snes is better than sega genesis.

[Jellyfish]

the snes is just superior, the sound is better, the graphics are better, the games are better, the controllers are better. can the genesis handle 3D graphics? i dont think so. nintendoes what genesis dont.

"While the Sega Genesis had a CPU advantage — leading to the "Blast Processing" ad campaign — the SNES outclassed Sega in terms of power. Without getting too much into numbers, the SNES could produce more colors on the screen at once. Sprites could be bigger, and it could produce a higher resolution. In short, games looked and ran better on the SNES compared to the Genesis, and it was noticeable." -GameRant

heres some 3D games that the genesis cant handle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICtLp5JcMY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3TydpBzUy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9XZYwqOpLs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkVHxE0Y8I

and heres some bonus footage of the snes being superior to the sega genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bCK-qGwJB8

[Good Night Owl]

I didn't have a SNES, I had Genesis, and that objectively makes it better.

[deadshooter]

lol, a 27-year old holywar

[gugnihr]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Good Night Owl:

I didn't have a SNES, I had Genesis, and that objectively makes it better.

I didn't have a SNes and I didn't have a Genesis / MD, I had an Amiga and back then I was so envious of both those consoles, but after many, many years when they released the mini versions of those old consoles I only bought the Mega Drive, and there is a very good reason why I decided to only buy the Mega Drive.
Two reasons actualy.
1) The Mega Drive is just better, has better games. Nintendo first party games on the SNes were just disappointing. As a child I believed that Mario had to be amazing, because everybody talked about it so much. When I tried Super Mario World I was so disappointed, lol. Super Mario Land 2 is a great game, Super Mario Bros 3 is a very good game, Super Mario World?... meh... I would have been so mad if I bought a SNes to play it as a kid...
2) There are some third party games on the Snes that I like a lot and that could have convinced me to buy the SNes mini MAYBE, but they just left out most of them.
But honestly the Mega Drive mini for me would have been better anyway.
There has never been on the SNes any game that could be on par with Sonic 1 + Golden Axe 1.
You can pick two SNes games, 5 SNes games, 10 SNes games, it does not matter how many of them, it does not matter which ones, SEGA had Sonic 1 and Golden Axe 1, Nintendo didn't have that.

[gugnihr]

Diposting pertama kali oleh deadshooter:

lol, a 27-year old holywar

This just shows you how much better exclusives were back then.

[permanent name]

That’s probably why sega was sold to a yakuza holding company.

[Ulfrinn]

I've owned both. I know a lot about the technical details and electronics engineering behind both, and I regularly play and stream both on a near daily basis, so I can give a pretty accurate run-down of the two.

Graphics-wise, not counting co-processors, the SNES had better color depth for sure. The Sega Genesis though usually ran at smoother frame rates, and had a wider resolution (256x224 for SNES, 320x224 for Genesis) meaning the Sega was higher resolution, but not as good at colors. Not really a huge advantage to one or the other.

For audio, I could call this a tie. Genesis had some great sounding soundtracks, like Sonic 2, Thunderforce, Streets of Rage, etc, but most of it just ended up sounding like farting robots. SNES has great soundtracks too like FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, but most of the rest of the library sounded like it was being played through a wet sock.

Star Fox and other FX chipped games had additional chips on the cartridge that normal games did not have. These pushed capabilities beyond what the SNES could do. Sega did something similar, but offered the co-processor as a one-time cost attachment in the 32x.

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So hardware for hardware it's pretty much a tie. However, when it comes to software, I don't think anyone in their right mind could say the Genesis had a better library. In that regard, the comparison isn't even close.

[permanent name]

Genesis had a much better audio chip.

[Jellyfish]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gugnihr:

the Mega Drive

SEGA GENESIS

[Jellyfish]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gugnihr:

PS: I think that the Mega Drive can handle 3D better than the SNes. All the games with 3D effects on the SNes used an additional chip on the cartridges, but I think that the Mega Drive could do that without additional chips.

can you please link to some of these "better" 3D graphics on the SEGA GENESIS.

[Jellyfish]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ulfrinn:

For audio, I could call this a tie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAc3nYEatw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5aeisPAzM4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjCGL7e0c0
these tracks are from dkc and dkc2 on the snes, these audios are not restored or modified in any way, this is what these songs actually sound like on real snes hardware. (trust me i used to play these games on a real snes, not an emulator.), these 3 songs ALONE are 100% more beautiful, higher quality, and just BETTER than every song on the sega genesis, seriously. try to find a more beautiful song than these on the sega genesis, its impossible. it aint a tie, the snes wins when it comes to audio.

[Jellyfish]

Diposting pertama kali oleh permanent name:

Genesis had a much better audio chip.

no it didint, im just gonna let these songs from dkc and dkc2 on the snes do the talking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAc3nYEatw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjCGL7e0c0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5aeisPAzM4

btw these arent restored or anything, this is what these songs sound like on real snes hardware.

[Jellyfish]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ⛧:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Soniaa ♡:

both are ancient garbages

Still had good music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRyt7Xjh84

dont get me wrong, the genesis had good music, but the snes had better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAc3nYEatw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjCGL7e0c0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5aeisPAzM4

[Jellyfish]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gugnihr:

And since I know many people love Zelda so much I want to remind you (and reveal this secret to those who don't know yet) that the best 16 bit Zelda game is on the Genesis / Mega Drive :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT8NTxTp0XU

no your wrong, the best 16 bit zelda game is link to the past, can that sega genesis trash do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTuaVEh50s8

and it just so happens that its on the snes :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hjG6MCcZ8

[Devsman]

On the whole, sure, but the Genesis was still very much worth playing.

The sound thing is up for debate. They SNES tried to recreate real sounds more faithfully but fell flat on its face tbh because the quality was just so damn bad. Just try to find me a SNES game with vocals you can understand. The Genesis had some of this capability too but tended to use almost exclusively synth audio, which is good in its own way and certainly has higher fidelity.

The graphics thing is also up for debate, for the same reason. The Super FX chip did have some capabilities the Genesis couldn't match (see: Yoshi's Island; F-Zero) but the full 3D was so bad hardly anyone tried to use it. Meanwhile, the Genesis was locked in at 2D but sported a much higher resolution.

So really they both have their pros and cons, and are both great platforms. So what it comes down to for me is two factors:

Libraries. On SNES, you had Mario, Donkey Kong Country, Super Metroid, more Mega Man games, more Square (did Genesis have any?), F-Zero, Kirby, ALttP, Top Gear--just about the only genre with underwhelming presence was the shooter genre, and it's not like those were non-existent either. And all of these genres had several games of really good quality. On Genesis, you had Sonic, Vectorman, Ristar, Phantasy Star, Streets of Rage, Beyond Oasis, and I guess Shining Force and Ecco. Nothing else really interested me (or was fun to play). Mostly games that did have a neat twist but didn't turn out as well as their SNES counterparts. You also didn't have as strong showings in the genres I generally like--for example, I can't name a single Genesis racer.

Colors. One thing I usually don't hear as a point of debate but seemed super obvious to me is that color palettes on the Genesis (and the TG-16 for that matter) tended to look a lot better than on the SNES. This shouldn't be a thing at a technical level, as the SNES beats Genesis by the numbers here, so maybe it's just a stylistic thing? I'm not sure. In any case, you had much more colorful palettes in most Genesis games than in most SNES games.

But overall, a game with better colors that isn't as fun to actually play, isn't as good of a game.

So while I can respect the Genesis for being a great system--and do have a number of Genesis games I really like, I gotta give it to the SNES.

[GlaceonChireiden]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gugnihr:

And since I know many people love Zelda so much I want to remind you (and reveal this secret to those who don't know yet) that the best 16 bit Zelda game is on the Genesis / Mega Drive :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT8NTxTp0XU

Zelda with actual platforming huh? I'm interested. Zelda is neat but felt kind of samey after awhile with how limiting your movement was.
Please tell me this game isn't that hard to get through legal means and they have it as part of the sega ages switch collection or something.