*Every* person is valuable, whether they are billionaires or poor people

[Dom]

I think everyone knows what news I'm referring to here - but I see there are some people who wish the worst for others simply because they are rich - for millionaires or billionaires, act as if their life isn't valuable.

Why? Really, WHY?

The value of a person cannot be reduced to their financial worth. Never. Each individual has their own unique qualities, experiences, and potential contributions to society that make them valuable and worthy of respect and recognition, putting their wealth aside. We should strive to see the humanity in every person, regardless of their wealth, and appreciate the unique gifts they bring to our collective world.

Most of the time when some person is rich, it directly translates to the fact that they have done significant job in driving economic growth and contributing to the overall social progress. They create jobs and invest in businesses, make our world better in many ways. While it is important to acknowledge the value of every person, including those who may not be as wealthy, we should also recognize the important contributions that rich people can and do make to our world.

To sum everything up, stop hating others, see value in every breathing being and life. If you refuse to do that, then I'm quite confident there is something wrong with you.

[Dom]

SlowMango původně napsal:

Dom původně napsal:

It's a major assumption that anyone with success in their life don't see "value in anyone below their nose", that is often simply not true.

Bill Gates and many other billionaires have given billions of dollars into charity, to some of the poorest regions in the world.
Literally every rich person is expected to give a large percentage of their money not only to taxes but also charity, in order to be validated and accepted. They make significant contributions all around them.

You're conflating a few of the top rich people with every rich person.

The Panama Papers revealed all we needed to know about a majority of rich people. So did the lock downs.

And the fact that some people wish for their death reveals all we need to know about them.
Wishing for someone's death based on nothing but their wealth is inhumane and disgusting.

Someone's human worth/value & life isn't determined by wealth - but you try to make it about wealth by referring to Panama Papers. I think that's rather unfortunate.

[Goldias]

Yes they're all valuable, but not equal.

And I never want them to die, or whatever. Simply don't care.

[Mauserich]

You can't say that as a general rule, you have to look at it in a differentiated way. There are poor and rich valuable people, and there are poor and rich criminals. One can still understand the poor criminal, while the rich criminal acts out of pure greed. A job created alone is not the yardstick here.

[Netaris]

Dom původně napsal:

Why? Really, WHY?

Listen, there is thousands (if not more) of peoples who die everyday, nobody care. Most of these peoples did nothing wrong and just were at the bad time and the bad place. And here we talk a lot about 5 idiots, endangering themselves to a point what happened to them is basically natural selection. So yes, it's sad, they died in horrible conditions and so on, but that's only 5 guys and the only reason we talk about these ones is because they're richs. When my own die, nobody give a ♥♥♥♥ about them. So, give me only one good reason to care about this ?

That's why, not my community, not my problem.

[Volfogg]

I await with curiosity when people will get bored of this case. Weren't those only 5 people anyway? I'm pretty sure more die on regular daily basis for more or less tragic reasons.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Dom původně napsal:

SlowMango původně napsal:

You're conflating a few of the top rich people with every rich person.

The Panama Papers revealed all we needed to know about a majority of rich people. So did the lock downs.

And the fact that some people wish for their death reveals all we need to know about them.
Wishing for someone's death based on nothing but their wealth is inhumane and disgusting.

Someone's human worth/value isn't determined by wealth - but you try to make it about wealth by referring to Panama Papers. I think that's unfortunate.

What can I say? When you base your whole life around cheating the system and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over everyone below you just so you can buy more toys, don't expect those people to suddenly feel sorry for you when it bites your ass.

Actually, I referred to the Panama papers to show that the rich aren't your friend like you've been painting them, not to point out that they are rich.

I find all of this very ironic also since being very 'pro-rich' is a very right-wing philosophy.

[MinionJoe]

I've never wished for someone's death. I do often wish for their enlightenment though.

Unfortunately, for some people, enlightenment sometimes comes just before their death.

Which just illustrates the futility of my wishing, I suppose.

[Dracoco OwO]

Ad Victoriam ! původně napsal:

Dom původně napsal:

Why? Really, WHY?

Listen, there is thousands (if not more) of peoples who die everyday, nobody care. Most of these peoples did nothing wrong and just were at the bad time and the bad place. And here we talk a lot about 5 idiots, endangering themselves to a point what happened to them is basically natural selection. So yes, it's sad, they died in horrible conditions and so on, but that's only 5 guys and the only reason we talk about these ones is because they're richs. When my own die, nobody give a ♥♥♥♥ about them. So, give me only one good reason to care about this ?

That's why, not my community, not my problem.

Absolutely agree and it seems that the French guy worker that was with them even was reluctant to do this and was pretty much forced to do it for money, this is only deserved for the most part but others must still suffer for the stupidity and greed of others, as ALWAYS.

[Dom]

Ad Victoriam ! původně napsal:

Dom původně napsal:

Why? Really, WHY?

Listen, there is thousands (if not more) of peoples who die everyday, nobody care. Most of these peoples did nothing wrong and just were at the bad time and the bad place. And here we talk a lot about 5 idiots, endangering themselves to a point what happened to them is basically natural selection. So yes, it's sad, they died in horrible conditions and so on, but that's only 5 guys and the only reason we talk about these ones is because they're richs. When my own die, nobody give a ♥♥♥♥ about them. So, give me only one good reason to care about this ?

That's why, not my community, not my problem.

The issue is not really the fact that there are people who don't "care". Like you said, death is everywhere, this is nothing truly extraordinary. The issue is that there are people who actually celebrate/glorify these deaths, say they deserved it - really attempt to downplay the human value/worth of these individuals in every way they can. That's something I cannot stand and I'll always speak against.

Every person and life is inherently valuable, regardless of their personal wealth.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

This is moral high ground take. The rosy colored glasses take. The reality is that throughout history, people have been used as canon fodder. In many different ways. "life is cheap"

[Dom]

SlowMango původně napsal:

Dom původně napsal:

And the fact that some people wish for their death reveals all we need to know about them.
Wishing for someone's death based on nothing but their wealth is inhumane and disgusting.

Someone's human worth/value isn't determined by wealth - but you try to make it about wealth by referring to Panama Papers. I think that's unfortunate.

What can I say? When you base your whole life around cheating the system and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over everyone below you just so you can buy more toys, don't expect those people to suddenly feel sorry for you when it bites your ass.

Actually, I referred to the Panama papers to show that the rich aren't your friend like you've been painting them, not to point out that they are rich.

I find all of this very ironic also since being very 'pro-rich' is a very right-wing philosophy.

I don't really think believing in human value/worth of every single person regardless of their wealth, and condemning the wishes for someone's death because they are millionaires or billionaires, is necessarily a "very right-wing philosophy".

I think you may be giving a bit too much credit for right-wing there.

If we want to bring politics here which I really did not intend to do, both right and left have traditionally been on board with the concept of American dream and building major success, and both have also applauded others for their success. California which is somewhat left-leaning is actually the capital of American dream/success/wealth.

I'm not saying rich people should be above the law or anything but what I'm saying is that they are humans and their lives matter if we truly believe in the concept of human rights and value.

[Triple G]

Dom původně napsal:

Every person and life is inherently valuable, regardless of their personal wealth.

Nah. It´s worth exactly zero.

How would You realistically value life of anything? If You do - it comes down to what i wrote first. Around $650,000 USD Dollars, if You sell the parts in an industrial country. But that´s only how we value it, because we apparently don´t know any other measurement we could agree on.

Edit: Let´s say it has emotional value for some.

[Volfogg]

Human lives don't matter in the long run. Humans just delude themselves those do, due to inflated sense of superiority over other lifeforms. The planet Earth doesn't "care".

[Netaris]

Dom původně napsal:

The issue is not really the fact that there are people who don't "care". Like you said, death is everywhere, this is nothing truly extraordinary. The issue is that there are people who actually celebrate/glorify these deaths, say they deserved it - really attempt to downplay the human value/worth of these individuals in every way they can. That's something I cannot stand and I'll always speak against.

Every person and life is inherently valuable, regardless of their personal wealth.

Oh, ok, I see your point. I'm not against some dark humor, some of the posts I've seen about spongebob and other BS like that were really fun. But actually wishing, seriously, for these peoples deaths is another thing indeed.

I still feel more concerned about ukrainians and russians slaughtering each others to serve american interrests. Because those ones, the conscripts in particular, asked for nothing and were throwed in this mess to die in trenches. I really feel sorry for those ones, much more than for our 5 idiots here.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

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