Crazy conspiracy theory about phones

[Faster With Feeling]

I'm going to post a crazy conspiracy theory.

Cellphones were a cool invention they let people talk to other people from almost anywhere.

BUT! That wasn't good enough corporations wanted more, and so did governments

Enter my crazy conspiracy theory:

I've often wondered if smartphones were invented as a very soft way of getting people used to the idea of being under surveillance 24/7 without them for the most part catching onto that..

[Professor]

Ah yes the good old "surveillance of population" question. Surely by now we all know that the systems government & corporations have developed are defiantly geared towards knowing our every move. Sure the corporations use the excuse of "improving services" & governments say that it is necessary to protect against terrorism, but we are now aware that their surveillance strategies go much further than that.

Everything electronic like computers, phones, banks, credit cards, health records, driving history etc. are all subject to monitoring. There is no real way of escaping it, unless some measures & sacrifice is taken. People happily go along with it, some don't care whilst others take active measures to minimise their digital footprint.

Corporations have no choice but to collect & store data as governments have the back door key to all that information they store. The world is moving quickly to introduce a fully electronic system, whilst at the same time withdrawing other non electronic options.

Have you noticed that corporations & governments are pushing people to use on line services, closing face to face outlets, applications & enquires that are directing traffic into the cloud? What about businesses & utility companies that no longer accept cash, is this just a push to introduce cashless societies? Perhaps one day we will no longer be able to buy a loaf of bread or litre of milk, without being identifiable & using cash only.

[Acetyl]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Professor:

100% deserved. Borderline demanded. You get what you tolerate. How many people ITT own a phone. How many of them were talking about this 10 years ago, 15 years. But they still pay their bill. They carry their phone. They buy new peripherals, a new charger here and there, perhaps a new phone.

Between worlds, in limbo. One foot in, one foot out, marching along to half measures. Which is it. What's it going to be. Time to stop talking and choose.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

nah ,

a real conspiracy theory would be that rich peoples like bill gates listen to every single conversations that normal peoples like you and I have with their mobile phones during the time they're having ♥♥♥ and sniffing out adrenochrome made from the sweat of african children.

I swear I've seen things similar to this on twitter.

[Professor]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Acetyl:

100% deserved. Borderline demanded. You get what you tolerate. How many people ITT own a phone. How many of them were talking about this 10 years ago, 15 years. But they still pay their bill. They carry their phone. They buy new peripherals, a new charger here and there, perhaps a new phone.

Between worlds, in limbo. One foot in, one foot out, marching along to half measures. Which is it. What's it going to be. Time to stop talking and choose.

Absolutely correct, as individuals have the power in their own hands to change. But instead we go along with it, bury our heads in the sand or just give up caring. It is both one foot in & one foot out, so perhaps you are right that it is time to make a stand, choose wisely :))

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lemonfed:

nah ,

a real conspiracy theory would be that rich peoples like bill gates listen to every single conversations that normal peoples like you and I have with their mobile phones during the time they're having ♥♥♥ and sniffing out adrenochrome made from the sweat of african children.

I swear I've seen things similar to this on twitter.

it's also a joke by the way ... >_>

I mean , sometime peoples can't seem to understand sarcasm including me.

[Acetyl]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lemonfed:

nah ,

a real conspiracy theories would be that rich peoples like bill gates listen to every single conversations that normal peoples like you and I have with their mobile phones during the time they're having ♥♥♥ and sniffing out adrenochrome made from the sweat of african children.

I swear I've seen things similar to this on twitter.

:cocochan2:

You mean the human trafficking of those Haitian children by the Clinton Foundation affiliate Laura Silsby? That happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case?useskin=vector

[EDSHOT]

I will post my experiences.
"Back in the day" I used a regular flip phone. Didn't think too much of it or mind it too much.
Then came in the modern phones. Didn't mind using them with Android Cyanogenmod.

Eventually my phone stopped working and I needed a replacement and found that most phones you could not take out the battery. In addition most of them would not work with Cyanogenmod, but that didn't matter because the project would die anyways.
As my last resort I decided to go back to an older phone. Only for it not to work because multiple carriers around the world seemed that maintaining "legacy" networks was not in their interests and that they only wanted to support 4G/5G/VoLTE.

What this meant is that if you had an older phone you would have to go and buy either a regular phone running Google KaiOS or your average Android/Apple phone. All of these new phones typically cannot have the battery removed.

All of this was done intentionally. Companies purposely designing and programming your phone to be hard to run Cyanogenmod so you can be stuck with their default version with Google.
Purposely designing to not allow taking out the battery so when the battery fails you are forced to buy a new phone. In addition it allows you to be tracked constantly since you cannot truly know if your phone is off.
Purposely shutting down legacy networks to get people using older phones to new phones as well as being able to easily monitor audio calls with VoLTE.

I also personally believe they also force 4G/5G for more accurate tracking since it has shorter wavelength compared to 2G/3G, but I have no proof of this.

[Professor]

Too often people feel powerless because of the lack of options, but not all people feel that way as many also feel liberated to use technology. The problem seems to arise when faced with an extremely targeted effort to narrow the alternatives, ending up with only one method to do anything & that is the cloud.

What Acetyl said in post #63 is correct as we simply succumb to their methods instead of using our feet & wallets to shape them. Yes we have the power over them as it us the consumer, that makes or breaks them. They are structured to suite our needs & wants & they are basically guided by how we spend & decide to use or acquire anything.

[Acetyl]

Diposting pertama kali oleh EDSHOT:

I will post my experiences.
"Back in the day" I used a regular flip phone. Didn't think too much of it or mind it too much.
Then came in the modern phones. Didn't mind using them with Android Cyanogenmod.

Eventually my phone stopped working and I needed a replacement and found that most phones you could not take out the battery. In addition most of them would not work with Cyanogenmod, but that didn't matter because the project would die anyways.
As my last resort I decided to go back to an older phone. Only for it not to work because multiple carriers around the world seemed that maintaining "legacy" networks was not in their interests and that they only wanted to support 4G/5G/VoLTE.

What this meant is that if you had an older phone you would have to go and buy either a regular phone running Google KaiOS or your average Android/Apple phone. All of these new phones typically cannot have the battery removed.

All of this was done intentionally. Companies purposely designing and programming your phone to be hard to run Cyanogenmod so you can be stuck with their default version with Google.
Purposely designing to not allow taking out the battery so when the battery fails you are forced to buy a new phone. In addition it allows you to be tracked constantly since you cannot truly know if your phone is off.
Purposely shutting down legacy networks to get people using older phones to new phones as well as being able to easily monitor audio calls with VoLTE.

I also personally believe they also force 4G/5G for more accurate tracking since it has shorter wavelength compared to 2G/3G, but I have no proof of this.

imo the whole 5G thing was about densification and laying the fiber optic spine required to support IoT. The Plan is for internet of things to begin to slowly turn into internet of bodies via wearables and clothing. This will happen during 6G. When 7G rolls around it may not even need to be announced. It'll already be grown in the body, you'll be a transceiver in a mesh network. That's what "morgellons" is about. People who were goofs in the early population scale tests, and their body rejected it or whatever, which made it form the fibrous wires wrong. Look up shewanella, it forms conductive nanowires naturally. So you'll have this stuff everywhere. On you, in you, embedded in your clothing, perhaps implants. Nanotech in the body growing these wires, quantum dots, single and double wall carbon nanotubes, atomic scale transistors and logic gates, who knows.

Microsoft 2020 - WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTBIBLIO

No sense going into it. The people who want to do it have to formally announce it before people are willing to read between the lines and put two and two together. That's another thing that has to change. The intention isn't to be defeatist or complain, I just want people to respond overtly, or perhaps feel a bit called out, because that's the only way to lift the cultural chilling effect and artificial taboo that's been created around questioning cell phones at all.

[EDSHOT]

During my time of using a modern phone I had been fine with the Kik instant messenger, despite all the crazy stuff other people did on it.
However they got bought by another company and became a ad infested app with annoying adult bots so I looked for another app.

I then realized that every instant messenger I came across could only be used on a phone and required a phone number to be used. The only instant messenger that didn't have either problem was Discord, but I did not want to use that messenger knowing how they save all messages and images. For messages I don't have proof that Discord keeps them permanently, but I do have proof that they do keep images and videos permanently.

Anyways, very displeased with this I tried to create my own messenger.
Setting up the server was not too hard, but the biggest problem I was faced with was the apps.
I could not program my own app because this would mean I would have to cooperate with Google and Apple and I didn't want to. Sure I don't necessarily have to cooperate with Google, but with Apple's locked down iOS you have to.

In the end I could only rely on other people's apps.
They weren't the best, but they worked for the most part.
In the ultimate end, however, it was pointless. I have learned the hard way that people will choose convenience over freedom.

Most people I knew and talked about with the messenger weren't interested and typically made lousy excuses to not use it. Some used it for a bit and then went back to Discord.
I then realized it wasn't worth it to waste time and money maintaining this messenger. If people didn't bother to even bat an eye in "beta" I am sure same would happen with it being complete.

But the ultimate reason why I shut it down is because I also realized that I don't even have meaningful conversations on any of these messengers anymore.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Acetyl:

Diposting pertama kali oleh EDSHOT:

I will post my experiences.
"Back in the day" I used a regular flip phone. Didn't think too much of it or mind it too much.
Then came in the modern phones. Didn't mind using them with Android Cyanogenmod.

Eventually my phone stopped working and I needed a replacement and found that most phones you could not take out the battery. In addition most of them would not work with Cyanogenmod, but that didn't matter because the project would die anyways.
As my last resort I decided to go back to an older phone. Only for it not to work because multiple carriers around the world seemed that maintaining "legacy" networks was not in their interests and that they only wanted to support 4G/5G/VoLTE.

What this meant is that if you had an older phone you would have to go and buy either a regular phone running Google KaiOS or your average Android/Apple phone. All of these new phones typically cannot have the battery removed.

All of this was done intentionally. Companies purposely designing and programming your phone to be hard to run Cyanogenmod so you can be stuck with their default version with Google.
Purposely designing to not allow taking out the battery so when the battery fails you are forced to buy a new phone. In addition it allows you to be tracked constantly since you cannot truly know if your phone is off.
Purposely shutting down legacy networks to get people using older phones to new phones as well as being able to easily monitor audio calls with VoLTE.

I also personally believe they also force 4G/5G for more accurate tracking since it has shorter wavelength compared to 2G/3G, but I have no proof of this.

imo the whole 5G thing was about densification and laying the fiber optic spine required to support IoT. The Plan is for internet of things to begin to slowly turn into internet of bodies via wearables and clothing. This will happen during 6G. When 7G rolls around it may not even need to be announced. It'll already be grown in the body, you'll be a transceiver in a mesh network. That's what "morgellons" is about. People who were goofs in the early population scale tests, and their body rejected it or whatever, which made it form the fibrous wires wrong. Look up shewanella, it forms conductive nanowires naturally. So you'll have this stuff everywhere. On you, in you, embedded in your clothing, perhaps implants. Nanotech in the body growing these wires, quantum dots, single and double wall carbon nanotubes, atomic scale transistors and logic gates, who knows.

Microsoft 2020 - WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTBIBLIO

No sense going into it. The people who want to do it have to formally announce it before people are willing to read between the lines and put two and two together. That's another thing that has to change. The intention isn't to be defeatist or complain, I just want people to respond overtly, or perhaps feel a bit called out, because that's the only way to lift the cultural chilling effect and artificial taboo that's been created around questioning cell phones at all.

I've seen some french youtuber claim that this cryptocurrency tech was to be implemented in the vaccine ... like he shown the same patent documents and said it was a proof that microsoft would put crypto technologies in it to track down everybody and even see where they get buried.

>_>

you can take any conspiracy then you'll see peoples making 10 different variants with vastly different interpretations , this is the internet where the chinese phone is king.

[Acetyl]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lemonfed:

I've seen some french youtuber claim that this cryptocurrency tech was to be implemented in the vaccine ... like he shown the same patent documents and said it was a proof that microsoft would put crypto technologies in it to track down everybody and even see where they get buried.

>_>

I'm not going to comment on whatever model they put forward, cause I just don't know. There are several models and ideas out there. You just have to get a sense for the gist of where they came from and waht they're based on, and sort through it from there.

[Faster With Feeling]

Hey do you think back in the 50s / 60s that they had any inkling any of this kind of stuff would not only be possible but easy to do and implement? They as in corporations and government working hand in hand

[Acetyl]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cyanide Enterprise NCC-3679:

Hey do you think back in the 50s / 60s that they had any inkling any of this kind of stuff would not only be possible but easy to do and implement? They as in corporations and government working hand in hand

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but the answer is near certainly yes. One of the first thing they tested after the advent of radio was whether a person could be hypnotized by remote verbal commands. Likewise with television subliminals. So they had these uses in mind and were testing everything. Orwell and Huxley were both in the Fabian Society and 1984 obviously has the television watching you. There's something to be said for the atmosphere and philosophy of A Clockwork Orange as well, however the methods described were decades out of date on the technological side. On the conceptual side they were a few thousand years out of date.

[Professor]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cyanide Enterprise NCC-3679:

Hey do you think back in the 50s / 60s that they had any inkling any of this kind of stuff would not only be possible but easy to do and implement? They as in corporations and government working hand in hand

Yes for sure governments & corporations are working together, in one sense the government is a corporation. Governments write the laws that corporations must follow & their is no doubt that legislation requires corporations to "know their customers" by collecting & storing any & all data possible.

Australia makes no secret of it as our government openly tells people about the use & collection of metadata. Here all corporations must keep their data for 2 years & we all know that governments have the back door key to all the data being kept & stored. Governments would love nothing more than to be there with you, side by side, every step of the way, no matter what.