The human race is doomed

[UtahGlazer3000]

AI art proves that AI, is in fact creative, and that there is nothing we can do that they can't do better, and the robots will in fact overthrow us and we'll all die. 300,000 years isn't so bad a run.

[Valfossa]

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Well there is an AI that can write your homework, so it's probably not too far off for a coffee filled future.

there is ai that detects if your homework was done by ai
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/ai-writing-detection-tool-homework-students

But what happens if the student's homework is almost the same as the AI? Or someone just changes the wording enough that the AI won't detect it?

If a question has one right answer, how many different ways can someone answer the question that usually has one right answer?

[Valfossa]

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Millions of years of adaptation that can be learned faster and more clearly then any human being on the planet could only imagine.

Well at least in theory anyway.

Robots do not have biology.

Maybe so, at least right now. But chances are they will understand more about biology, more so then most people will ever know.

If start people relying on machines to take over more and more things in our lives, then machines will replace human beings at more and more things.

[=(^ ^)=]

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Robots do not have biology.

Maybe so, at least right now. But chances are they will understand more about biology, more so then most people will ever know.

If start people relying on machines to take over more and more things in our lives, then machines will replace human beings at more and more things.

I mean, do you think robots are capable of exploring the Universe and figuring out how big it is? Are they capable of surviving heat and cold, to heal themselves after a wound? To extract the resources they need? To comunicate with Aliens if they do exist? To create any kind of goal we humans still are not aware of?

Their AI are algorithms made by humans. We are not aware of what there is to discover. Robots won't take over humans, because while humans will survive the environment they have been adapted to, the robots won't be able to.

[Valfossa]

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Maybe so, at least right now. But chances are they will understand more about biology, more so then most people will ever know.

If start people relying on machines to take over more and more things in our lives, then machines will replace human beings at more and more things.

I mean, do you think robots are capable of exploring the Universe and figuring out how big it is? Are they capable of surviving heat and cold, to heal themselves after a wound? To extract the resources they need? To comunicate with Aliens if they do exist? To create any kind of goal we humans still are not aware of?

Their AI are algorithms made by humans. We are not aware of what there is to discover. Robots won't take over humans, because while humans will survive the environment they have been adapted to, the robots won't be able to.

But that's thing a robot is made up of human knowledge, it's difficult to say what a free thinking AI will do, if it has a personality, or emotions, or even a face something we can associate with, a person.

But the fact remain, when it will come down to who will take over a role what will the person in charge choose? Say if you have a job teaching children, are they going to rely on someone who has to not only learn the materials to teach the children, has to eat and drink, has to go to the toilet every now and then, has a set amount of time they can stay, and also has to be payed for the time of their labour.

Or are they going to pick the machine that can learn anything they want it to, doesn't need to eat, drink, go to the toilet, have set amount of time they can be there, and won't ask for a paycheck.

People will be replaced in what capacity, it's difficult to say. But there is already technology out there that has already changed how we live, and who we need to rely on in order to get what we need.

[=(^ ^)=]

You need feelings in order to communicate. An AI trying to communicate with a dog will start to bark. The AI ​​won't understand body language. They might not understand lies.

The AI ​​will indeed take over jobs made by humans. This has been happening already for decades. If you watched the movie Matrix, when they put the "contract" and you see all those clerks, that's actually an old computer where humans were supposed to do manually what every computer is capable of doing by itself.

Machine learning is about learning from what you are interacting with. They can think faster than humans to imitate them, but if you put the robots with monkeys, they will act like monkeys. The AI ​​is limited by what we humans know.

A world made by only robots will fall within a few decades. They don't have any immunity system, and bacteria will destroy their components, together with climatic elements. Just look at your computer and how fast it deteriorates.

[Valfossa]

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You need feelings in order to communicate. An AI trying to communicate with a dog will start to bark. The AI ​​won't understand body language. They might not understand lies.

The AI ​​will indeed take over jobs made by humans. This has been happening already for decades. If you watched the movie Matrix, when they put the "contract" and you see all those clerks, that's actually an old computer where humans were supposed to do manually what every computer is capable of doing by itself.

Machine learning is about learning from what you are interacting with. They can think faster than humans to imitate them, but if you put the robots with monkeys, they will act like monkeys. The AI ​​is limited by what we humans know.

A world made by only robots will fall within a few decades. They don't have any immunity system, and bacteria will destroy their components, together with climatic elements. Just look at your computer and how fast it deteriorates.

But you are basing that on the here and now, or at least the here and now in a public perspective. You basing this off, current materials. Of even current knowledge on how we use those current materials.

The AI won't understand body language, how do you or me will know how they will act?

The AI might not understand lies, how do you or me know how they will understand lies?

A world made only by robots will fall, how do you know it will fall, or if the world will only be made for robots?

Has a robot been put into a monkey?

Will flesh be replaceable? Will we even need it?

Will a machine even need machine learning in the future?

Will a machine even need us to learn? Or will we start learn from them?

There is no will, because there is only current knowledge and theories. What is rule and fact now, may not be the case in the future.

You say robots will fall in a few decades if they control us? How will you know what will happen in a few decades?

[=(^ ^)=]

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You need feelings in order to communicate. An AI trying to communicate with a dog will start to bark. The AI ​​won't understand body language. They might not understand lies.

The AI ​​will indeed take over jobs made by humans. This has been happening already for decades. If you watched the movie Matrix, when they put the "contract" and you see all those clerks, that's actually an old computer where humans were supposed to do manually what every computer is capable of doing by itself.

Machine learning is about learning from what you are interacting with. They can think faster than humans to imitate them, but if you put the robots with monkeys, they will act like monkeys. The AI ​​is limited by what we humans know.

A world made by only robots will fall within a few decades. They don't have any immunity system, and bacteria will destroy their components, together with climatic elements. Just look at your computer and how fast it deteriorates.

But you are basing that on the here and now, or at least the here and now in a public perspective. You basing this off, current materials. Of even current knowledge on how we use those current materials.

The AI won't understand body language, how do you or me will know how they will act?

The AI might not understand lies, how do you or me know how they will understand lies?

A world made only by robots will fall, how do you know it will fall, or if the world will only be made for robots?

Has a robot been put into a monkey?

Will flesh be replaceable? Will we even need it?

Will a machine even need machine learning in the future?

Will a machine even need us to learn? Or will we start learn from them?

There is no will, because there is only current knowledge and theories. What is rule and fact now, may not be the case in the future.

You say robots will fall in a few decades if they control us? How will you know what will happen in a few decades?

Once again, it's biology. The reason there is life on the Earth is because we are made of organic material, not plastic and conductors.

[nohuman]

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There's a significant difference between arriving at a given output, and knowing you're doing that, wanting to do that, deciding to do that, and being aware of the process of doing that. Creativity requires intentionality. Intent requires cognizance. When we create an AI that is cognizant and intentional, then I'll believe we're on the cusp of something truly paradigm shifting.

That said, I don't believe that our destruction or replacement is the inevitable outcome. When I look at how we already utilize AI - to create, to diagnose, to search for cures, to find new metamaterials, to explore possibility spaces, to automate, to learn, to classify, in short as augmentations or additive capacities we lack on our own - I think there's at least as strong a possibility that we will merge with AI and simply become it, as there is that it could supplant us.

Yeah, we will use AI to doom ourselves long before it becomes smart enough to kill us before it's too late. ;)

[Valfossa]

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Once again, it's biology. The reason there is life on the Earth is because we are made of organic material, not plastic and conductors.

Once again you are assuming that organic can't be replicated in the future, or if we even need or want it. The future is the future.

Theory can be disproven including yours and mine and current biology. And even then, it may have already happened, most of us on here can only see through the public eye.

[Uncle Sam]

It depends in how fast AI reaches singularity, once that happens AI might decide if all the others carbon based lifeforms of this planet are "obsolete" or not.

[Palleonsan]

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It depends in how fast AI reaches singularity, once that happens AI might decide if all the others carbon based lifeforms of this planet are "obsolete" or not.

That's why you never ever pick Hitler's personality as a base for your AI.
Unless it's a drawing AI, then it might be harmless.
Wait.
Oh shi

[Uncle Sam]

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It depends in how fast AI reaches singularity, once that happens AI might decide if all the others carbon based lifeforms of this planet are "obsolete" or not.

That's why you never ever pick Hitler's personality as a base for your AI.
Unless it's a drawing AI, then it might be harmless.
Wait.
Oh shi

Skynet didn't have that personality, it just reached the conclusion that humans were "obsolete" AFAIK. In my example the AI would think that all carbon based lifeforms (aka almost all life on Earth) is "obsolete". Paired with AI reaching singularity that's pretty much a ggwp no rematch for all living beings on this planet.

[=(^ ^)=]

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Once again, it's biology. The reason there is life on the Earth is because we are made of organic material, not plastic and conductors.

Once again you are assuming that organic can't be replicated in the future, or if we even need or want it. The future is the future.

Theory can be disproven including yours and mine and current biology. And even then, it may have already happened, most of us on here can only see through the public eye.

You missed my point. I'll be clearer.

In order to survive, you must adapt to the environment. This is what animals and humans have been doing for millions of years. It's evolution. Minerals, plastic, they cannot adapt and heal by themselves.

You cannot replace millions of years of evolution with robots. We have genetic engineering, we can create organic, but can this organic evolve when there is an AI not capable to feel pain and totally lacking of instinct?

But I'm ending this conversation here. The AI/ML is still under developing and it requires decades.

[Vinz Clortho]

They should have given the AI a map of Ukraine. It might have been able to come up with a more effective battle plan.

[Valfossa]

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Once again you are assuming that organic can't be replicated in the future, or if we even need or want it. The future is the future.

Theory can be disproven including yours and mine and current biology. And even then, it may have already happened, most of us on here can only see through the public eye.

You missed my point. I'll be clearer.

In order to survive, you must adapt to the environment. This is what animals and humans have been doing for millions of years. It's evolution. Minerals, plastic, they cannot adapt and heal by themselves.

You cannot replace millions of years of evolution with robots. We have genetic engineering, we can create organic, but can this organic evolve when there is an AI not capable to feel pain and totally lacking of instinct?

But I'm ending this conversation here. The AI/ML is still under developing and it requires decades.

Fair enough, but you still can't see into the future.