What's wrong with "flame wars" anyway?

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:00

I know there's a fine line between heated discussion and dumpster fire, but why exactly do we all accept that any kind of debate or argument is automatically a flame war? I really can't see the issue as long as there aren't any personal attacks, and even then that's the user's fault, not the threads'. It's kind of sad to see threads get immediately locked as soon as it seems like something actually interesting could happen.

Is there anything you can discuss on this forum outside of "what's your favorite game/song/anime/whatever"?

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:26

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Boring more like. Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I don't see the exchange of ideas as a form of conflict.

It's pretty sad if you entertain yourself with conflicts. But then again, it's your preference, as a pacifist I can tolerate it. :)

And I'd say it's rather sad that you see disagreement as aggression. I certainly don't perceive your different opinion as an attack.

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Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:26

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why would you ban topics that can actually get people excited and passionate?

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I really can't see the issue as long as there aren't any personal attacks,

You've already said there are issues.

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:27

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This thread is going to get locked up op. I have a strong feeling about it.

Perhaps, but that would just prove me right. No one has insulted anybody yet, there is literally no valid reason to lock.

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:30

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why would you ban topics that can actually get people excited and passionate?
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I really can't see the issue as long as there aren't any personal attacks,
You've already said there are issues.

A mature person can handle getting excited and passionate without resorting to insults. If you can't, you get banned. It's that simple, or rather it should be.

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Skeleton Minion 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:30

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Why do we need to debate anyway? Why can't we all be pacifist? Don't you like serenity? It's peaceful.

Because not everyone has the same opinions.

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Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:35

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A mature person can handle getting excited and passionate without resorting to insults. If you can't, you get banned. It's that simple, or rather it should be.

A worthwhile thread can handle getting excited and passionate without turning into a flamewar. If it can't, it gets locked. It's that simple, and easier to moderate, too.

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Sydistik 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:36

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A mature person can handle getting excited and passionate without resorting to insults. If you can't, you get banned. It's that simple, or rather it should be.
A worthwhile thread can handle getting excited and passionate without turning into a flamewar. If it can't, it gets locked. It's that simple, and easier to moderate, too.

You're part of the problem.

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:38

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A mature person can handle getting excited and passionate without resorting to insults. If you can't, you get banned. It's that simple, or rather it should be.
A worthwhile thread can handle getting excited and passionate without turning into a flamewar. If it can't, it gets locked. It's that simple, and easier to moderate, too.

A thread is only as civil as its most toxic user. Locking a thread for that reason is like using a warhammer to swat a fly.

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Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:40

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A thread is only as civil as its most toxic user.

A compelling argument against threads that tend to generate toxicity, then.

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FrozenDevilz 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:42

You know what they always said,
Prevention is better than cure.

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:44

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A thread is only as civil as its most toxic user.
A compelling argument against threads that tend to generate toxicity, then.

So basically, a handful of troublemakers or agent provocateurs end up deciding which threads get locked.

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FrozenDevilz 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:46

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So basically, a handful of troublemakers or agent provocateurs end up deciding which threads get locked.

Read this, again:

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You know what they always said,
Prevention is better than cure.

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Devious 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:47

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You know what they always said,
Prevention is better than cure.

This isn't prevention, this is amputating the hand to get rid of a splinter.

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Dendrobates Tinctorius 18 Μαϊ 2016, 19:49

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A compelling argument against threads that tend to generate toxicity, then.
So basically, a handful of troublemakers or agent provocateurs end up deciding which threads get locked.

It's more than a handful. Otherwise reasonable people turn bonkers with some threads.

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