I don't understand vegans

[Dawido]

They hate meat but at the same time they eat things that taste like meat but aren't meat

[Xero_Daxter]

Not only that but it’s kinda selfish. Imagine living in a 1st world country where you have the choice to be picky. Some countries can’t afford to be picky and eat what is available to them.

[Netaris]

Human beings are omnivorous, the end. If you don't want meat, nobody will force you to eat it, but don't bother those who want it. There is nothing more to say about that.

[Chesmu]

And just what the ♥♥♥♥ is global warming? :D Eating meat is a required thing for a healthy population. Cut from useless and harmful stuff like all those cars and big corrupt companies, not from what we need.

It's like being on an overweight plane and throwing people out to avoid a crash, instead of throwing their baggage out.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Publicado originalmente por Chesmu:

We fight for food everyday, corporations fight other corporations ... They want to make more money and give up less things.

Your problem is with Capitalism.
That is another social construct we don't need anymore and should get rid of.

Also, you seem to not know any vegans.
In Brazil, cattle and soy are both responsible for a lot of deforestation, slave labor, corruption, etc.
The soy is primarely produced to feed confined cattle and livestock everywhere else on the planet. Even so, most veg(etari)?ans will avoid soy, and only consume in small quantities.

Also, vegetarins are also tied with other life-styles, such as being more ecological, spiritual, and such. People will look for colorful plates, produced locally, and pratice gratitude.

They won't chomp down on "McMegaDelux VeganPower TrippleCheddar HeartStopper"© with 2L of Coca-Cola.

They question what they eat more, not less.

[Xero_Daxter]

In the end of the day being vegan doesn’t make you morally superior. Do I believe there is animal mistreatment? Yes. But as technology advances animals are being treated better and better. Heck… pigs in my town are treated like royalty because they believe if the pig experiences any kind of stress it will not taste good.

Imagine pigs being treated better than you at home. Lol.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Publicado originalmente por Chesmu:

And just what the ♥♥♥♥ is global warming? :D Eating meat is a required thing for a healthy population. Cut from useless and harmful stuff like all those cars and big corrupt companies, not from what we need.

It's like being on an overweight plane and throwing people out to avoid a crash, instead of throwing their baggage out.

No, eating meat is not required for a healthy population. We are, in fact, eating way more meat than its healthy for humans to do. Also, there is a huge excess in production.

Meat is bad usage of soil, water and resources.

The major action we can take against climate change and shortage of potable water is to drastically cut down on meat consumption everywhere, specially on rich countries.

[MoonC A T]

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

In the end of the day being vegan doesn’t make you morally superior. Do I believe there is animal mistreatment? Yes. But as technology advances animals are being treated better and better. Heck… pigs in my town are treated like royalty because they believe if the pig experiences any kind of stress it will not taste good.

Imagine pigs being treated better than you at home. Lol.

I know for a fact that my cat has a better life than most of the people on this planet. WAAYYY BETTER.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

In the end of the day being vegan doesn’t make you morally superior. Do I believe there is animal mistreatment? Yes. But as technology advances animals are being treated better and better. Heck… pigs in my town are treated like royalty because they believe if the pig experiences any kind of stress it will not taste good.

Imagine pigs being treated better than you at home. Lol.

Switch places with one, then. "Lol."

[Chesmu]

Publicado originalmente por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Your problem is with Capitalism.
That is another social construct we don't need anymore and should get rid of.

Also, you seem to not know any vegans.
In Brazil, cattle and soy are both responsible for a lot of deforestation, slave labor, corruption, etc.
The soy is primarely produced to feed confined cattle and livestock everywhere else on the planet. Even so, most veg(etari)?ans will avoid soy, and only consume in small quantities.

Also, vegetarins are also tied with other life-styles, such as being more ecological, spiritual, and such. People will look for colorful plates, produced locally, and pratice gratitude.

They won't chomp down on "McMegaDelux VeganPower TrippleCheddar HeartStopper"© with 2L of Coca-Cola.

They question what they eat more, not less.

I have many problems with any word that has "isim" at the end of it. They are misleading.

If you think people enjoying some good burger and a cola and having fun in life makes them less spiritual, ungrateful and mean, you may have a discriminating view on them by default, while not knowing them.

Eating burger doesn't stop hearts, not working out afterwards does, and being Vegans doesn't automatically make one angel.

While I was a Vegan for 3 years, I also felt like being superior and smarter than every other human, and I was viewing others as unworthy and savages, but then I realized they have been there, done that, and it didn't work for them, and they had every reason to live normally and naturally with meat on the menu.

[Xero_Daxter]

Publicado originalmente por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

In the end of the day being vegan doesn’t make you morally superior. Do I believe there is animal mistreatment? Yes. But as technology advances animals are being treated better and better. Heck… pigs in my town are treated like royalty because they believe if the pig experiences any kind of stress it will not taste good.

Imagine pigs being treated better than you at home. Lol.

Switch places with one, then. "Lol."

Feed me until I’m grown, kill me instantly and painlessly then sure

[Chesmu]

Publicado originalmente por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

No, eating meat is not required for a healthy population. We are, in fact, eating way more meat than its healthy for humans to do. Also, there is a huge excess in production.

Meat is bad usage of soil, water and resources.

The major action we can take against climate change and shortage of potable water is to drastically cut down on meat consumption everywhere, specially on rich countries.

If there is excess in production, why don't you ask yourself: "Why those homeless are starving on the streets?" You take for granted that everything else is perfect, and now all that remains is not eating meat. Start protesting where does that excess meat go, not why it's made.

Soil, water and resources are getting destroyed everyday to make apartments, which packs people in a small area on top of each-Other, since we have an "overbreeding" problem, and the meat is least of the worries when it comes to soil and water. As I said, cut from what we don't need, not the crucial stuff.

So instead of starving billions of people from healthy food, feed them with knowledge and drastically cut down on breeding everywhere.

[Vakers]

And are these vegans here in the room with us right now?

Seriously, though. Every time I see people complain so much about vegans and how all of them are smug, self-superior a-holes, I'm just like "Huh?" I don't think I've ever actually met many vegans IRL if any at all. As for online...well, vegans aren't the only ones doing that. I just discount anyone who acts crazy on Twitt- I mean X. I don't even think of them as real people with real opinions because most of the time, they actually aren't. Just trolls or bots or w/e else.

Ironically I personally see more people get super smug about how vegans are so annoying and cringey than I see actual vegans being annoying and cringey. In fact, I'm seeing it right now in this thread. It's almost the same degree of self-superiority because vegans are an easy, low hanging fruit to make fun of especially since they're still in the minority in the world as far as I can tell.

[Supersquid]

Publicado originalmente por Goldias:

It's not like all of them hate the taste of meat, just don't have the stomach to kill for it so they eat fake meat instead.

Their conscience works too well I guess.

They don't have to kill for it. They just have to buy it...

[Chesmu]

Publicado originalmente por Supersquid:

Publicado originalmente por Goldias:

It's not like all of them hate the taste of meat, just don't have the stomach to kill for it so they eat fake meat instead.

Their conscience works too well I guess.

They don't have to kill for it. They just have to buy it...

So I didn't make my house, a construction worker did it for me. Should I get out?

[Sidakte]

tbh i cant understand the criticism towards vegans for their choice of not having meat
i remember a lot of hardcore vegans around 2004-2008 going full hostile verbally if they found out i eat meat. i didnt gave much credit to it cause i always assumed its the enthusiasm of the noob, everybody when they start w/ something get ultra hardcore and dedicated (no that doesnt mean everybody whos opinionated = noob vegan). later on i saw that people started to calm down a bit and just leave it to personal choice and thats it, all is good
but i dont get the criticism towards vegans themselves tbh