*Every* person is valuable, whether they are billionaires or poor people

[Dom]

I think everyone knows what news I'm referring to here - but I see there are some people who wish the worst for others simply because they are rich - for millionaires or billionaires, act as if their life isn't valuable.

Why? Really, WHY?

The value of a person cannot be reduced to their financial worth. Never. Each individual has their own unique qualities, experiences, and potential contributions to society that make them valuable and worthy of respect and recognition, putting their wealth aside. We should strive to see the humanity in every person, regardless of their wealth, and appreciate the unique gifts they bring to our collective world.

Most of the time when some person is rich, it directly translates to the fact that they have done significant job in driving economic growth and contributing to the overall social progress. They create jobs and invest in businesses, make our world better in many ways. While it is important to acknowledge the value of every person, including those who may not be as wealthy, we should also recognize the important contributions that rich people can and do make to our world.

To sum everything up, stop hating others, see value in every breathing being and life. If you refuse to do that, then I'm quite confident there is something wrong with you.

[Netaris]

Publicado originalmente por Volfogg:

Well, it could imply a case of "YOLO" mentality among clients that decided to use it anyway.
If they didn't value their life, why should we?

Exactly, they've played with their life against the ocean and as it happen often, the ocean winned. At least it will teach a lot of idiots around here how dangerous seas are, you don't joke about that.

[Dutchgamer1982]

every human has equal worth in the eyes of God.
-and as such so must they have to me.
**but the most important thing is they die, saved, as this life is not important, it's the next.
-so doing good deeds, being nice to people, let alone being liked to people is irrelevant, if it not makes them more likely to also convert to God.

***it also means that a christian that dies is less of an issue to me than an nonbeliever.
(that christian goes to heaven, but those nonbelievers to hell, that christian having more time on earth, could only make them loose their faith, but those nonbelievers could still become christians)
-meaning most likely I would give my life for a nonbeliever quicker than for a fellow christian.
(in case of a fellow christian it would depend who of us I estimate will make more converts in our remaining life)

Added to this however is the general rule of God I must love all others..
-so when it is not detrimental to converting, and I can help others or be nice to them, even if at my own expense, I must.
(love others as yourself, does imply I must also perform SOME self-preservation, so there is a limit in how much one can do and give, than again giving more than you actually should and could, can be an act of faith as well but should not be done by default)

so I am bold to say the truth, regardless if I am hated or liked for it.
I will try to give to those in need, goods, services, love and time, not to gain anything from it, nor that I as a person like those people more than other people
but cause I feel ordered by God to do so.
I will try to seek Gods wisdom to find which humans I can best spend my time, and resources on.. as there will be always more needing than i can possible give.
I full well know I cannot convert people.. but I can be a tool to make it happen, so I must seek his guidance in this path.

often God does send one to the downtrodden, and the filth of the earth.
**people who are not used that anybody will give them anything..
**those are generally more open to recieve Gods love, than those who think of themselves as "good people" and "not needing help"

Ofcourse I have a personality too :
I can say personally I tend to not be impressed by fandom.
-I not care for famous persons, I tend to look down on the concept of "idolising people"
you can like the art or work a person makes or do, but that should be seen seperate from the person making it.
No person always strikes gold, and fandom blinds you for this ability to select only the gold nuggets.
Even worse is group pressure, many people only liking things cause other people liking them.. those not even KNOW truelly what they themself personally like.

- sucking up to people who could give you a boost, I can get more practical.. but rarely this is done properly, people spend money and time on people they want to be like, or at least be as succesfull, wealthy, talented or powerfull as, without any chance for that to ever happen.
I have it had that mayors, or wealthy people were in the same room as me, many went to them to get a hand, a signature or just have a talk.. I saw no need, for starters I not know them, I much rather talk to this person I know and like, and second unless I have an actual proposal or idea I could tell such a person that might have a chance to be picked up by them.. why waste their time?
**yeah they go out in public to boost their populairity.. but on me.. that just not works.. I look to their acts.. waving and kissing baby's has 0 influence on me.

you see the president sitting next to you.. or a billionair.. you ignore him let him be.. just as you would if anybody else sits there.
(nobody impresses me much)

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Phobos:

Publicado originalmente por Ad Victoriam !:

Exactly, they've played with their life against the ocean and as it happen often, the ocean winned. At least it will teach a lot of idiots around here how dangerous seas are, you don't joke about that.

And that's why you will never get in an aeroplane, car, train or bus. Right?

If none of those vehicles went through the proper safety testing and rating systems. Or were you attempting a weird gotcha by completely removing that context?

[Majestic Turkey]

Its not true at all, many groups are a net liability, just based on tax contribution alone, never mind crime and all the other things.

[Mauserich]

Publicado originalmente por Ganger:

People who roam the streets to attack and rob other people are worth nothing in my own opinion. People who are lazy and want to sit on their arses all day and leech of others are worth nothing.

You know something, back in the past, leeches would of mostly died or been killed away because the small communities there lived wouldn't have supported laziness or people not pulling their weight.

That is certainly true, but today it looks somewhat different in states with massive oversaturation in almost all areas. How fat do you still want to feed the people, with which mental diarrhea do you still want to sprinkle the people, which absurd economic bubbles do you still want to invent? How aggressively do you still want to work the people, that they consume some garbage they dont't like?

Today you are a resource. ,-)

[Majestic Turkey]

Publicado originalmente por Mauserich:

Publicado originalmente por Ganger:

People who roam the streets to attack and rob other people are worth nothing in my own opinion. People who are lazy and want to sit on their arses all day and leech of others are worth nothing.

You know something, back in the past, leeches would of mostly died or been killed away because the small communities there lived wouldn't have supported laziness or people not pulling their weight.

That is certainly true, but today it looks somewhat different in states with massive oversaturation in almost all areas. How fat do you still want to feed the people, with which mental diarrhea do you still want to sprinkle the people, which absurd economic bubbles do you still want to invent? How aggressively do you still want to work the people, that they consume some garbage?

The equality people had their solution, Gulags, its been done before.

[ZZZZZ]

billionaires kill millions of poor people.. how many billionaires get killed by poor people? I mean while every life has value I totally get if people feel less sad about the hyper protected class, its just the circumstances of our current time

[Dracoco OwO]

Publicado originalmente por Phobos:

Publicado originalmente por Ad Victoriam !:

Exactly, they've played with their life against the ocean and as it happen often, the ocean winned. At least it will teach a lot of idiots around here how dangerous seas are, you don't joke about that.

And that's why you will never get in an aeroplane, car, train or bus. Right?

Realsitically it's nothing quite like it, that's a pretty particular way to die.

[Mauserich]

Publicado originalmente por Majestic Turkey:

Publicado originalmente por Mauserich:

That is certainly true, but today it looks somewhat different in states with massive oversaturation in almost all areas. How fat do you still want to feed the people, with which mental diarrhea do you still want to sprinkle the people, which absurd economic bubbles do you still want to invent? How aggressively do you still want to work the people, that they consume some garbage they don't like?

The equality people had their solution, Gulags, its been done before.

There are also middle paths between human recources and gulag. ,-)

[Xero_Daxter]

If I oof then I’m pretty sure people wouldn’t notice. I’ll be like a fart in a factory that makes fans.

[Downtown DK Company ✅]

Publicado originalmente por Majestic Turkey:

Its not true at all, many groups are a net liability, just based on tax contribution alone, never mind crime and all the other things.

Yeah, because I’m not a woman or old I can get discriminated against negatively by companies because they call me high risk due to statistics regarding gender and age. Companies used to also do this for race but no longer can.

[Netaris]

Publicado originalmente por Phobos:

And that's why you will never get in an aeroplane, car, train or bus. Right?

Aeroplanes are the safest way to travel, even safer than cars ... Of course I'll take one if I have too. Just recognize there is a huge difference between taking a plane, a well-tested and trusted technology and going next to the Titanic in a garbage can crafted with cheap materiels by a team of reckless idiots. If you want to go deep into the oceans, it's already very dangerous in a proper submarine with an experimented crew. So there is no way, ever, that I will put my ass willingly into that kind of trashcan, period.

With seas, do your job as seriously as possible, because seas seriously try to kill you. They've learned it the hard way.

[kbiz]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Phobos:

And that's why you will never get in an aeroplane, car, train or bus. Right?

If none of those vehicles went through the proper safety testing and rating systems. Or were you attempting a weird gotcha by completely removing that context?

It's not a bad point. Plenty of commercial flights went down in the early days. This industry is in its infancy. This tragedy will change the rules of the game. And at some point underwater tourism will be much safer.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Publicado originalmente por Majestic Turkey:

Its not true at all, many groups are a net liability, just based on tax contribution alone, never mind crime and all the other things.

than you only look on people from a financial perspective..
and on life only materialistic.
-
I deem that WRONG to look to humans only matterialistic..

But if you look like that.. yes some people are a drain..
HOWEVER even than, determining WHO is less easy than you think.

-if you just look at "who recieves more in wellfare than they pay in taxes" than you overlook a lot of other costs and value people could add to a society at large.

-if you look instead to it as "who by their excisting increase the pile of goods and services available to all mankind more than their excistance takes out"
**you also ecompass value of volentair work or parenthood, while putting a negative value on the acts of some investors who may earn a lot but destroy the real economy in the process***

-if you look instead to it as "who by their excisting increase the HAPPYNESS of other humans alive"
**that even people who in the above 2 are a drain, could still add, while others who are a gain in one or both of the above, could still be a gain.

and even than it is not THAT simple.. as factors are interactive...

**a person growing up in europe even when from poor bad parents, has a lot higher chance to ending up with a bachalor degree and a decent job and good life, than a person growing up under that situation in the usa
**a person who is jailed in norway, or most other western nations in general.. has a lot higher chance to be chanced into a usefull member of society than in usa.
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if a person has no chance in his society to prevent harm to himself from a young age by joining a gang, and to do crim
If a person has no chance to get ahead in life, than by doing crime
If a person when in jail, has no chance to rehabilite
-> that also breeds behavior..

so a person who in one society is a gain.. is in another a drain.. and reversed.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Rich or poor. Its all about how you behave and act.

Those big rich globalist elites that call 100% of the people in this thread a "useless eater" and wargame reducing the population along with reminding you to save the planet while your speck of carbon footprint is the problem compared to their private jet flying which they defend by saying theyre the solution like a high priest (Bill Gates) and just buy carbon offsets aka lol throw money (meaningless to them) and get a free pass.

Those are who I have a problem with.