Jesus loves you

[Dawido]

Reminder that Jesus loves you and will always be here with you

[Vince ✟]

Jesus Christ is my King.

On the daily I turn away from it all. I constantly blaspheme my creator. I moan and complain abouty life and show little gratitude. I've become cold and don't go as much as I did to fellowship with my brethren. I don't pray enough. I don't care enough. I'm not enough.

I'm thankful that Jesus is enough. He is why I am a wretched human being and still saved through his grace.

[skOsH♥]

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Man, I really cannot stand such ignorance. You study this at elementary school. Once again, we suppose religion was created as a "science" to justify unknown natural events. But it's prehistory. Prehistory goes from the cave man.

Archology has also found old villages dated to prehistory with tombs and tools, making you suppose that some kind of religious ritual was also done during prehistory.

As we enter history, through writing, religion does evolve.

It's not rituals or "science" but also morality.

I have already said this and I'm not gonna repeat it. You study these things at school.

Bingo

A lot of it is life and death and moral related, 100%

God of Ra, for instance. Or the gods the Mayans used to explain death. Or really any culture. They all have their own practices. It's not necessarily religion or anything

Does burying in a box count as religion? Mummification?

[agu]

I personally think you should only see religion as a basis for your own personal moral values and as a way of keeping hope or dealing with hardships. You can't underestimate the power of faith in times where nothing goes right, be it faith in God, Allah, or Superman, at the end of the day what matters is looking forward to a brighter future.

[Grynn]

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Why?

Why not? Are you unlovable?

No. Just curious what the reason is considering I think religion is a failed experiment invented by ignorant goat herders and also deny the existence of his own father.

[Vince ✟]

You can taste the teenage angst in the air here...

[MinionJoe]

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Why not? Are you unlovable?

No. Just curious what the reason is considering I think religion is a failed experiment invented by ignorant goat herders and also deny the existence of his own father.

Sheep herders.

The Abrahamic religions would be a LOT different if it was created by goat herders.

Because sheep are lead. Goats have to be taught.

[agu]

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Why not? Are you unlovable?

No. Just curious what the reason is considering I think religion is a failed experiment invented by ignorant goat herders and also deny the existence of his own father.

I would hardly call it failed considering the relevance they still have thousands of years later, not like the mainstream ones were the first to do it but still, I believe the reason for loving someone like you would be a catch-all like "Jesus loves everyone equally no matter how much they love him back", but that's not a very satisfying answer...

[Grynn]

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Publicado originalmente por Grynn:

No. Just curious what the reason is considering I think religion is a failed experiment invented by ignorant goat herders and also deny the existence of his own father.

I would hardly call it failed considering the relevance they still have thousands of years later, not like the mainstream ones were the first to do it but still, I believe the reason for loving someone like you would be a catch-all like "Jesus loves everyone equally no matter how much they love him back", but that's not a very satisfying answer...

People who love everyone equally don't know what love is.

Over the years they turned Jesus into the human embodiment of altruism to an almost delusional level.

[Vince ✟]

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I would hardly call it failed considering the relevance they still have thousands of years later, not like the mainstream ones were the first to do it but still, I believe the reason for loving someone like you would be a catch-all like "Jesus loves everyone equally no matter how much they love him back", but that's not a very satisfying answer...

People who love everyone equally don't know what love is.

Over the years they turned Jesus into the human embodiment of altruism to an almost delusional level.

God ain't "people" lol.


It's hard to convince a crying kicking 2 yr old that you love them. It takes time and for some, even when loved unconditionally the child still deals with their own mind and emotional issues, and be thankful that you are not forced to accept and return said love. You do you if you like. Hateful as it is.

[Not Big Surprise]

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No. Just curious what the reason is considering I think religion is a failed experiment invented by ignorant goat herders and also deny the existence of his own father.

I would hardly call it failed considering the relevance they still have thousands of years later, not like the mainstream ones were the first to do it but still, I believe the reason for loving someone like you would be a catch-all like "Jesus loves everyone equally no matter how much they love him back", but that's not a very satisfying answer...

it may have succeeded to cling to society for a long while, but it remains a flawed concept, as it requires blind faith and suspension of disbelief

it establishes "indisputable truths" based purely on the ideas of people centuries ago, and it locks you into those beliefs, as any criticism of the religion must be a product of being misguided even if you can't properly address it

[Vertigo]

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And religion was never "science". Science is science, because it uses the scientific method.

Show me one religion, that uses the scientific method instead of claims in an old book, or personal experience.

Science is ultimately limited by the fact that it can only study something that has either happened before, or has feasible evidence that is observable by living humans.

This fact leaves a lot of unanswered questions, and religion answers these questions because no evidence for science to create a basis of exists.

Everyone is limited by the fact that stuff has to happen, for it to be real, lol

None of these questions, can be answerd by religion. They just *Claim* they can. And they can't explain anything, except god did it. And that is not an explanation.

If I tell you, I made the universe, because i'm all powerfull, is that an answer? Yes.
Is it more than a Claim?
No.
Only science offers answers, with actual evidence.

[agu]

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God ain't "people" lol.

We're talking about Jesus here, different from God

[agu]

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I would hardly call it failed considering the relevance they still have thousands of years later, not like the mainstream ones were the first to do it but still, I believe the reason for loving someone like you would be a catch-all like "Jesus loves everyone equally no matter how much they love him back", but that's not a very satisfying answer...

it may have succeeded to cling to society for a long while, but it remains a flawed concept, as it requires blind faith and suspension of disbelief
it establishes "indisputable truths" based purely on the ideas of people centuries ago, and it locks you into those beliefs, as any criticism of the religion must be a product of being misguided even if you can't properly address it

I would say certain Religions also advance with time, so them being hard coded isn't really the case, you can see it today with the current Catholic church view on homosexuality, which has clearly changed from their original conception, be it from the right or wrong reasons, it is different than it was, it adapts. I agree it is very flawed for other reasons though.

[agu]

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People who love everyone equally don't know what love is.
Over the years they turned Jesus into the human embodiment of altruism to an almost delusional level.

That's true. I don't think love is an appropriate word to use here. Would you like him more if he had more flaws? I believe he was supposed to be the "good" side to God's stern and somewhat cruel attitude in the Old Testament, but I agree they made him seem too perfect.

[Not Big Surprise]

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accuracy not guaranteed

You can not create an "accurate" answer neither scientifically nor religiously because there is no evidence in either direction.

If the answer is unknowable, and logic is simply incapable of tackling the problem, the correct choice should be the one that brings the most peace of mind.

however you can approximate the real answers more and more by constantly formulating and testing out hypotheses, and that's gonna give you increasingly more accurate results compared to what a fixed, unchanging, arbitrary set of beliefs might be likely to give you

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it may have succeeded to cling to society for a long while, but it remains a flawed concept, as it requires blind faith and suspension of disbelief
it establishes "indisputable truths" based purely on the ideas of people centuries ago, and it locks you into those beliefs, as any criticism of the religion must be a product of being misguided even if you can't properly address it

I would say certain Religions also advance with time, so them being hard coded isn't really the case, you can see it today with the current Catholic church view on homosexuality, which has clearly changed from their original conception, be it from the right or wrong reasons, it is different than it was, it adapts. I agree it is very flawed for other reasons though.

i don't think reluctantly pretending to accept a group of people after a great chunk of society does, while continuing to believe they are deserving of eternal torture, counts as genuine change

moreover, if there is change, does that mean that the previous conceptions were wrong? would people dare question the word of the ultimate authority?