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Jellyfish 5 marca 2023 o 12:57
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snes is better than sega genesis.
the snes is just superior, the sound is better, the graphics are better, the games are better, the controllers are better. can the genesis handle 3D graphics? i dont think so. nintendoes what genesis dont.

"While the Sega Genesis had a CPU advantage — leading to the "Blast Processing" ad campaign — the SNES outclassed Sega in terms of power. Without getting too much into numbers, the SNES could produce more colors on the screen at once. Sprites could be bigger, and it could produce a higher resolution. In short, games looked and ran better on the SNES compared to the Genesis, and it was noticeable." -GameRant

heres some 3D games that the genesis cant handle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICtLp5JcMY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3TydpBzUy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9XZYwqOpLs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkVHxE0Y8I

and heres some bonus footage of the snes being superior to the sega genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bCK-qGwJB8
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funewchie 6 marca 2023 o 8:47 
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genesis > snes for 1 simple fact alone. better EA sports games.
wow ea sports? the same garbage unoriginal sport games that are released like every 2 months? that definitely makes the sega genesis better than the snes!

As opposed to remakes of antique NES games (All-Stars), and an outsourced 2D sidescrolling platformer that even the series own creator didn't like (DKC)?

(And yes, it's strictly 2D. They just used higher quality sprites, but that's all)

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so your saying these songs arent amazing?
*Redacted*

Stop posting those same 3 songs!

Aquatic was plain and basic, just fill the space and leaves. Nothing more.
Stickerbrush wasn't even originally for that stage. It was going to be the underwater song before Aquatic replaced it.

Gangplank is okay, but it wasn't until Smash Bros version that it became good.

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I think we should all band together and get jelly some new material so he stops posting the same 3 songs

I know! That's starting to get on my nerves.
He could at least try other games in the library.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: funewchie; 6 marca 2023 o 8:54
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the snes should be better as it's also several years newer

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Genesis had a much better audio chip.

maybe if you're into yamaha fm synthesis and techno but by most standards the snes pcm chip was more realistic sounding and more modern technology

Is that why it was limited to 1 channel playback with doubling for stereo?
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Ok,

Outrun snes
https://youtu.be/0Od2QQvRxxk

Outrun genesis
https://youtu.be/cIbrCtjviZ0

Fantastic dizzy
https://youtu.be/bQGJWIi2n14

Stormlord
https://youtu.be/jJPfbnFTS6g

Beyond oasis
https://youtu.be/YwXnmvW4Vl8
lol if you think Fantastic dizzy looks good you clearly have never seen super mario all stars or yoshis island on snes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNl6WJygciw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8btNneN8ew

Dynamite Heddy

https://youtu.be/9y8UfNFdxGM
RRW359 6 marca 2023 o 9:17 
Base consoles SNES was better graphics-wise but there actually were one or two 3d games like that one Mig-29 game or the F-22 game; while the SNES could do 2d and fake 3d a lot better I don't think it was capable of actual polygons. Also if you are going to bring up the FX chip I have to mention the SVP as a counter which was more powerful, and even though I 100% understand why they were hated at the time the 32x and the SCD (which in addition to CD's gave the Genesis better 2d/quasi-3d capabilities then the SNES) are more interesting for collectors. Also backwards compatibility isn't often talked about and it's something the Genesis could do natively with a first-party add-on while the SNES just had a bunch of third-party NES emulation add-ons.
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I think we should all band together and get jelly some new material so he stops posting the same 3 songs
oh trust me, i have more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cOvQT9l6CE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hBF1WZeT_M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJRtN43kKDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf0Zs_gaEtc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJJk9Zk2h_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjeVc6aYhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85u34SUh05Y
Now we just need to get you to stop posting the links at all and just tell us the names of the songs
Surely you realize how annoying it is to constantly have to scroll past the same 3 songs posted 5 times
Jellyfish 6 marca 2023 o 9:21 
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lol if you think Fantastic dizzy looks good you clearly have never seen super mario all stars or yoshis island on snes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNl6WJygciw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8btNneN8ew

Dynamite Heddy

https://youtu.be/9y8UfNFdxGM
the games i mentioned are still better.
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Dynamite Heddy

https://youtu.be/9y8UfNFdxGM
the games i mentioned are still better.

These flagship nintendo games struggle to compete with borderline noname genesis games.
Jellyfish 6 marca 2023 o 9:27 
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the games i mentioned are still better.

These flagship nintendo games struggle to compete with borderline noname genesis games.
what are you on about? no one has ever heard of dynamite Headdy, but most people who are over the age of 5 have heard about donkey kong or super mario world.
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These flagship nintendo games struggle to compete with borderline noname genesis games.
what are you on about? no one has ever heard of dynamite Headdy, but most people who are over the age of 5 have heard about donkey kong or super mario world.

More children have heard of dynamite heddy than played dkc or the most disappointing mario game.
Jellyfish 6 marca 2023 o 9:29 
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what are you on about? no one has ever heard of dynamite Headdy, but most people who are over the age of 5 have heard about donkey kong or super mario world.

More children have heard of dynamite heddy than played dkc or the most disappointing mario game.
yeah this dude is definitely trolling lol.
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More children have heard of dynamite heddy than played dkc or the most disappointing mario game.
yeah this dude is definitely trolling lol.

I’m sorry; in recent polls where children were showb footage of each game dynamite heddy was almost 70% more popular.

By recently I mean 2014. Idk where the study is anymore.
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the snes should be better as it's also several years newer



maybe if you're into yamaha fm synthesis and techno but by most standards the snes pcm chip was more realistic sounding and more modern technology

Is that why it was limited to 1 channel playback with doubling for stereo?

Not sure where you heard that??

The snes had 8 channels of pcm sample playback and the selection of onboard samples were more suited for a general palette of sounds.

Don't get me wrong by todays standards the snes sounds like a cheap home keyboard and the megadrive sound chip can do lots of interesting synthesis and in the right hands could sit well in experimental and electronic music but it's not the general purpose synth that people wanted in 1990 fm technology was considered old hat.

You sound a little bias towards the megadrive I might add the commodore amiga sound chip only had 4 channels but blows both the megadrive and the snes out the water
RRW359 6 marca 2023 o 9:37 
Were there any SNES games that had actual polygonal 3d without the FX chip? There were a couple Genesis games that were 3d without the SVP.
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Is that why it was limited to 1 channel playback with doubling for stereo?

Not sure where you heard that??

The snes had 8 channels of pcm sample playback and the selection of onboard samples were more suited for a general palette of sounds.

Don't get me wrong by todays standards the snes sounds like a cheap home keyboard and the megadrive sound chip can do lots of interesting synthesis and in the right hands could sit well in experimental and electronic music but it's not the general purpose synth that people wanted in 1990 fm technology was considered old hat.

You sound a little bias towards the megadrive I might add the commodore amiga sound chip only had 4 channels but blows both the megadrive and the snes out the water

The snes could not mix channels and instead played 8 bit sounds one on each channel. It’s a mono chip lacking even the most basic audio framework. It’s outclassed by a grammophone.

The amiga chip is strictly inferior to the genesis, but there was a culture of interested developers.

Nintendo sniped most of the devs SEGA was training on their dev environment and then forced them to use their 8-key playskool piano instead.
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