Opinions on the 'dont say gay' law in florida

[fender jag]

This is going to get controversial and ill prolly get banned but screw it. they suck at baseball and lsu is arguably better

[Ramonkey]

I don’t see the issue with telling a teacher to delegate such subjects to the parents. Let schooling at that age be about learning numbers and the ABC instead. It’s simply more appropriate this way, time and place for everything and all that

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

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People get so offended easily nowadays.

Gee, wonder why.

They should bring back bullying. Look at me. Worked wonders.

[⍚MagusFromHeaven⍚]

"Yo look at him. He's trans"

[Entity]

My opinion is that ‘Don’t say gay’ was a gross misrepresentation of what was really happening.

[fender jag]

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Gee, wonder why.

They should bring back bullying. Look at me. Worked wonders.

they really should

[MinionJoe]

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My opinion is that ‘Don’t say gay’ was a gross misrepresentation of what was really happening.

Same tactic as was used with GG. Force a grossly inaccurate interpretation of the situation and claim it will result in harm to [insert demographic here].

[screamingcrane]

I think most parents can teach their own kids about that when the time comes.

[mai72]

I don't care what people do if it doesn't effect anyone else. The "don't say gay" law targets classrooms K-3. Why are we teaching young children about topics that should be taught at home, and why at such a young age? IMO, these type of topics should be kept out of early education.

I taught in South Korea for many years. I also lived in many parts of East Asia, and the one thing I noticed in Asia is how America has fallen behind, in regard to education. America owned the 20th century, but will fall apart in the 21st century. The 21st century will be won by China, South Korea, Vietnam because while they are concerned with education, we are more concerned with trivial matters like "the don't say gay" bill.

With that said, we should always treat others with respect.

[Agent Chieftain]

My opinion is that calling it the "don't say gay bill" is a clear sign of ignorance, because you clearly never read the bill yourself and got your info from rage bait content.

The bill makes it illegal for teachers to have discussions about sex with kids without the parents knowledge, whether it's gay or straight or whatever. That's it.

This bill even has majority support from democrat voters. Because any normal human agrees that you shouldn't be having sex talks with kids and trying to hide it from parents. Because that's creepy behavior.

[ミートボール]

is this a real thing?

[ZZZZZ]

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My opinion is that calling it the "don't say gay bill" is a clear sign of ignorance, because you clearly never read the bill yourself and got your info from rage bait content.

The bill makes it illegal for teachers to have discussions about sex with kids without the parents knowledge, whether it's gay or straight or whatever. That's it.

This bill even has majority support from democrat voters. Because any normal human agrees that you shouldn't be having sex talks with kids and trying to hide it from parents. Because that's creepy behavior.

does it mean its ok if its not hidden from parents

[Professor Goat]

please feel free to leave. or at a minimum, read the law and its references. you'll realize this thread title is a troll.

[Tonepoet]

I just read the N.B.C. article on it.[www.nbcnews.com]


Is this applicable to all classrooms in the state, or only public institutions that receive state funding? Public schools are fundamentally a governmental institution, so the legislature has an interest in setting the standards of the curriculum during school hours. Moreover, it only applies up until 3rd grade, and most children in third grade are going to be 8 years old.

Typically puberty starts at the age of 10 1/2 for girls or 11 1/2 for boys[www.verywellfamily.com], so even with the restriction sexual education can still give most children at least a couple of years head start before it really becomes relevant to their lives. The age range varies by individual, but 8 years old is just about as young as can be reasonably expected.

Public school teachers are not their own free agents. They are the governmental employees employed at the behest of the government to serve as its mouthpiece to children. Moreover, thanks to compulsory education laws, most parents and children have no choice in the matter of whether they attend, so everything in the curriculum is basically being shoved down their throats, and this is not part of the educational system's mission statement of teaching children skills like reading, writing, arithmetic or history. Indeed, I do not really know which classroom subject should be teaching this besides Biology, and it seems as if most children do not start learning Biology until 9th grade, when they are starting high school.

Also, hiding subject matter predominantly relating to sexuality from children until they reach a certain age is already common practice in our society, whether it pertains to homosexual relationships or heterosexual relationships. It wasn't so long ago when the powerpuff girls reboot basically removed Ms. Sara Bellum from the show, basically for being too sexualized for example. (I do not think that was the appropriate way to handle the Sara Bellum situation by the way, but that is besides the point)

I really see no reason to be teaching children about sexuality in general before they at least reach the age where it is appropriate to have what is euphemistically referred to as the talk about the birds and the bees. 3rd grade is a very, very conservative restriction on the subject matter all things considered. One might argue a case for making it 2nd grade, just to be safe, but I do not find it unreasonable for such a restriction to be imposed on public schools, especially since attempting to teach children something they are too young to fully comprehend is fundamentally pointless.

However, with all of that having been said, if this applies to privately funded institutions as well (or if it were to also apply in any teacher's own free time for that matter), then there would be significant freedom of speech issues, which I feel should be obvious enough that I do not feel as if I need to detail them.

[kbiz]

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My opinion is that calling it the "don't say gay bill" is a clear sign of ignorance, because you clearly never read the bill yourself and got your info from rage bait content.

The bill makes it illegal for teachers to have discussions about sex with kids without the parents knowledge, whether it's gay or straight or whatever. That's it.

This bill even has majority support from democrat voters. Because any normal human agrees that you shouldn't be having sex talks with kids and trying to hide it from parents. Because that's creepy behavior.

Exactly:

The Parental Rights in Education Act, commonly referred to as the "Don't Say Gay" law, is a Florida state law passed in 2022 that regulates public schools in Florida.

1. The most controversial sections of the act prohibit public schools from having "classroom discussion" or giving "classroom instruction" about sexual orientation or gender identity from kindergarten through third grade or in any manner deemed to be against state standards in all grades.

2. prohibits public schools from adopting procedures or student support forms that maintain the confidentiality of a disclosure by a student, including of the gender identity or sexual orientation of a student, from parents; and requires public schools to bear all the costs of all lawsuits filed by aggrieved parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Parental_Rights_in_Education_Act

So, 1. no sex talk from kindergarten to 3rd grade and 2. no keeping sh!t from parents.

If teachers screw that up, they can be sued.

[gza]

I say gay