Does that Zelensky guy ever wear anything else besides green sweaters?

[Fosty]

Not including his weird skimpy leather and high heels.

[Yarr]

I hope things work out well for ukranians, but not Ukranians.

[davidb11]

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I hope things work out well for ukranians, but not Ukranians.

There's no difference between the two?
I mean, it's proper noun English rules to use the capital letter, but this is the internet, we don't need to use proper noun usage. :P

[Yarr]

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

Publicado originalmente por Yarr:

I hope things work out well for ukranians, but not Ukranians.

There's no difference between the two?
I mean, it's proper noun English rules to use the capital letter, but this is the internet, we don't need to use proper noun usage. :P

I guess you are right. There is no difference between vaccine (injecting cowpoop) vs. vaccine (injecting pathogen to create immunity for that specific pathogen) vs. vaccine (a preparation that lessens severity of a disease) either.

The 3 words are grammatically all completely the same so I don't know why people can't tell them apart.

[davidb11]

I'm very confused, but that is correct.

The English Language is confusing.

[Yarr]

ukranian - the genetic population grouping
Ukranian - citizens of the state "Ukraine"

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Publicado originalmente por Yarr:

ukranian - the genetic population grouping
Ukranian - citizens of the state "Ukraine"

Huh?

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

I'm very confused, but that is correct.

The English Language is confusing.

Okay I guess that makes sense.

[davidb11]

Publicado originalmente por Yarr:

ukranian - the genetic population grouping
Ukranian - citizens of the state "Ukraine"

You sure? Because anyone who lives in a country is called with a capital letter.
Hence American.
There's no american person.

English is very confusing.

[Yarr]

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

Publicado originalmente por Yarr:

ukranian - the genetic population grouping
Ukranian - citizens of the state "Ukraine"

You sure? Because anyone who lives in a country is called with a capital letter.
Hence American.
There's no american person.

English is very confusing.

Hmm. If I am incorrect then it simply means I have not been speaking English, but rather a constructed language similar to English because English (by design) sucks balls at distinguishing certain concepts.

Cops and Lawyers do that every day all day for the purpose of deceiving people.

[davidb11]

Uh. I could also be wrong, but hey. I do know English is confusing.
Nothing to do with Cops though.

[Yarr]

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Uh. I could also be wrong, but hey. I do know English is confusing.
Nothing to do with Cops though.

You sure about the last bit? Cops are trained to use what is called legalese in order to bind you to a contract. Legalese is variation of English. But perhaps I am wrong also as I am conflating "cops" with "police officers". Police officer is a job which task is to enforce policies. What I said applies to them. They use legalase in order to hold you accountable to contracts (policies).

[Yarr]

But I love it that you pointed that out, because I now learned that "cop" probably comes from the word "copper" associated with the copper buttons that police officers used to wear.

[Plaid]

cops don't know enough of the law to speak legalese. They may pretend to know, but often they do not, and may find themselves in a lawsuit.

[davidb11]

People give the police a lot of flack, and it's way overblown.
I say this not because my uncle was a former cop and also became a U.S Customs Agent. :P

[Dom]

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Not what happens in the Ukraine though.

It was Putin who attacked, and western nations are merely providing some much needed support.

Also, the Ukraine is kind of locked in place; so the only way to stop this war is by Putin moving out. Or Putin getting what he wants, but let's hope that doesn't happen.

Putin didn't attack until 2022. The civil war has been going on since 2014. A civil war which has seen several bombs and shells fall on cities in eastern Ukraine over the past 10 years. This war wouldn't have even been started in the first place if NATO stuck to their agreements of not pushing NATO influences into countries on the Russian border, or backed a coup overthrowing the elected leadership in 2014.

Pretending this was some random, spontaneous aggression by Russia and NATO is just innocently sitting by with clean hands helps nobody. NATO created the mess, Ukrainian oligarchs are profiting off it, while innocent people are dying for a power play by people thousands of miles away supported by citizens in those countries who refuse to call out their own sides.

I'm genuinely curious - who was pushing Ukraine into NATO (or NATO into Ukraine)? I do not recall hearing this, not even ONCE before Putin decided to attack Ukraine.

Also, even if that were the case (which it surely is not); Ukraine's low military spending and the overall development of the country + conflicts with Russia, makes it highly unlikely that existing NATO countries would've been willing to even ratify such membership application, prior to the attack.

NATO is a defensive alliance and poses no threat to countries that are not seeking to invade & undermine the sovereignty of the member countries.

[Ulfrinn]

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Publicado originalmente por Yarr:

ukranian - the genetic population grouping
Ukranian - citizens of the state "Ukraine"

Huh?

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

I'm very confused, but that is correct.

The English Language is confusing.

Okay I guess that makes sense.

There are primarily two ethnic groups in Ukraine, and yes, they've been divided for a long time, since before Ukraine was even it's own country after the USSR collapsed. Those who identify as Ukrainian, and those who Identify as Russian, which primarily live in the eastern provinces that voted to separate from the western provinces that are almost entirely ethnic ukrainian. And yes, when you hear groups in Ukraine say they want a Ukraine free of Russians, there's a reason they phrase it as Russians, and not Russian soldiers, because many want the ethnically Russian population kicked out, or worse.

Much of this has been going on since the 1990s but has been mostly uninteresting to people in the west, which is why you still find so many people who actually believe this is a 2022 issue.