thread has really condemned them for providing such stuff.
I think I did, I said earlier that I don't think they should be on Steam. At all.
Whether it's legal or not - doesn't matter, because it is still unethical.
Thankfully, everyone here knows the schtick and why this thread was really created.
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