The Legend of Zelda - Tears of the Kingdom 70$ confirmed !

[Apexnexius]

Good News

Remember my thread about how we want our games to be more expensive?


Finally developers are beginning to listen to us.
The new upcoming Nintendo game The Legend of Zelda - Tears of the Kingdom is not releasing cheaper as some rigid gamers wanted it to do. It comes with a price tag of 70$ !

Finally. Always good to start the day with some good news (happy to share this with you).

I'm definitely picking this title up at release now.
Let's all hope that more AAA titles for both console and PC will come with a higher price tag in the future!

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

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Escrito originalmente por Incarnate:

Ditto. Couldn't care less.

Not that I would ever pay 70 bucks for a clunky game with PS2-era graphics. But to each their own.

Buying games based on graphics is just as ridiculous as paying 70.

Agreed. Tell me about the world, the gameplay, the story. Give me isometric 720p and I'll be happy if its a giant world with the wealth of interactions of Arcanum of steamworks and Magic obscura and the storytelling of something as good as Trails in the Sky. Graphics can help, but you need art direction not raw fiedlity.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

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Games stay the same price for nearly 40 years, digital distribution keeps them low for a while, but the whole world still experiences inflation.

People get surprise Pikachu faced that they go up $10.

Well yeah people would be surprised if that were the case, because they would have grown accustomed to the price, but it is not the case. Forty years ago would have been 1983, and I know that the typical M.S.R.P. of a game was to be $50[techraptor.net], which is $20 less than $50, and it stayed that way for a long time. It was like that from 1989 when the Sega Genesis was released through to to at least 2012 when the Wii U was released.

That is just a guess though. If I am right, we shall see how this pans out for them.

Okay I have to stop you, did you account for inflation? Because 50 dollars 40 years ago, uh, different thing.

[Uncle Sam]

Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8. But hey games will soon reach 3 digits in price, and sometime in the future 4 digits in price.

[TwisterCat]

Nintendo seems to think a low-effort series is worth a premium price? Why am I not surprised. It might be fun, but this company has never seemed to understand what real quality is; the features that would justify such a high price tag.

Red Dead Redemption 2 was how many millions and years into development when it released? I would have been fine if that title cost more, but you're high if you think a Zelda title is that special.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

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Nintendo seems to think a low-effort series is worth a premium price? Why am I not surprised. It might be fun, but this company has never seemed to understand what real quality is; the features that would justify such a high price tag.

Red Dead Redemption 2 was how many millions and years into development when it released? I would have been fine if that title cost more, but you're high if you think a Zelda title is that special.

Low effort? Legend of Zelda? Are you joking? Say what you will about design chocie the effort they put into that series has always been consistently amazing. This isn't the trashfire that is The Poke'mon Company. They throw Yen at the wall and do well with it. I don't know why you have such a hate boner for Nintendo but jesus, calm it down.

[TwisterCat]

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Low effort? Legend of Zelda? Are you joking? Say what you will about design chocie the effort they put into that series has always been consistently amazing. This isn't the trashfire that is The Poke'mon Company. They throw Yen at the wall and do well with it. I don't know why you have such a hate boner for Nintendo but jesus, calm it down.

Mediocre and overrated series

[Komarimaru]

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Games stay the same price for nearly 40 years, digital distribution keeps them low for a while, but the whole world still experiences inflation.

People get surprise Pikachu faced that they go up $10.

Well yeah people would be surprised if that were the case, because they would have grown accustomed to the price, but it is not the case. Forty years ago would have been 1983, and I know that the typical M.S.R.P. of a game was to be $50[techraptor.net], which is $20 less than $50, and it stayed that way for a long time. It was like that from 1989 when the Sega Genesis was released through to to at least 2012 when the Wii U was released.

Moreover, it isn't just a sudden jump from $50 to $70. It went to $60 first. It has only been 11 years since then, and during that time it looked like the price might even drop to $40. Considering that the $50 era lasted for 23 years, I do not think we were expecting another price hike for at least another decade or so.

Coronavirus lock-downs just ruined the economy, so we are experiencing inflation at somewhat of an accelerated pace. It is kind of understandable that game developers might want to try to raise the prices to keep earning a wage that maintains their standard of living in face of that. However, the fact of the matter is that in a time of need, luxuries are usually the first thing to be cut from the budget, so even $60 probably is not sustainable at the current rate of sales, so I do not think that is what is really happening.

Now lock-downs were a bit of an exception, but that is only because people found themselves with a whole bunch more free time to bide. Now that people are getting back to work they are not going to want to play games as much, so the only way this move really makes sense tome is if they anticipate losing some sales from the poorer customers and want to make up for lost volume by getting more profit per sale from the richer ones who can still afford to buy games.

They know the rich people were willing to pay triple price just for a new G.P.U. rather than wait it out for another generation, so 15% extra might not seem so far fetched to them.

That is just a guess though. If I am right, we shall see how this pans out for them.

Thanks for proving my point. $50 back in the 80's is equal to almost $150 today.

If anything, video game entertainment has stayed lower and lower as the years go on, actually being under the inflation line.

[Apexnexius]

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Red Dead Redemption 2 was how many millions and years into development when it released? I would have been fine if that title cost more, but you're high if you think a Zelda title is that special.

Well, it's The Legend of Zelda and it's pretty rad !
Those creatures from Ganon are pretty bad !

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

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Low effort? Legend of Zelda? Are you joking? Say what you will about design chocie the effort they put into that series has always been consistently amazing. This isn't the trashfire that is The Poke'mon Company. They throw Yen at the wall and do well with it. I don't know why you have such a hate boner for Nintendo but jesus, calm it down.

Mediocre and overrated series :ib_disgust:

When did we start talking about Final Fantasy?

[Valfossa]

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Low effort? Legend of Zelda? Are you joking? Say what you will about design chocie the effort they put into that series has always been consistently amazing. This isn't the trashfire that is The Poke'mon Company. They throw Yen at the wall and do well with it. I don't know why you have such a hate boner for Nintendo but jesus, calm it down.

Mediocre and overrated series :ib_disgust:

According to who?

[MoonC A T]

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Ocarina of Time came out in 1998 priced at $49.99.

If it came out today, that would be around $89.75.

I could give even earlier examples of the, such as when Ultima came out at that price much much earlier, I believe 1981. I bought a copy at Egghead software with my dad.

UItima online was $65...back in 1997

[gugnihr]

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Nintendo seems to think a low-effort series is worth a premium price? Why am I not surprised. It might be fun, but this company has never seemed to understand what real quality is; the features that would justify such a high price tag.

Red Dead Redemption 2 was how many millions and years into development when it released? I would have been fine if that title cost more, but you're high if you think a Zelda title is that special.

I'm not a fan of Zelda (except Twilight Princess), but not every game needs to be RDR2 (or similar to RDR2).
I could spend 70 euo for a game that I really want a lot, it is very unlikely that I will do so because I don't find many games anymore that I really want that bad (I mostly play older games), but I think that 50 / 60' euro would be a fair price for basically any game, it's not like RDR2 deserves it more than other games.
Nintnedo in the past made many great games, they were for sure smaller than RDR2 and others but their quality was extremely high anyway.
If RDR2 is worth 70 euro how much games like Disney infinity 3.0, Little Big Planet or Dreams should cost? 500 euro?
If RDR2 is so special compared to a Nintendo game, what is it compared to Dreams? Or even just to Disney Infinity 3.0?
This is not how one should evaluate games.
I would rather not pay 70 euro for any game, but if I had to there are many games that I would accept to pay 70 euro for, and more than 90 % of those game are much simpler and smaller than the few others (less than 10 %)

[Ulfrinn]

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Buying games based on graphics is just as ridiculous as paying 70.

Agreed. Tell me about the world, the gameplay, the story. Give me isometric 720p and I'll be happy if its a giant world with the wealth of interactions of Arcanum of steamworks and Magic obscura and the storytelling of something as good as Trails in the Sky. Graphics can help, but you need art direction not raw fiedlity.

Well, from a consumer standpoint I'd like to believe that is true. But I've been gaming long enough to know most studios can make profit just by dangling some shiny keys in front of some people who are easily distracted by that crap. In fact, those types are why that talented art direction is becoming harder and harder to find over a bunch of games rehashing the same crap but with a new coat of polish.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

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Agreed. Tell me about the world, the gameplay, the story. Give me isometric 720p and I'll be happy if its a giant world with the wealth of interactions of Arcanum of steamworks and Magic obscura and the storytelling of something as good as Trails in the Sky. Graphics can help, but you need art direction not raw fiedlity.

Well, from a consumer standpoint I'd like to believe that is true. But I've been gaming long enough to know most studios can make profit just by dangling some shiny keys in front of some people who are easily distracted by that crap. In fact, those types are why that talented art direction is becoming harder and harder to find over a bunch of games rehashing the same crap but with a new coat of polish.

Oh absolutely. It's like "Star Power" and Franchise power in Hollywood. It sucks it exists but I do know it exists. I say return the copyright system to 20 years max, and we'd see more focus on developers and people....but then again that go right back into star power again. DAMN, there's a trap in ever corner....gigity.

but right now my fight tor remove CRT and return the internet to being more anonymous and general interaction to allow uncivil activities. Let us, the people, choose our attitude and tone, not someone from on high forcing it, so such is life, copyright stays on my backburner for a while

[funewchie]

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I still need to play Breath of the Wild, myself, so at the moment this one costs me zero dollars.

I own Breath of the Wild 1, it's actually pretty good.
You should give it a try.

I like that it's very accommodating to self-imposed challenges, and even at times encourages you to try to mix up your style.
(I tested it out by doing a naked Link run for the prologue (icy mountain, strong enemies, and all. No armors to deal with damage or frigid cold).
Tricky but manageable.
I'm not nearly crazy enough to try it for the full game, but that certainly is possible to do.)

One of the perks of that game is figuring out ways to cheat.
(Why run through a rainy canyon full of enemies... when you can create updrafts and hang glide to the top of the canyon, then just parkour along it and skip the whole gauntlet of foes and reach your destination?
It is easy? Somewhat..
Is it fun to pull off? Oh, yeah!)

The ultimate challenge, is that once you finish the prologue... you can actually go at any time right to the final boss.
Uh... good luck beating him with only 3 hearts and primitive weapons, though.
It CAN be done, but you're going to have a VERY rough time of it.
(Hence why it's the ultimate challenge)