Why is japanese lolicon (pedophilia) and gore being tolerated on steam?

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TeslaGrill 2023 年 7 月 22 日下午 1:01

Why is japanese lolicon (pedophilia) and gore being tolerated on steam?

I mean just look at all this:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/758090/screenshots/?p=1&browsefilter=trendsixmonths

https://steamcommunity.com/app/831660/screenshots/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2165210/Nightmare/

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2824404210

https://store.steampowered.com/app/851890/GalGun_2/

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ุ 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:46

引用自 Volfogg：
This arguing kinda starts going in circles, doesn't it? Well... At least they aren't arguing about Furry erotica ethics, that would be... unfortunate.

Hentai gets just as extreme. It lets people fantasize in means that aren't physically plausible/possible.

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ZZZZZ 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:47

引用自 Volfogg：
This arguing kinda starts going in circles, doesn't it? Well... At least they aren't arguing about Furry erotica ethics, that would be... unfortunate.

its going in circles cause one side is simply trolling

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Dom 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:47

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：
引用自 Dom：
No I didn't. I was simply saying that there are cases where real porn can be more ethical than hentai.

I didn't say that all hentai is X or all porn is Y.
You tried to attribute slippery slope logic to it further by citing that hentai can be more immoral by, well, assisting in "unethical" fantasies. While completely ignoring the fact that porn can do the same thing, while actually hurting people in the process.

Regardless, you tried.

I didn't do any of what you say...? Seriously, did you even listen to me?

- Do you agree that unethical fantasies can appear in hentai?
- Do you agree that ethical (and socially acceptable) fantasies can appear in real porn?

If you answer yes to both, then you would agree that real porn can be more ethical than hentai, in certain circumstances.

That was the ONLY point I was making.

最後修改者：Dom; 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:48

#423

Your_White_Knight 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:48

引用自 Safron：
引用自 FighterSoldier：

And if that were the case, then there is nothing the Steam forums can do.

I think people should be aware what our ‘friends from the land of the rising butt’ are trying to normalize here on steam. And there should be no sympathy nor any support for this.

I think people should be aware that this ID "Safron" didn't exist until posting in this thread 4 hours ago... and it's pretty obvious why it was made.

I have no sympathy nor any support for you....

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ุ 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:49

引用自 Dom：
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：
You tried to attribute slippery slope logic to it further by citing that hentai can be more immoral by, well, assisting in "unethical" fantasies. While completely ignoring the fact that porn can do the same thing, while actually hurting people in the process.

Regardless, you tried.
I didn't do any of what you say...? Seriously, did you even listen to me?

- Do you agree that unethical fantasies can appear in hentai?
- Do you agree that ethical (and socially acceptable) fantasies can appear in real porn?

If you answer yes to both, then you would agree that real porn can be more ethical than hentai, in certain circumstances.

There it is, cherry picking under a strict defined basis. Again, compere the worst of both.

#425

Dom 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:50

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：
引用自 Dom：
I didn't do any of what you say...? Seriously, did you even listen to me?

- Do you agree that unethical fantasies can appear in hentai?
- Do you agree that ethical (and socially acceptable) fantasies can appear in real porn?

If you answer yes to both, then you would agree that real porn can be more ethical than hentai, in certain circumstances.
There it is, cherry picking under a strict defined basis. Again, compere the worst of both.

It's not "cherry picking".

In fact, you're the one cherry picking by acting that real porn (automatically) refers to the the worst type of real porn, and hentai (automatically) refers to the least worst type of hentai.

I'm recognizing that there are both. You are not.

最後修改者：Dom; 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:51

#426

Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:51

引用自 Dom：
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：
You tried to attribute slippery slope logic to it further by citing that hentai can be more immoral by, well, assisting in "unethical" fantasies. While completely ignoring the fact that porn can do the same thing, while actually hurting people in the process.

Regardless, you tried.
I didn't do any of what you say...? Seriously, did you even listen to me?

- Do you agree that unethical fantasies can appear in hentai?
- Do you agree that ethical (and socially acceptable) fantasies can appear in real porn?

If you answer yes to both, then you would agree that real porn can be more ethical than hentai, in certain circumstances.

That was the ONLY point I was making.

I would argue no since hentai isn't real people.

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Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:52

引用自 Dom：
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：
There it is, cherry picking under a strict defined basis. Again, compere the worst of both.
It's not "cherry picking".

In fact, you're the one cherry picking by acting that real porn (automatically) refers to the the worst type of real porn, and hentai (automatically) refers to the least worst type of hentai.

I'm recognizing that there are both. You are not.

You are doing the polar opposite.

You are making hentai refer to the 'worst' type of hentai while making real porn refer to the 'best' type of real porn.

#428

Dom 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:52

引用自 SlowMango：
引用自 Dom：
I didn't do any of what you say...? Seriously, did you even listen to me?

- Do you agree that unethical fantasies can appear in hentai?
- Do you agree that ethical (and socially acceptable) fantasies can appear in real porn?

If you answer yes to both, then you would agree that real porn can be more ethical than hentai, in certain circumstances.

That was the ONLY point I was making.

I would argue no since hentai isn't real people.

That's fine. And I disagree because I think porn is way more than just that, fundamentally.

最後修改者：Dom; 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:52

#429

Dom 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:54

引用自 SlowMango：
引用自 Dom：
It's not "cherry picking".

In fact, you're the one cherry picking by acting that real porn (automatically) refers to the the worst type of real porn, and hentai (automatically) refers to the least worst type of hentai.

I'm recognizing that there are both. You are not.

You are doing the polar opposite.

You are making hentai refer to the 'worst' type of hentai while making real porn refer to the 'best' type of real porn.

No. I'm simply recognizing that it can exist that way as well, while others refused to do so in the earlier comments.

Therefore, real porn can be more ethical than hentai.

Really isn't that complicated at all.

最後修改者：Dom; 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:54

#430

ุ 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:55

引用自 Dom：
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：
There it is, cherry picking under a strict defined basis. Again, compere the worst of both.
It's not "cherry picking".

In fact, you're the one cherry picking by acting that real porn (automatically) refers to the the worst type of real porn, and hentai (automatically) refers to the least worst type of hentai.

I'm recognizing that there are both.

And yet you keep trying to allude that when mentioned, Hentai is automatically referred to as the worst type. Time and time again.

Hell, you even tried to hint at slippery slope.

引用自 Dom：

Hentai can and does feed fantasies and desires which are socially taboo/unethical, without facing consequences within that industry. As opposed to real porn.

You somehow, rather poorly, tried to claim hentai will feed unethical desires, while ignoring there's entire Real Life fetishist porn out there subscribing to abduction, rape, torture, snuff, and you guessed it, even stuff where one party in question was made to act/look underaged.

#431

ุ 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:55

引用自 Dom：
引用自 SlowMango：

You are doing the polar opposite.

You are making hentai refer to the 'worst' type of hentai while making real porn refer to the 'best' type of real porn.
No. I'm simply recognizing that it can exist that way as well, while others refused to do so in the earlier comments.

Therefore, real porn can be more ethical than hentai.

Really isn't that complicated at all.

And hentai can be more ethical than porn.

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Plebstation 5 PRO 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:57

引用自 Your_White_Knight：
引用自 Safron：

I think people should be aware what our ‘friends from the land of the rising butt’ are trying to normalize here on steam. And there should be no sympathy nor any support for this.

I think people should be aware that this ID "Safron" didn't exist until posting in this thread 4 hours ago... and it's pretty obvious why it was made.

I have no sympathy nor any support for you....

Does your wife know you support lolicon?

#433

ุ 2023 年 7 月 23 日下午 3:57

引用自 Safron：
引用自 Your_White_Knight：

I think people should be aware that this ID "Safron" didn't exist until posting in this thread 4 hours ago... and it's pretty obvious why it was made.

I have no sympathy nor any support for you....

Does your wife know you support lolicon?

Ad hominem, for when you've got nothing better?

#434