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アキウアラ 10 dec, 2022 @ 7:35
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I am now an Atheist.
I am a former roman catholic, I found the Bible has too many errors and contradictions now I don't believe on God like there are literally thousands of religions floating around, how can I be so sure that it is the real God, so I finally admit that I was wrong about doubting science and God isn't real if he is really an "all loving God" he shouldn't make this world a f8cked up place to live like sufferings and pain are literally here on this world of ours.
Senast ändrad av アキウアラ; 10 dec, 2022 @ 7:36
Ursprungligen skrivet av Netaris:
There is no god, only lifeforms isolated on a giant rock turning around a star in space. We were never able to prove god's existence nor to see any impact from a surnatural entity on our world. The only thing we see is physic's laws in application over time and that's about it.

But you don't have to trust science either. For example, everyone learn about the big bang, while forgotting it's only a theory, we have no proof that's what happened. Someday you can wake up in a world were the big bang is proved wrong or right. Science isn't about saying truths to peoples, science is a method used to find what's the most probable theory to be true. Never forget about that, science isn't the same thing as a religion and you should not "believe in science", there is no need for beliefs at all in science.
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Netaris 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:42 
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Real atheism is about accepting the void. That there is no superior being out there to watch after you, you're the only one able to improve your living conditions and you don't know what will happen at your death. Most likely you'll just cease to exist, like before you were born, you'll don't be here anymore and that's about it.
Do you feel happy and motivated by your atheistic beliefs?
That's all that really matters.

None of us know the Truth - we'll only find out (or not) on the day we die.

What I ask is, what is the harm in believing that there's something great waiting for us, and feeling positive during our life times with this hope always on the horizon?

Even if your life is in absolute shambles, destroyed, at least religion provides a safety net, because you believe there's something positive waiting even beyond this life.

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Atheism is about facing reality, it's reserved for the mentaly strongests, as the void is way more feared than a divinity you can somehow influence by your actions (what's very unlikely in reality).
Atheism is in the same zip code as religion - it's an absolutist belief without evidence, except the act of believing in it (at least for me) brings zero joy, confidence or hope.

I don't need beliefs to be motivated or happy. Indeed we don't know the truth, but some things are more likely than others. And it is very unlikely that a superior being watch after us and actually care about what happen to us at all ...

What's wrong is false hopes, as when you realize they're wrong everything you believed in shatter. When you achieved to be happy and motivated by things you know to be real for sure, you don't risk the same thing. That's why I can go forward without any fear, because I know everything I have built as a mindset is built on very strong basis.

I don't need hope, I need strengh.

Actually, atheism is the opposite of religions, because you basically refuse to believe in anything. So no, it's not the same thing. Religions have to prove to us that god exist as they're the ones who pretend it's actually a thing. But we have no reason to follow religious peoples in their theories.

And again, it's normal that it bring no joy, confidence or hope, because it's reserved for the peoples who have the mental strengh to support that kind of mindset. It's not about being happy, confident or full of hope, it's about being free from influences and being able to appreciate things for what they really are. There is no real value out of something you've just artifically attributed value to and the very moment you aknowledge that, well ... What's the point about faith at all anymore ?

I believe in my observations and experiences, not in old books and speeches.
Senast ändrad av Netaris; 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:45
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Aye, but if you believed as you said, why blame God for the Devil's work? As many contradictions, there are as many people dedicated to explaining them in such a manor that even the most cynical atheist can agree. I understand though, as someone of faith, that so called "followers" of the doctrine can kill a passion that once was through ignorance, or lack of clarity.

Bless, and good wishes.
who made the devil?
A&A 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:43 
There is a difference between religious and believer. I am mkre believer than atheist or religious.


Interesting, why Jesus, who was God's son, was sent to sucreface himself to teach people the truth?
Senast ändrad av A&A; 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:43
Thermal Lance 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:44 
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Aye, but if you believed as you said, why blame God for the Devil's work? As many contradictions, there are as many people dedicated to explaining them in such a manor that even the most cynical atheist can agree. I understand though, as someone of faith, that so called "followers" of the doctrine can kill a passion that once was through ignorance, or lack of clarity.

Bless, and good wishes.
who made the devil?
Funny enough, on the subject of the devil, most believers "hate" that guy. But, the hilarious part is without him who would test us? In his own way, the devil is just as important as Jesus, just don't listen to him too much thought lol. XD
Netaris 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:48 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Thermal Lance:
Funny enough, on the subject of the devil, most believers "hate" that guy. But, the hilarious part is without him who would test us? In his own way, the devil is just as important as Jesus, just don't listen to him too much thought lol. XD

Who gonna test us ? Actually, natural selection test us enough like that. And I don't even talk about all the stupid social norms you have to follow and all the knowledge you have to gain to just have a chance in life today ... Yep, natural selection is enough, but sometimes it select peoples you don't like or who go against your interrests. Well, too bad.
Senast ändrad av Netaris; 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:48
Dotssy 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:54 
I tip my fedora to you, good sir, now we should worship Science™ like every Decent Human Being™ instead. Don't forget to get boosted.
A&A 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:55 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Thermal Lance:
Funny enough, on the subject of the devil, most believers "hate" that guy. But, the hilarious part is without him who would test us? In his own way, the devil is just as important as Jesus, just don't listen to him too much thought lol. XD
Do you see the difference between the god's work and the devil's work?

Well, if someone breaks a rule, god punishes them, while the devil's work is 90% good and 10% bad, and those numbers change over time. Is there a difference?
Senast ändrad av A&A; 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:58
Thermal Lance 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:56 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Dotssy:
I tip my fedora to you, good sir, now we should worship Science™ like every Decent Human Being™ instead. Don't forget to get boosted.
Thanks for the good advice. Would suck to catch covid due to a variant not being covered by a previous shot. Or y'know, the obvious fact that this vaccine, while effective, is not a one-and-done affair. Just like the one for the flu.
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enjoy your trip to HELL!
Plot twist. Hell is actually a pretty chill place to be in.
I was in hell a few days ago, I got ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shot at
Thermal Lance 10 dec, 2022 @ 8:59 
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Funny enough, on the subject of the devil, most believers "hate" that guy. But, the hilarious part is without him who would test us? In his own way, the devil is just as important as Jesus, just don't listen to him too much thought lol. XD
Do you see the difference between the god's work and the devil's work?

Well, if someone breaks a rule, god punishes them, while the devil's work is 90% good and 10% bad, and those numbers change over time.
Don't read to much into it. I just state that he has an important position to fill. Each have their role. Besides I live by the principle that being "scared" by the devil is giving him way too much power to begin with. That way he can scare you into doing anything including being a sociopathic crazy treating others like subhumans for having a different belief. Which, funny enough, is something way too common in the history of most "mainstream" religion.
Azami 10 dec, 2022 @ 9:01 
While I'm not an advocate of either atheism or religion, one shouldn't completely give up logic. And you're right, there are too many religions out there that it makes you wonder which is the "true god."

People will say that their religion is real and other religions are false simply because they were brought up into that religion in the first place. Or because the Bible or quoran or whatever said so. That or they found something in that religion that makes "more sense" than their previous religion.

Some people would say that all religions are somehow linked together and are connect to one higher being. The irony is that those same people still stick to one of those religions because they think it's the "correct" one.
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Thermal Lance 10 dec, 2022 @ 9:05 
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I think most people have an issue with god because they believe he created the universe.

He didn't. He wouldn't do something like this.
Good to know you can read the mind of a god. I certaintly couldn't.
Thermal Lance 10 dec, 2022 @ 9:07 
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While I'm not an advocate of either atheism or religion, one shouldn't completely give up logic. And you're right, there are too many religions out there that it makes you wonder which is the "true god."

People will say that their religion is real and other religions are false simply because they were brought up into that religion in the first place. Or because the Bible or quoran or whatever said so. That or they found something in that religion that makes "more sense" than their previous religion.

Some people would say that all religions are somehow linked together and are connect to one higher being. The irony is that those same people still stick to one of those religions because they think it's the "correct" one.
Yup, and that's why I keep saying "religion" itself is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. But, that's only my opinion. I'll only know that for sure the day I'll die.
Candyy 10 dec, 2022 @ 9:08 
The only god is arceus v:
Othobrithol 10 dec, 2022 @ 9:08 
To quote, I believe, the notable yet ficticious Lady Dierdre,
"The question should not be 'Why would a perfect god create such a universe?' but 'Why would a perfect god create a universe at all?'
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