Are the sith right?

[Lora Grim]

Is peace truly a lie? Are emotions destined to rule us forever? Is power the only thing that can free us?

[シ DatRadCat ツ]

Denying or attempting to utterly control emotion, Revan felt, was a fool’s game. Jealousy was actually the result of ill-prepared Jedi being overwhelmed by feelings they had never learned to face. Revan believed Jedi could be taught to use positive emotions like love and happiness to strengthen their connection to the Force in the same way that hatred and anger gave power to those who followed the dark side.


He no longer clung to the simplistic ideals of right and wrong or good and evil. He understood better than anyone that dark and light were intertwined in strange and complex ways.

“Peace is a lie; there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength.” The words came easily; the mantra had been drilled into his brain during his training until it was second nature. “Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken.”

- Revan

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[Ice Robertson]

My take on it is just that as long as someone has what someone else wants there will be conflict.

Or lunatic leaders that have lost their mind and practice their schizophrenia on the world.

[76561198356019466]

are a made up group of people in a fantasy story right? probably not. :P

then again, a lot of people turn to the bible for advice.

[Apollyon]

Messaggio originale di シ DatRadCat ツ:

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Tbh, Revan was a fool. He definitely wasn't a true Sith, despite becoming DLOTS for a time. He always seemed like more of a grey Jedi to me.

[Here is my card]

Somehow I have liked the... mythology and lore of the Force, light and dark side, Jedis and Siths. Now, at the older age, I don't care so much of Star Wars and its lore or neverending series and movies and all that anymore, but when I was a kid and there was only Episodes IV, V, VI, it was something.

Actually I think mr. G. L. was on a right track or hit a perfect homerun when began to create the story around the fairy tale it came.

Are the Jedi right? Are the Sith right? Irrelevant.

Both can be seen as good or bad, depending on a point of view and how you think about it. Power? They both use power. And enforce things too. I believe mr. G. L. was after this originally in his train of thought. Now the whole... lore is blown apart out and Jedi and Sith backgrounds exaggerated so vast and far that... no one can keep it clear and aligned. All those games, books, comics, cartoons, movies, series - Christmas specials that are made after the 1977 and from the hundreds of writers... phew and blah 😓. I dare to make a bet, that once they were exactly "the same" ( I really don't know, if it has already been written, which is probable, but yes...) The Same. The Same JEDISITH or SIDIJETH or JODISETH or just plain "Forcefuls" 😁 who became Jedi and Sith through disagreements and such. That is just basic storytelling.

So lies, peace, power, emotions, eternity... freedom in Star Wars?... 🤷 I dunno. Take a pick.

[L1qu1dator]

It's funny to see people who think that because something happened since "forever" that makes it "natural" and can't be stopped. Well, if everyone always thought like that you'd still be in caves.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di L1qu1dator:

It's funny to see people who think that because something happened since "forever" that makes it "natural" and can't be stopped. Well, if everyone always thought like that you'd still be in caves.

You say that yet humanity still cant stop killing each other so at this point its literally natural until it stops entirely which it has yet to.

[Funky Monk]

I’m more confused on why the Dark Side is considered “evil”

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di Funky Monk:

I’m more confused on why the Dark Side is considered “evil”

Look up Sith Pure Bloods, it basically delves into the history of the Sith-race before they became part of the force, ya they were an entire race, a very warlike race..

[Funky Monk]

Messaggio originale di Shizune:

Messaggio originale di Funky Monk:

I’m more confused on why the Dark Side is considered “evil”

Look up Sith Pure Bloods, it basically delves into the history of the Sith-race before they became part of the force, ya they were an entire race, a very warlike race..

I know that the sith were originially just an alien species. My question is why is the Dark Side of the force considered as bad/evil

[Jonathan Sensei]

The jedi code and sith code are basically yin and yang from Chinese cosmology.

Now, the grey jedi code is where it gets interesting:

"There must be both dark and light. I will do what I must to keep the balance, as the balance is what holds all life. There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish. There is passion, yet peace; serenity, yet emotion; chaos, yet order."

That to me is right; the sith are not.

[Apollyon]

Messaggio originale di Mattmoo:

Not really. He may have fooled himself for a short time thinking he was actually a Sith, but it didn’t take him more than a year I bet, to realize that wasn’t really what he was.

So yes, I guess he is a Grey Jedi. I wouldn’t say he was a fool though.

Well, you might disagree if you take into account his history. He started as a Jedi of great influence, who chose to defy the council and go to war against the Mandalorians, corrupting himself and many other Jedi knights in the process. As DLOTS, he put himself in a position where his apprentice Malak could betray him and then got captured by the Jedi, who proceeded to brainwash him back to his old Jedi self. The main gripe I have with this character is that he's all over the place. At one point he's a hero who goes to war for the Republic, then he returns as a Sith Lord to destroy that which he set out to protect in the first place. And finally, he comes back as the good guy again and undoes his own work for the third time.

That's enough for me to consider him weak and foolish, but if you need further convincing, he also got annihilated by Vitiate. Like I said, he was never a true Sith, despite wearing the mantle. His personal philosophy confirms that.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di Funky Monk:

Messaggio originale di Shizune:

Look up Sith Pure Bloods, it basically delves into the history of the Sith-race before they became part of the force, ya they were an entire race, a very warlike race..

I know that the sith were originially just an alien species. My question is why is the Dark Side of the force considered as bad/evil

The thing is, its not evil, to be fundimentally the Force and Sith are the same thing, but its more akin to the Jedi VS the Sith, if we take it in that context, then its properly..

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force

Light Side of the Force is defined as positive emotional use of the Force
Dark side is defiend as the evil use or dark emotional use of it.

If we take for example Emperor Palp, his anger and rage is dark, compared to the always rather calm and collective Yoda who would be light.

In effect everyone has both in them but like the Yin and Yang, one cant be both, one is either Yang, or Yin.

[Rio]

The light seems to not be about emotions at all. If it was fine with em Ani would have no worry about marrying. Instead we got darth vader

[Funky Monk]

Messaggio originale di Shizune:

Messaggio originale di Funky Monk:

I know that the sith were originially just an alien species. My question is why is the Dark Side of the force considered as bad/evil

The thing is, its not evil, to be fundimentally the Force and Sith are the same thing, but its more akin to the Jedi VS the Sith, if we take it in that context, then its properly..

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force

Light Side of the Force is defined as positive emotional use of the Force
Dark side is defiend as the evil use or dark emotional use of it.

If we take for example Emperor Palp, his anger and rage is dark, compared to the always rather calm and collective Yoda who would be light.

In effect everyone has both in them but like the Yin and Yang, one cant be both, one is either Yang, or Yin.

I think they can be both, we have grey jedis after all