Why does the US still have those TV censorship laws?

[Dom]

In the land of the free, this does seem to be somewhat of a contradiction. "Profane" words get censored, even the middle finger gets censored. Broadcasters under FCC are required to pay hundreds of thousands (max $375,000) every time a profane word is aired.

This is interesting because we live in 21st century and it shouldn't be controversial that sometimes people swear in some situations. Not always - but sometimes. For example in my country, no word gets ever censored regardless of what time of the day it is aired. Even nudity is completely fine to air. So we have very liberal laws when it comes to broadcasting.

I've also noticed that many children and teenagers swear a lot in the US. More so than doesn't. This seems to indicate that these laws have very little effect nowadays. Some may say that they have the opposite effect - when children hear *beep*, they are more interested in wanting to know what it is, and use the "prohibited" word, since children are very rebellious in nature.

Has it come the time to repeal these TV censorship laws? What are your thoughts?

[Ulfrinn]

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This isn't being defensive, it's proving you wrong, and all I had to do to prove you wrong was ask you to elaborate on your allegedly held position on the matter. And then you started with the derogatory comments and insults over the fact I am American.

Nah, you didn't prove me wrong.
You just didn't know what obscenity is, it seems, so you had to google FCC website.
The rest of us can likely figure out what that stands for based on witnessing what gets censored and what does not.

I got the website for you to look at since the FCC is the governing body on the matter of television censorship. I gave you exactly the information you asked for.

[CinnamonApples]

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Every time you speak profanity, an American loses a gun and freedom.

good there are 120 guns for every 100 people

[Dom]

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Thank you.
Though, it wasn't me asking what obscenity is, that was 100% you.
So, consume that information yourself and let's carry on.

And I pointed out in clear detail what specifically the FCC actually censors, and your cuss words aren't it. Networks choose not to have that crap on their shows, that's their choice.

Section 1468(a), “[w]hoever knowingly utters any obscene language or distributes any obscene matter by means of cable television or subscription services on television, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or by a fine in accordance with this title, or both.” Likewise, under 47 U.S.C.
Profane content includes "grossly offensive" language that is considered a public nuisance.

I know we can cherry-pick this thing forever but I do have my sincere understanding that if TV channels did broadcast cuss words, they'd be fined to oblivion under these various sections.

It's ok if you don't believe that.
Still restricting free speeh tho, in any case.

[Ulfrinn]

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Цитата допису Ulfrinn:

And I pointed out in clear detail what specifically the FCC actually censors, and your cuss words aren't it. Networks choose not to have that crap on their shows, that's their choice.

Section 1468(a), “[w]hoever knowingly utters any obscene language or distributes any obscene matter by means of cable television or subscription services on television, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or by a fine in accordance with this title, or both.” Likewise, under 47 U.S.C.
Profane content includes "grossly offensive" language that is considered a public nuisance.

I know we can cherry-pick this thing forever but I do have my sincere understanding that if TV channels did broadcast cuss words, they'd be fined to oblivion under these various sections.

It's ok if you don't believe that.
Still restricting free speeh tho, in any case.

Uh huh, and then I quoted the later part of that article where they describe what they consider "obscene language" to be.

[Dom]

I'm just going to block Mr. Ulf now and move on.

It seems to me that the person has come to this thread to troll and derail it, in hopes to get it removed from Steam. I know I should not feed the trolls as much.

[Dom]

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Also, yeah, kids will eventually learn these "bad" words in school. And since in the greater societal context, profanity seems taboo, they don't get to know a healthy use and end up becoming complete and utter potty-mouths.

No wonder America is regarded as a prude, but hypocritical and mentally insane society.

The thing is, if profanities are not being censored, children won't see them as something prohibited and they will actually use them less. Children like to break boundaries and rules.

There's some evidence to show that children have started to behave better after the countries repealing profanity laws. Yes, they may occasionally use cuss words like the society around them does but it will not be constant, like it is in places where it's a taboo.

[Ulfrinn]

Цитата допису Dom:

I'm just going to block Mr. Ulf now and move on.

It seems to me that the person has come to this thread to troll and derail it, in hopes to get it removed from Steam. I know I should not feed the trolls as much.

Derail it by giving you the relevant information by the governing body that determined what is, or is not considered obscene on American television, thus showing the narrative in your open thread to be based on a false premise?

I don't think it could be any more obvious that you knew you started this thread on a false premise, and you did it in hopes of offending the American users here on Steam by cherry-picking something you could try to use to talk down to them about. You even just tried to claim teleivision channels would be "fined to oblivion" if they had cusswords while anyone here who has seen American television know it's full of cusswords, inuendos, nudity, sexually suggestive content, etc.

Has anyone here ever seen Family Guy or South Park?

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

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Also, yeah, kids will eventually learn these "bad" words in school. And since in the greater societal context, profanity seems taboo, they don't get to know a healthy use and end up becoming complete and utter potty-mouths.

No wonder America is regarded as a prude, but hypocritical and mentally insane society.

The thing is, if profanities are not being censored, children won't see them as something prohibited and they will actually use them less. Children like to break boundaries and rules.

There's some evidence to show that children have started to behave better after the countries repealing profanity laws. Yes, they may occasionally use cuss words like the society around them does but it will not be constant, like it is in places where it's a taboo.

O yeah there is nothing like a 7 years old saying mf what up, to his classmate and teacher you b leave me alone I got sh get of my d.They sure as hell to be looking to finishing their education, and not get involved with drugs and bands latter. Upgrade to bum status of talk is the way to go as early as possible. Muh freedum of speech but only applied to things that left politic/ans status qou, it want to lead and not anything that breaks it.

[Dom]

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anyone here who has seen American television know it's full of cusswords, inuendos, nudity, sexually suggestive content, etc.

So, can we at least agree that if they know that, so certainly and clearly, then they can probably speak for themselves in this thread? And surely they wouldn't have any idea what I'm taking about here then, and couldn't relate to my text at all? Seems like a fair deal.

This is my last response to you. Have a good rest of the weekend, Ulfrinn.

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you can say "♥♥♥♥" now.
when I was a kid you couldn't even say "fart".

[Ulfrinn]

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Цитата допису Ulfrinn:

anyone here who has seen American television know it's full of cusswords, inuendos, nudity, sexually suggestive content, etc.

So, can we at least agree that if they know that, so certainly and clearly, then they can probably speak for themselves in this thread? And surely they wouldn't have any idea what I'm taking about here then, and couldn't relate to my text at all? Seems like a fair deal.

This is my last response to you. Have a good rest of the weekend, Ulfrinn.

I don't think anyone here has an idea of what you are talking about because you just said if networks aired cusswords they'd be "fined to oblivion" and people who watch American television know that simply is not true.

[Dom]

The obscenity in my opinion should at the very least be protected by US constitution. Since it is, at the moment, an exception to the constitutional right.

It just isn't right that the government can begin to impose censorship on the basis of what it considers "obscene", since that in itself is subject to a lot of subjectivity.

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We have a channel here in the usa called IFC that don't censor any of the movies they show. They leave in all the swearing and all the nudity and all the gore. And they don't edit the movie for time.

[kilésengati]

Цитата допису Dom:

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Also, yeah, kids will eventually learn these "bad" words in school. And since in the greater societal context, profanity seems taboo, they don't get to know a healthy use and end up becoming complete and utter potty-mouths.

No wonder America is regarded as a prude, but hypocritical and mentally insane society.

The thing is, if profanities are not being censored, children won't see them as something prohibited and they will actually use them less. Children like to break boundaries and rules.

There's some evidence to show that children have started to behave better after the countries repealing profanity laws. Yes, they may occasionally use cuss words like the society around them does but it will not be constant, like it is in places where it's a taboo.

Exactly. Having profanity in media doesn't make little children more full of ♥♥♥♥ than they already are.

[Ulfrinn]

Цитата допису Dom:

The obscenity in my opinion should at the very least be protected by US constitution. Since it is, at the moment, an exception to the constitutional right.

It just isn't right that the government can begin to impose censorship on the basis of what it considers "obscene", since that in itself is subject to a lot of subjectivity.

The obscenity you're speaking of, restricted by the FCC, that you want protected by the US 1st Amendment is tantamount to pornography. And more Americans would rather not have that on their television than the number of people who thinks it should be protected. The American people have already decided.