Which is worse, no water or no electricity?

[spasti696969]

No Electricity:

- No video games
-No Internet
- No TV
- No Microwave
-No Fridge
- No charging phones
- No lamps (yes light is important)

No Water:
- No toilet
-No shower
- No laundry (debatable if this counts because no laundry machine if no electricity either)
- No easy access to drinking water
- No lawn


It seems like you lose more from losing electricity but what you lose from no water is pretty critical. Hard to decide which would be worse. Thoughts?

[spasti696969]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

I can deal with no electricity.. It's quite obvious which is worse just based on the fact that water is necessary for survival alone, whereas electricity isn't.

Alright, I should have specified that "no water" means you can't turn on the sink or shower or toilet. Obviously if there was no water left on earth that would be a lot worse, lol

[OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle]

I lose both if I lose power so moot choice lol

But losing electricity will always be preferable, because we don't literally require electricity to function. Er, yet. Future post-human cyborg abominations may have the reverse situation.

[Hammer Of Evil]

for survival, water is most important. after your last drink of water the clock starts ticking on ~3 days.

[MoonC A T]

All the EV drivers are cringing right now.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Rumpelcrutchskin:

Depends how long, if something like massive solar flare happens you could be without power for a decade until power grid gets rebuilt.

Also a generator wouldn't overcome an EMP which would also fry the generators circuits before it even turned on.

Regardless, we as a species would survive. Dwindle a fair bit, yes, but we'd survive. People tend to forget, we survived LONG before electricity was even discovered.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

8 billion people cant survive without electricity either, not good old days 200 years back anymore.
Society will collapse.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Rumpelcrutchskin:

8 billion people cant survive without electricity either, not good old days 200 years back anymore.
Society will collapse.

MODERN society would collapse, yes. But society in its entirety? Nah. fun thing about civilizations, they collapse.


Rome, for example.

[Shiro♌]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

I can deal with no electricity.. It's quite obvious which is worse just based on the fact that water is necessary for survival alone, whereas electricity isn't.

Alright, I should have specified that "no water" means you can't turn on the sink or shower or toilet. Obviously if there was no water left on earth that would be a lot worse, lol

So, the situation is that we can't use water to shower or turn the water in sink, but do have water in plastic bottles to drink, for example?

If that's the case, I'd choose dependable on how long..
If it's for longer than ten days - Water.
If it's for less than ten days - Electricity.

Sure, if I can't take a shower or wash the dishes, I'll just have to deal with eating cold meals that don't really require washing, like pastries.. But I can get over it.
The most difficult task would be to keep going while knowing that I smell really really very bad, but that's basically the only difficulty, isn't it?
.. Whereas if I have no electricity.. All I can do is to get some book and rely on more physical activities than now, but I won't be able to progress any further with work, making it quite difficult to handle.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

Ursprungligen skrivet av spasti696969:

Alright, I should have specified that "no water" means you can't turn on the sink or shower or toilet. Obviously if there was no water left on earth that would be a lot worse, lol

So, the situation is that we can't use water to shower or turn the water in sink, but do have water in plastic bottles to drink, for example?

If that's the case, I'd choose dependable on how long..
If it's for longer than ten days - Water.
If it's for less than ten days - Electricity.

Sure, if I can't take a shower or wash the dishes, I'll just have to deal with eating cold meals that don't really require washing, like pastries.. But I can get over it.
The most difficult task would be to keep going while knowing that I smell really really very bad, but that's basically the only difficulty, isn't it?
.. Whereas if I have no electricity.. All I can do is to get some book and rely on more physical activities than now, but I won't be able to progress any further with work, making it quite difficult to handle.

You can always make a camp fire to cook food.

[MoonC A T]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

I can deal with no electricity.. It's quite obvious which is worse just based on the fact that water is necessary for survival alone, whereas electricity isn't.

Alright, I should have specified that "no water" means you can't turn on the sink or shower or toilet. Obviously if there was no water left on earth that would be a lot worse, lol

This brings up an interesting point.

We are interested in colonizing the moon or Mars or whatever.

They better make sure that the water situation is really squared away. I can see someone invading water plants and holding the whole planets hostage that way.

[spasti696969]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

Ursprungligen skrivet av spasti696969:

Alright, I should have specified that "no water" means you can't turn on the sink or shower or toilet. Obviously if there was no water left on earth that would be a lot worse, lol

So, the situation is that we can't use water to shower or turn the water in sink, but do have water in plastic bottles to drink, for example?

If that's the case, I'd choose dependable on how long..
If it's for longer than ten days - Water.
If it's for less than ten days - Electricity.

Sure, if I can't take a shower or wash the dishes, I'll just have to deal with eating cold meals that don't really require washing, like pastries.. But I can get over it.
The most difficult task would be to keep going while knowing that I smell really really very bad, but that's basically the only difficulty, isn't it?
.. Whereas if I have no electricity.. All I can do is to get some book and rely on more physical activities than now, but I won't be able to progress any further with work, making it quite difficult to handle.

That's about what I was thinking too. Where I live it's been flooding a lot and we lost power for about two weeks and then shortly after that the well water for our neighborhood went out for about a week. Both experiences sucked in different ways.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

So, the situation is that we can't use water to shower or turn the water in sink, but do have water in plastic bottles to drink, for example?

If that's the case, I'd choose dependable on how long..
If it's for longer than ten days - Water.
If it's for less than ten days - Electricity.

Sure, if I can't take a shower or wash the dishes, I'll just have to deal with eating cold meals that don't really require washing, like pastries.. But I can get over it.
The most difficult task would be to keep going while knowing that I smell really really very bad, but that's basically the only difficulty, isn't it?
.. Whereas if I have no electricity.. All I can do is to get some book and rely on more physical activities than now, but I won't be able to progress any further with work, making it quite difficult to handle.

You can always make a camp fire to cook food.

Candles for light, fire for food cooking/preservation, warmth, and safety.

[Shiro♌]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SnakeFist:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Shiro♌:

So, the situation is that we can't use water to shower or turn the water in sink, but do have water in plastic bottles to drink, for example?

If that's the case, I'd choose dependable on how long..
If it's for longer than ten days - Water.
If it's for less than ten days - Electricity.

Sure, if I can't take a shower or wash the dishes, I'll just have to deal with eating cold meals that don't really require washing, like pastries.. But I can get over it.
The most difficult task would be to keep going while knowing that I smell really really very bad, but that's basically the only difficulty, isn't it?
.. Whereas if I have no electricity.. All I can do is to get some book and rely on more physical activities than now, but I won't be able to progress any further with work, making it quite difficult to handle.

You can always make a camp fire to cook food.

.. You can't make a campfire here, or if you make it near forests - It's dangerous, and you may face a really tasty penalty for damaging the environment, if caught or proven that you've truly done that.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av SnakeFist:

You can always make a camp fire to cook food.

.. You can't make a campfire here, or if you make it near forests - It's dangerous, and you may face a really tasty penalty for damaging the environment, if caught or proven that you've truly done that.

If you live in fire country, where you get strong sunlight. Solar stoves exist.

[MoonC A T]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av SnakeFist:

You can always make a camp fire to cook food.

.. You can't make a campfire here, or if you make it near forests - It's dangerous, and you may face a really tasty penalty for damaging the environment, if caught or proven that you've truly done that.

I'm pretty sure the campfire police aren't going to care if the world is on the brink of ending.