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Lora Grim (Αποκλεισμένος) 10 Μαρ 2023, 6:38
Are the sith right?
Is peace truly a lie? Are emotions destined to rule us forever? Is power the only thing that can free us?
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The light seems to not be about emotions at all. If if it was fine with em Ani would have no worry about marrying. Instead we got darth vader
You would be correct the issue is however is that one of the dark emotions Attachment which the Force regulates as a selflessness emotion, in short Ani's attachment to anyone is a dark emotion, it effectively violates the selfnessness nature of the Jedi.

Edit: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force#Attachment
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The thing is, its not evil, to be fundimentally the Force and Sith are the same thing, but its more akin to the Jedi VS the Sith, if we take it in that context, then its properly..

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force

Light Side of the Force is defined as positive emotional use of the Force
Dark side is defiend as the evil use or dark emotional use of it.

If we take for example Emperor Palp, his anger and rage is dark, compared to the always rather calm and collective Yoda who would be light.

In effect everyone has both in them but like the Yin and Yang, one cant be both, one is either Yang, or Yin.
I think they can be both, we have grey jedis after all
They 100% can be both, the thing to take in is that both Sith and Jedi are to a hard bluntness, just buzzwords, if we take in that both have the same abilities regardless of dark or light, then really all the major difference is at the end is one side is seen as good and the other is bad but thats literally it, heck whether you die good or bad you still become part of the force so at the end it literally does not matter if one is Sith or Jedi xD
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They 100% can be both, the thing to take in is that both Sith and Jedi are to a hard bluntness, just buzzwords, if we take in that both have the same abilities regardless of dark or light, then really all the major difference is at the end is one side is seen as good and the other is bad but thats literally it, heck whether you die good or bad you still become part of the force so at the end it literally does not matter if one is Sith or Jedi xD

I'm by no means a lore expert on Star Wars, but there are lots of gross simplifications here and flat out inaccuracies. I will just say, it's impossible to be both Jedi and Sith (obviously) just as it's impossible to be both Christian and Pagan IRL. They are conflicting philosophies and following one restricts your use of the force to that specific mindset. You are also wrong about them having the same abilities. There is a reason why Jedi can (generally speaking) not produce force lightning, for instance. That would require a different way of using the force than a Jedi is capable of or trained to do. This is just one example of where powers differ drastically.
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They 100% can be both, the thing to take in is that both Sith and Jedi are to a hard bluntness, just buzzwords, if we take in that both have the same abilities regardless of dark or light, then really all the major difference is at the end is one side is seen as good and the other is bad but thats literally it, heck whether you die good or bad you still become part of the force so at the end it literally does not matter if one is Sith or Jedi xD

I'm by no means a lore expert on Star Wars, but there are lots of gross simplifications here and flat out inaccuracies. I will just say, it's impossible to be both Jedi and Sith (obviously) just as it's impossible to be both Christian and Pagan IRL. They are conflicting philosophies and following one restricts your use of the force to that specific mindset. You are also wrong about them having the same abilities. There is a reason why Jedi can (generally speaking) not produce force lightning, for instance. That would require a different way of using the force than a Jedi is capable of or trained to do. This is just one example of where powers differ drastically.
Your right but as I said, its the Yin and the Yang thing prior, there are those that are Grey, or basically midrange but if I recall they are from simply stories and I have no context on them, if I recall the Infinite Empire were the ones to first have a few Grey Force users but then again the Infinite empire was at a level of technology it made the current tech in the movies look cavemen level so it is what it is there.

I would say there should be a middle of the road, simply in the context of those that are neither jedi nor sith, I know that may never happen but I can actually see just some people not wanting to be in either side or their war and wanting to stay neutral but I dont think that has any effect to start with and still comes down to emotions right?
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Your right but as I said, its the Yin and the Yang thing prior, there are those that are Grey, or basically midrange but if I recall they are from simply stories and I have no context on them, if I recall the Infinite Empire were the ones to first have a few Grey Force users but then again the Infinite empire was at a level of technology it made the current tech in the movies look cavemen level so it is what it is there.

I would say there should be a middle of the road, simply in the context of those that are neither jedi nor sith, I know that may never happen but I can actually see just some people not wanting to be in either side or their war and wanting to stay neutral but I dont think that has any effect to start with and still comes down to emotions right?
Not sure I agree with the Yin and Yang analogy. Yin and Yang is basically two opposites existing in harmony. Jedi and Sith are fundamentally different philosophies and there definitely is no harmony between them, lol.

As for the grey Jedi thing, I find it quite mundane. From what I can tell, they are essentially Jedi who distance themselves from the council and their teachings, but also somehow manage to resist becoming corrupted by the dark side. So, they're still light side followers but they reject the Jedi code and their teachings. Therefore, your argument that they're this "middle of the road" choice is inaccurate, they're still on the side of light, just not dogmatic.
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Your right but as I said, its the Yin and the Yang thing prior, there are those that are Grey, or basically midrange but if I recall they are from simply stories and I have no context on them, if I recall the Infinite Empire were the ones to first have a few Grey Force users but then again the Infinite empire was at a level of technology it made the current tech in the movies look cavemen level so it is what it is there.

I would say there should be a middle of the road, simply in the context of those that are neither jedi nor sith, I know that may never happen but I can actually see just some people not wanting to be in either side or their war and wanting to stay neutral but I dont think that has any effect to start with and still comes down to emotions right?
Not sure I agree with the Yin and Yang analogy. Yin and Yang is basically two opposites existing in harmony. Jedi and Sith are fundamentally different philosophies and there definitely is no harmony between them, lol.

As for the grey Jedi thing, I find it quite mundane. From what I can tell, they are essentially Jedi who distance themselves from the council and their teachings, but also somehow manage to resist becoming corrupted by the dark side. So, they're still light side followers but they reject the Jedi code and their teachings. Therefore, your argument that they're this "middle of the road" choice is inaccurate, they're still on the side of light, just not dogmatic.
Fair enough I dont know all that much on Star wars lore myself but you provided valid points to what I said at least heh, Idk what else to say on this beyond that the Infinity Empire had a really cool shipyard xD
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Not sure I agree with the Yin and Yang analogy. Yin and Yang is basically two opposites existing in harmony. Jedi and Sith are fundamentally different philosophies and there definitely is no harmony between them, lol.

As for the grey Jedi thing, I find it quite mundane. From what I can tell, they are essentially Jedi who distance themselves from the council and their teachings, but also somehow manage to resist becoming corrupted by the dark side. So, they're still light side followers but they reject the Jedi code and their teachings. Therefore, your argument that they're this "middle of the road" choice is inaccurate, they're still on the side of light, just not dogmatic.
Fair enough I dont know all that much on Star wars lore myself but you provided valid points to what I said at least heh, Idk what else to say on this beyond that the Infinity Empire had a really cool shipyard xD
There are also these guys, the grey jedi I was referring to. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight?so=search
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It's funny to see people who think that because something happened since "forever" that makes it "natural" and can't be stopped. Well, if everyone always thought like that you'd still be in caves.
You say that yet humanity still cant stop killing each other so at this point its literally natural until it stops entirely which it has yet to.

Of course, when you belive it's "natural" it has to keep going.
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