Bethesda got rid of male and female options in Starfield, an RPG.

[Shodan 2.0]

Yeah, all their previous games let you pick either a male or a female character which would allow unique bonuses in Fallout, now you must be some kind of a "gender neutral" meat bag labeled something like "Body Type 1" because people want to make this nonsense the new norm for everyone it seems.

And it's not just Starfield:

Elden Ring (all those Souls games are overrated and their difficulty especially, by the way) also has the body type A and B kind of stuff and they also used to have male and female options.

Forza Horizon 5 (these games also used to have male and female options until now) has a bunch of clearly male and female characters awkwardly mixed together under a single tab because that just makes so much sense, then when you finally find the one you want, you get a new tab for choosing some kind of "identity" even though you already picked either a male or a female character which must have taken longer than it should considering how they're all mixed together like that.

Clearly a nonsensical political trend since all these games are changing to the exact same stupid system all of a sudden, but all of them used to have the same options until recently. Welcome to 2022 where it's offensive to label things male and female because that apparently doesn't exist anymore since that's totally a thing that can just change with time.

I'm off to bed now and by the time I return here tomorrow, this thread will probably be locked.

[ZZZZZ]

futuristic character in a futuristic game? who could have guessed?

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

Publicado originalmente por 8bitbeard:

Publicado originalmente por Mr Jt (Gog is king):

Nexus also banns some stuff

Thankfully Nexus isn't the only place where mods can be hosted.

Yeah truh but it’s my favorite site. They check the files before they upload it

[Haruspex]

Publicado originalmente por Mr Jt (Gog is king):

Publicado originalmente por 8bitbeard:

Thankfully Nexus isn't the only place where mods can be hosted.

Yeah truh but it’s my favorite site. They check the files before they upload it

It's everyone's favorite, but with several modders pulling their work because they disagree with certain decisions made on Nexus, we can't really rely on it 100%.

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

Yeah fully agree on that

[Shodan 2.0]

This will be my last post here, at least for a while because people here either have zero reading comprehension or they just have nothing to say so they're trying to avoid the topic.

Anyway, I think I said everything that has to be said and if someone wants to twist it so that everything I'm saying would look stupid to someone who's not paying attention, well, that's not on me, but here's a recap:

Far Cry 6 has a scene where a character gets brutally shot to death for "misgendering" someone. This kind of ♥♥♥♥ with all these gender identities and whatever it's called is everywhere these days, not just in Starfield, not just in Far Cry 6, not just in games as a whole.

If none of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was going on today and Starfield randomly used the 1 and 2 or A and B labels, with no context of political trends behind it, then yeah, I either wouldn't notice at all or I really, really wouldn't care at all if I did. That is what the issue is here. I don't have a need to label myself as "male" on every possible occasion because I feel so "manly" (read: insecure) or whatever the ♥♥♥♥.

Alien: Isolation with a female lead (just like the 1979 movie) is in my top 3 games of all time, I beat it over a dozen times, I own it on my phone and I watched my cousin play through the whole thing after my recommendation. In the challenge modes, I always pick one of the female characters simply because they're the main characters of the franchise and that makes them more iconic than the male ones, I couldn't give less of a ♥♥♥♥ if they're male or female.

I always play Fallout 3 and 4 as a female character because most enemies are male which makes the perk for bonus damage toward the opposite gender more effective. I couldn't care less, the gameplay is just as awesome, Fallout 4 is one of the most immersive games to me regardless (even with the voiced female protagonist, I never notice it) and that's all that matters.

I'm saying this because I'm not the one who has a problem with this kind of ♥♥♥♥, it's actually the self-proclaimed "tolerant" people who do. They want everything to be about them, they want games, movies and shows to tell their life story and they expect everything including the most basic facts and historical events to be redefined and rewritten just to adapt to them, all that for a negligible minority.

So, I'm against the forced political crap which is obviously behind this, that's all. It's not just in this game and it's not just in games in general. I said this too many times.

In conclusion, if you're going to continue spamming generic crap like a mindless bot, that says more about you and your "arguments" on this topic than it does about me, so by all means, go for it.

[Shodan 2.0]

Publicado originalmente por Mattmoo:

Oh, btw Bethesda has got rid of a lot more than that.

What do you mean?

[L1qu1dator]

Publicado originalmente por Masque:

Publicado originalmente por Pudge:

i hope that's not true. if they go woke i will not buy it

But it's a Bethesda game. Modders will make it good.

Nonsense! No modder has such power to turn Bethe$da's game good.

[tsarac]

My belief in humanity is dwindling by the minute

We're fighting because of c*ck and balls out of all things

[76561198278961361]

{ENLACE ELIMINADO}...and?

[Your_White_Knight]

Publicado originalmente por Shodan 2.0:

This will be my last post here, at least for a while because people here either have zero reading comprehension or they just have nothing to say so they're trying to avoid the topic.

Anyway, I think I said everything that has to be said and if someone wants to twist it so that everything I'm saying would look stupid to someone who's not paying attention, well, that's not on me, but here's a recap:

Far Cry 6 has a scene where a character gets brutally shot to death for "misgendering" someone. This kind of ♥♥♥♥ with all these gender identities and whatever it's called is everywhere these days, not just in Starfield, not just in Far Cry 6, not just in games as a whole.

If none of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was going on today and Starfield randomly used the 1 and 2 or A and B labels, with no context of political trends behind it, then yeah, I either wouldn't notice at all or I really, really wouldn't care at all if I did. That is what the issue is here. I don't have a need to label myself as "male" on every possible occasion because I feel so "manly" (read: insecure) or whatever the ♥♥♥♥.

Alien: Isolation with a female lead (just like the 1979 movie) is in my top 3 games of all time, I beat it over a dozen times, I own it on my phone and I watched my cousin play through the whole thing after my recommendation. In the challenge modes, I always pick one of the female characters simply because they're the main characters of the franchise and that makes them more iconic than the male ones, I couldn't give less of a ♥♥♥♥ if they're male or female.

I always play Fallout 3 and 4 as a female character because most enemies are male which makes the perk for bonus damage toward the opposite gender more effective. I couldn't care less, the gameplay is just as awesome, Fallout 4 is one of the most immersive games to me regardless (even with the voiced female protagonist, I never notice it) and that's all that matters.

I'm saying this because I'm not the one who has a problem with this kind of ♥♥♥♥, it's actually the self-proclaimed "tolerant" people who do. They want everything to be about them, they want games, movies and shows to tell their life story and they expect everything including the most basic facts and historical events to be redefined and rewritten just to adapt to them, all that for a negligible minority.



So, I'm against the forced political crap which is obviously behind this, that's all. It's not just in this game and it's not just in games in general. I said this too many times.

In conclusion, if you're going to continue spamming generic crap like a mindless bot, that says more about you and your "arguments" on this topic than it does about me, so by all means, go for it.

So are a lot of people.. but just like in movies, TV, and now video games... there's a small group that will keep on doing this because they can, they themselves believe in it, and they've convinced the company that it's "what "the people" want" even when it's not...

Sure we can talk about it... but until the company almost destroyed themselves financially... there's nothing to be done about it but talk.

Sadly enough like movies, TV, etc... after the game companies are trashed... those people will move on to the next big media platform they can pump their agendas out on...

Like I said... welcome to the 2020's... it's gaming's turn now. *sigh*

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Publicado originalmente por Fake:

Publicado originalmente por Fumo Gaming:

mods and modders will be like nop

and make mods specifically to change back male / female.

And Nexus would ban the mod and modder.

LL or another site will pick it up

[Phirestar]

Can someone please remind Bethesda (and other developers) that in their future titles, they should try to provide more than 6 hairstyles total for each sex?

Like I don't know if this is just me, but I feel like the bulk of effort is put into all the wrong parts of character creation. Why is it that I have a full slider for 'Nose Sellion Depth' - a part of the body that I can't even identify, never mind notice a difference in while moving the slider - but prominent features of the character like hair end up having so few options that I only find one choice that I like?

I'm guessing that it's the usual suspect: it's takes far less work on the developers' part to code in a slider that simply stretches / contracts a piece of the face model, than to build an entire new asset to give the character another choice of hairstyle. Yeah, yeah, efficiency-over-quality as always...

[Phirestar]

Publicado originalmente por Phirestar:

Can someone please remind Bethesda (and other developers) that in their future titles, they should try to provide more than 6 hairstyles total for each sex?

Like I don't know if this is just me, but I feel like the bulk of effort is put into all the wrong parts of character creation. Why is it that I have a full slider for 'Nose Sellion Depth' - a part of the body that I can't even identify, never mind notice a difference in while moving the slider - but prominent features of the character like hair end up having so few options that I only find one choice that I like?

I'm guessing that it's the usual suspect: it's takes far less work on the developers' part to code in a slider that simply stretches / contracts a piece of the face model, than to build an entire new asset to give the character another choice of hairstyle. Yeah, yeah, efficiency-over-quality as always...

Oblivion had something real interesting going for itself with the hair length slider, which gave an extra degree of control over your character's hair in a way that they could possibly get away with a few less hairstyle choices.

[Alliesaurus]

Publicado originalmente por Phirestar:

Publicado originalmente por Phirestar:

Can someone please remind Bethesda (and other developers) that in their future titles, they should try to provide more than 6 hairstyles total for each sex?

Like I don't know if this is just me, but I feel like the bulk of effort is put into all the wrong parts of character creation. Why is it that I have a full slider for 'Nose Sellion Depth' - a part of the body that I can't even identify, never mind notice a difference in while moving the slider - but prominent features of the character like hair end up having so few options that I only find one choice that I like?

I'm guessing that it's the usual suspect: it's takes far less work on the developers' part to code in a slider that simply stretches / contracts a piece of the face model, than to build an entire new asset to give the character another choice of hairstyle. Yeah, yeah, efficiency-over-quality as always...

Oblivion had something real interesting going for itself with the hair length slider, which gave an extra degree of control over your character's hair in a way that they could possibly get away with a few less hairstyle choices.

Iirc the hair length slider was in gta san andreas too

[krag hag]

Publicado originalmente por Shodan 2.0:

Far Cry 6 has a scene where a character gets brutally shot to death for "misgendering" someone.

Based