I wish I wasn't transgender but I am

[Felexiia]

This is not a joke;

I wish I could simply be content with being born as a man and not envy women for what they are.

I wish I could simply do HRT and "become" a girl but that is no easy feat, even though I am german, as I don't want to sadden my parents.

Being and acting female just feels so much better to me, I recently bought make-up and clothes and really enjoy it and want to get into it more but I could never come out the closet.

I also want to marry some day, have a wife and that of course is of the table if you are trans, since most women want a strong man who can protect them, care for them and be their masculine companion, not some femboy twink, no offense.

Anybody has any experiences in that regard?

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Messaggio originale di Ellie:

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Nobody is asking anybody to "bend biology", like I said earlier, nobody believes you can change your biological sex. It's just common decency to not intentionally cause a patient emotional distress.

Oh okay, I concur then.

And some trans-women 100% believe you can change your biological sex. I've dated them. A few fully transitioned trans-women, and ironically they're some of the most highly transphobic people I've ever met.

I dated this hispanic trans-woman fully SRS for a while that maintained views of transwomen that I can't post here because I know they'll be removed, She fully maintained that she was a FULL woman, and was under the belief that she could now become pregnant.

[krag hag]

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

As I said as a medical professional I'm throttled into going into the science of why your opinion is wrong.

What are you gonna justify bullying your patients to me?

[krag hag]

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

And some trans-women 100% believe you can change your biological sex. I've dated them. A few fully transitioned trans-women, and ironically they're some of the most highly transphobic people I've ever met.

So you refuse to respect trans people's preferred pronouns but you've dated multiple trans women? Bullsh1t dude

[Sixtyfivekills]

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

As I said as a medical professional I'm throttled into going into the science of why your opinion is wrong.

What are you gonna justify bullying your patients to me?

What exactly would you consider bullying?



If you're seeing a doctor, you have to face the truth, and if truth hurts you then I am afraid that's a you problem. What, am I supposed to expect the doctor to pat me on the back and be like "there there....."? If doctor is teasing you or making fun of you then that's a different story, but I doubt that's the case.

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

As I said as a medical professional I'm throttled into going into the science of why your opinion is wrong.

What are you gonna justify bullying your patients to me?

I never said I bullied patients, just that there's a science that goes further into this topic and I would love to talk about it, but I can't because Steam doesn't allow that type of conversation. Remember I'm a medical professional who went to school for years to discuss this topic, I'm not the average poster who knows very little on the subject.

I've dated trans-women, I'm not seeking to bully anyone. If anything I would love to work through the various issues the activists flat out ignore that so more trans-women can be accepting of themselves and live fuller healther lives.

[krag hag]

Messaggio originale di Sixtyfivekills:

If you're seeing a doctor, you have to face the truth, and if truth hurts you then I am afraid that's a you problem. What, am I supposed to expect the doctor to pat me on the back and be like "there there....."? If doctor is teasing you or making fun of you then that's a different story, but I doubt that's the case.

We could argue for hours about the "truth", I believe gender identity is more important than biological sex and you probably don't. It's an endless debate that I've had a million times on this forum.

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

And some trans-women 100% believe you can change your biological sex. I've dated them. A few fully transitioned trans-women, and ironically they're some of the most highly transphobic people I've ever met.

So you refuse to respect trans people's preferred pronouns but you've dated multiple trans women? Bullsh1t dude

I never said I refuse to use their pronouns. I'm against jaliing medical professionals because they don't toe your ideological line.

I have a friend who lost their job because he didn't want ot use the pronoun of "It" and "thing" remember when a person talks about pronouns, those potential pronouns aren't just she/him/he/her/xe/xir, the pronouns can get extreme. They pronouns can mention animal pronouns. And in the case of my friend, they had pronouns that treated the person as an object....as a thing. and my friend the medical professional refused to call them that.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Messaggio originale di Sixtyfivekills:

If you're seeing a doctor, you have to face the truth, and if truth hurts you then I am afraid that's a you problem. What, am I supposed to expect the doctor to pat me on the back and be like "there there....."? If doctor is teasing you or making fun of you then that's a different story, but I doubt that's the case.

We could argue for hours about the "truth", I believe gender identity is more important than biological sex and you probably don't. It's an endless debate that I've had a million times on this forum.

Eh, we're still here, may as well until I black out.

[krag hag]

Anyway I'm getting tired of 5v1ing people in trans debate threads so I'm out

[Goose]

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Anyway I'm getting tired of 5v1ing people in trans debate threads so I'm out

yeah that's understandable, i do that all the time here.

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Messaggio originale di British East India Company ✅:

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

And some trans-women 100% believe you can change your biological sex. I've dated them. A few fully transitioned trans-women, and ironically they're some of the most highly transphobic people I've ever met.

I dated this hispanic trans-woman fully SRS for a while that maintained views of transwomen that I can't post here because I know they'll be removed, She fully maintained that she was a FULL woman, and was under the belief that she could now become pregnant.

I wouldn’t brag about that

It plays into the OP question. They're curious if anyone has had negative interactions with this type of thing. I didn't date the trans-women who believed that very long. Her outright hatred towards other trans-folk and some of her other opinions really turned me off from her.

If it makes any difference, I find that once you date trans-women, there's many women who won't like to date you. Or rather they look at you dating trans-women as a red-flag, so not neceessary something that they won't date you over, but something to be aware of.

[krag hag]

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

I never said I refuse to use their pronouns. I'm against jaliing medical professionals because they don't toe your ideological line.

I have a friend who lost their job because he didn't want ot use the pronoun of "It" and "thing" remember when a person talks about pronouns, those potential pronouns aren't just she/him/he/her/xe/xir, the pronouns can get extreme. They pronouns can mention animal pronouns. And in the case of my friend, they had pronouns that treated the person as an object....as a thing. and my friend the medical professional refused to call them that.

I see, I thought you meant you refused to use people's preferred pronouns entirely, my apologies. We may actually find some common ground here but like I said I'm really tired of this, I'll catch you all in another thread.

[Chesmu]

Erin, why is gender identity, something that a person themselves can identify as, is accepted without debate, research, test, evidence, and only because the person identifies and said so and other kinds of identity, like one identifying as a professor while they don't have a degree, or people who identify themselves as inanimate objects are not accepted?

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Messaggio originale di Erin:

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:

I never said I refuse to use their pronouns. I'm against jaliing medical professionals because they don't toe your ideological line.

I have a friend who lost their job because he didn't want ot use the pronoun of "It" and "thing" remember when a person talks about pronouns, those potential pronouns aren't just she/him/he/her/xe/xir, the pronouns can get extreme. They pronouns can mention animal pronouns. And in the case of my friend, they had pronouns that treated the person as an object....as a thing. and my friend the medical professional refused to call them that.

I see, I thought you meant you refused to use people's preferred pronouns entirely, my apologies. We may actually find some common ground here but like I said I'm really tired of this, I'll catch you all in another thread.

You'll find ALOT of people who aren't against using a preferred pronoun as long as there's no consequences for getting it wrong, people tend to get upset when they learn misgendering leads to jail time or a fine or even a steam ban. There's alot of people who will accept the trans- individual but reject all the added political/ideological ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

So if a person is seeking tolerance and seeking to be accepted by society, it's probably best to reject the poilitical/actviists side of this issue and seek to become...just yourself.

Consider Blaire White. (she's transgender) She's not really conservative, but she's accepted by many because she rejects much of the left-wing dogma of this issue.

I dated another trans-women who had braindamage, because she was beaten half to death by a man she met at a Bernie Bro rally. She taught me that the ideology of this...the left-wing ideology is somehting to be afraid of because it generate tribalism and it creates a false sense of tolerance.

[Lawh]

You're only going to live once, right? And then you'll die. You can know that releasing the fear of that will release you from the fear of almost all other things. One of them is definitely not caring what people who can't understand feel or think.

One of the greatest factors in life is suffering. Avoiding it for yourself and avoiding needlessly causing it for others is something nice to aim for. You will suffer, but it shouldn't be prolonged, and it shouldn't happen in a place of no rest from it. No one can go forever without literal and metaphysical rest.

We also already know, that you can't bend yourself to fit a mold unless you can make a game out of it or something. In any case, it probably won't work on the long run as a life style. So what's left?

Being yourself, in small increments, until you reach your center where you can withstand occasional suffering or strife. There really is no other realistic way. It's really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scary at first. However, facing ones fears is one of those things that will help you grow, and most importantly, facing fears that hold you back. It alright to be afraid of things that sort of at least make sense. But when you are fearing becoming you, that's when things need to be taken to another level.

I'm actually really happy to hear you've gotten some clothes and make-up, and it's a move into the right direction. Also allow yourself to change in a way where once you try things out, you might realize that you don't need to do that anymore, or then it will become something that will give you immense pleasure.

We all have our things. Some of us feel it stronger than others. A super feminine woman is nothing different from a super feminine man. It happens. It's your life. You will fit other things into it, and this will not have to be your entire life. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. I think you are pretty much there, and next you will start realizing more and it's probably going to be a bit of a wild ride at times, but allow it to take you around sometimes. It's a place of strength to know what you like and what you want to be and what you want. You will get more things that you like and want by being who you are more and more, until you reach that comfy zone of who you are.

Take a few steps forward here and there, and if you need to, kick the closet door through the wall and get it over with when you feel like you can't take it anymore. And remember, take things as challenges that you can overcome, rather than walls or limitations. The more you get out of your system, the better. Anyone telling you different are doing what you are doing now, which is being afraid of whatever their personal closet friend is.