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Vacations are literally a hyper-capitalistic conspiracy
I saw a poorly made meme a few days back, while of course it was just a joke the more I thought about it the more I felt like it might be up to something.

Vacations are above all just 2 things:
1: Expensive
2: Stressful

Of course no poor family could actually afford a vacation in the first place, but a middle-class family is the perfect fit. Middle-class people usually have quite decent jobs, make a decent amount of money, and have just the right amount of free time, I think that's great for the elite, so let's keep it that way. So how do we do that? well it's simple, make them bleed money and be stressed out even during their holidays where they could relax and feel comfortable about their finances (we don't want that).

It's not a coincidence, vacations are designed so that as soon as you return you have to rush back to work after wasting your money on expensive hotels and plane tickets, do you think people who's jobs involve traveling from country to country pay for expensive plane tickets and stay in hotels? No, it's only advertised to you because it's convenient you bleed money not just for the economy of the country you are visiting but also the country you work in. Keeping you stressed by making flight times just inconvenient enough and pressuring you to see all the tourists sites as soon as possible also means you don't get any funny ideas of using your money to invest in something actually useful or self-improvement or self-reflection.

Moral of the story: Just play video games instead, there is no time limit to stress you out, you have all the time in the world, you only have to pay for them once, and you can probably do everything you can do on vacation in your hometown anyway.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Grim Reaper; 24 Ιουν 2023, 13:51
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Scotters:
Is it ok for people who do have the money and resources to do a vacation trip to do that very thing?
As long as you don't trash on the place you go or destroy the ecosystem, feel free to wander in unknown territory.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Scurrybt:
*Me reading this while in Hawaii*

Nice. Which island?
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από 󠀡󠀡Eréndira:
Vacations are intended to be a getaway, a respite, adventure or discovery. For all those reasons, I'm in.
I completely agree with this sentiment. A vacation can be a simple as taking a week off and hiking locally. How much you want to spend is completely up to you. You can fly to France and enjoy a beach, walk around, and sip drinks on a patio. Or you can spend far more, and head to Euro Disney, Versailles, the Eiffel Tower, etc. The beauty of a vacation is that you get to choose your own adventure.

If anything, I find the OPs post very sad, as you can’t even view a vacation as an escape.
Vacations are cool, what is not cool is the travelling :steambored:

But well, just do not travel?
Travel is a business selling a product like any other. I agree that it is just a another consumer good. It's also horrible for the environment. Places exist as tourist traps specifically to cater to people with excess money.

Guy Debord once said that travel was just about people trying to recreate some pre-fabricated ideal image of leisure manufactured by mass media, whether that was going to Disney World or climbing Mt Everest. You bought a ticket or travel package in exchange for standardized memories, novelty t-shirt, corny photos, boring anecdotes, etc. Dude was accurate. He said that before Instagram too.

But whatever. Spend your time and cash as you wish.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Incarnate; 25 Ιουν 2023, 14:48
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mattmoo:
A vacation is an idea.

Make it real and then it becomes way more fun.

:stardrop:

Vacations are fun to plan, fun to do, and fun to remember.

To have actual memories of places from all over the world is cool too. I can turn them on any moment too.

One of my favorite things is when I forget I'm on the vacation. You've a several days or so into it and you're immersed in the experience, but you're not thinking about the end of your trip. You know that feeling when a vacation is gonna end - like two days before it ends? I like when you're in the sweet spot of the vacation.
And tourist destinations such as Lost Wages are funding the entire nation and allowing things like the video game lifestyle.

Places like this are the money funnels that absorb gobs of foreign cash that gets spread through the entire economy.

So yes, they are a capitalists dream!
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Apollo702; 25 Ιουν 2023, 20:54
often times you will need a vacation to recover from your family vacation. its just nonsense and silly, work hard at your job so you can over spend to take the kids and family on a vacation they don't really want to go on, where everyone fights, someone throws up in the car, someone else gets sick or hurt, the house is left a mess so you come back to stinking garbage, and all the food in your fridge was spoiled cause the power tripped during the storm while your on vacation.

your neighbors knew you where gone so they used all your outside electrical sockest to run the party they had over the weekend while you where over paying for your beach holiday weekend that resulted in traffic jam at the bridge , wasted hot sunny day in the car, only to get to your location where it rained the whole time and you had your wallet stolen and left the trickets for the amusment park back at home with your credit card.
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Places like this are the money funnels that absorb gobs of foreign cash that gets spread through the entire economy.

True. And it's also a show of human nature - not just for vice - but also foolishness. You can't beat the law of long-run averages. You can't beat Las Vegas (only other poker players). But people try anyway - and build casino after casino for them. And even if you tell them it's a losing proposition, they still do it. Heh. What a world.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Apollo702:
Places like this are the money funnels that absorb gobs of foreign cash that gets spread through the entire economy.

True. And it's also a show of human nature - not just for vice - but also foolishness. You can't beat the law of long-run averages. You can't beat Las Vegas (only other poker players). But people try anyway - and build casino after casino for them. And even if you tell them it's a losing proposition, they still do it. Heh. What a world.


It's funny that when people think of economics they tend to think of durable goods and manufacturing.

Those things are all fine and dandy.

Don't forget the value of cash. Easy cash.

Tourism is an insanely efficient industry. It requires low materials, labor, can offer very high pay, requires relatively fewer credentials for many workers- and then there is that thing above called math.

We just love people who come here who have a "system" and think that they can defeat math. We might even call such folks a "VIP."

Welcome welcome!
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mattmoo:
All right well, not everyone might be set up to have the same experiences as you.

I'm just saying unless people realize that vacations are an idea, things can go wrong.

Probably true. It's hard to have both time and money in life. But they can die trying - after seeing and doing plenty of cool things. Still good.

Yes, things can go wrong on vacations. But things can also go incredibly right. And I find the incredibly right things outweigh the incredibly bad things. Also, you can drastically reduce the odds of incredibly bad things happening by having a system.

We met some girls (French, Singaporean, American) in a yurt in Mongolia (which has the most stunning night skies you've ever seen (Miky Way as clear as day). Anyway, those girls liked to party. But they were also travelling the world for six months on a shoestring budget. Travel can be both fun and cheap. They had the time of their lives. How do I know? Because they told me afterwards.
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We met some girls (French, Singaporean, American) in a yurt in Mongolia (which has the most stunning night skies you've ever seen (Miky Way as clear as day).

This part makes me jealous.

One thing that sucks here is all the light pollution.

I can only imagine how good some of those views must be!
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Apollo702; 25 Ιουν 2023, 21:18
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Apollo702:
We just love people who come here who have a "system" and think that they can defeat math. We might even call such folks a "VIP."

Welcome welcome!

HAHA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6zJ42u7Ahw

The house always wins, Apollo. If you can't spot the sucker at the poker table then you're the sucker.

That said, I love Vegas, baby. Add a trip to the Grand Canyon as a highlight.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από kbiz:
We met some girls (French, Singaporean, American) in a yurt in Mongolia (which has the most stunning night skies you've ever seen (Miky Way as clear as day).
This part makes me jealous.

Yeah, super hot. Super funny. And cool. We ran down this giant 600 ft sand dune - giant strides - legs sinking up to the ankles - sometimes tumbling. But yeah, that night I went outside the yurt to take a piss and I looked up and almost dropped my junk. Do you realize how many stars are actually up there? Lots! Heh.
I have thought about it.

Perhaps we need to crank the capitalism here up one more notch.

They could install machines at the airport that turns people upside down and shakes the money out of them into a funnel and then it gets spread throughout the town.

We are going to get it all anyways!
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