Should I join the Marines?

[theUSguy425]

A Marine recruiter came by my school yesterday (recruiters for all branches come in during lunch) and I was just considering the idea of joining the armed forces again. It will be difficult, but I think it would help me with disipline and paying for college.

What do you guys think?

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 theUSguy425：

引用自 Grey Angel：

Well you can go to kurdistan or east ukraine and marry a female comrade after killing rats and do the right thing. Heck I was gonna do it but got conflicting opinions

I think I'd go to Kurdistan, if and after I do the Marines.

No one is helping the kurds except with hardware, they are doing the dirty work and taking the shaft. Putin had to leave cause he has intelligence unlike lawyers named billary or ex choom gang sell out obambi and he doesnt want to have to slay the eagle over no fly zones.

[BossGalaga]

引用自 theUSguy425：

A Marine recruiter came by my school yesterday (recruiters for all branches come in during lunch) and I was just considering the idea of joining the armed forces again. It will be difficult, but I think it would help me with disipline and paying for college.

What do you guys think?

The Marine Corps is the toughest of all the US military branches. Boot camp is 3 months long of being treated like human waste. Then if you're infantry you go to SOI for another 2 months. If you're non-infantry you go to combat training for another month.

If you go to a Marine recruiter and tell them you want to be I dunno...a computer guy...they'll be like, "No problem!" or "Yeah, whatever you want! You'd be perfect for that!" and then they'll ask you to sign a piece of paper. Don't. If you sign that paper, I guarantee you will get some crap job you don't want. It's called an "open contract." But the recruiter won't tell you that. He'll just want you to sign it.

Whe you get to your first duty station and...if you're lucky you get treated half a step up from human waste. They will screw with your mornings, days, nights and weekends. I spent 3+ years out of my 4 and change deployed or in the field.

If you have some sweetheart back home, almost guaranteed she is not going to wait for you. And if you meet a swell gal while you're in the Marine Corps, she will either be cheating on you because you're always gone or she just won't be able to handle all the bullcrap and tell you, "We should see other people."

You will do things pointless things repetitively. If there's an easier, more efficient, smarter, safer and quicker way to do something you can guarantee that's the way you will NEVER do it and god forbid you ask someone "Doesn't it make more sense to do it this way?"

The pay for all branches of the service is technically supposed to be the same but when any other service would be staying in a hotel and getting a hundred bucks or more in per diem (that's travel pay for food/lodging/incidentals) you will be sleeping in the dirt and sharing MREs because they didn't bring enough for everyone.

Also, all services are entitled to tuition assistance, that means the military will pay for your college courses while you are in the service, not just the GI Bill after you get out. As a Marine, you will be lucky if you are able to take advantage of that because they will screw with you non-stop.

Getting promoted is a lot tougher in the Marine Corps. You may have a friend who joined the Army the same time you joined the Marine Corps. I can almost guarantee that guy will be a Sergeant before you even get promoted to Corporal.

There are no sick days in the Marine Corps. (Okay, there are some) But you could have the flu/pneumonia and still be ordered to go to work. If you do make it to see a doc, you could have a temp of 103 they might prescribe you some Motrin and maybe give you the rest of the day off if you're lucky. And when you drag your dying body back to your company to give them your sick slip everyone will treat you like a piece of crap, because now someone else is going to have to pull weeds and pick up cigarette butts in your place. You might as well just have run up to your Commander and yelled, "Death to America!"

And not that this is a deal-breaker but unless you work in an office in a non-combat unit, the only awards and medals you will get are the mandatory ones that everyone else does. You can have a perfect service record, even go above and beyond, do a sergeant's job as a private/lance but you will never get an achievement medal. Meanwhile, your buddy in the Army will have 3 achievement medals for not having any cavities and waking up on time.

There is a place that is rumored to not be a soul-sucking hell hole. It's called "Airwing." But, that's not where you'll be going.

Now, some of these are generalizations but generally speaking that's the Marine Corps for you. It's tough, unforgiving and unappreciative. And god forbid if you have a family and children, you will put them through this pain with you and if you prioritize your family over the Marine Corps, you will be treated like a bag.

I don't say this to discourage you. I tell you this because that's the way it is. If you think you can handle all that, then go for it.

I recommend the Marine Corps to two types of people.

1. People who want to be a "Marine." Nothing else. They have no other aspirations. They want to serve in the United States Marine Corps just like their daddy/uncle/brother/whoever did.

2. People I hate.

If you just want some life experience, a paycheck, college money then join literally any other service. Don't join the Navy though. Their outfits are silly and you have to live on a ship for half a year at a time. Air Force is probably the most laid back and the Army is like the middle ground between the two.

MURICA!

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 BossGalaga：

引用自 theUSguy425：

A Marine recruiter came by my school yesterday (recruiters for all branches come in during lunch) and I was just considering the idea of joining the armed forces again. It will be difficult, but I think it would help me with disipline and paying for college.

What do you guys think?

The Marine Corps is the toughest of all the US military branches. Boot camp is 3 months long of being treated like human waste. Then if you're infantry you go to SOI for another 2 months. If you're non-infantry you go to combat training for another month.

If you go to a Marine recruiter and tell them you want to be I dunno...a computer guy...they'll be like, "No problem!" or "Yeah, whatever you want! You'd be perfect for that!" and then they'll ask you to sign a piece of paper. Don't. If you sign that paper, I guarantee you will get some crap job you don't want. It's called an "open contract." But the recruiter won't tell you that. He'll just want you to sign it.

Whe you get to your first duty station and...if you're lucky you get treated half a step up from human waste. They will screw with your mornings, days, nights and weekends. I spent 3+ years out of my 4 and change deployed or in the field.

If you have some sweetheart back home, almost guaranteed she is not going to wait for you. And if you meet a swell gal while you're in the Marine Corps, she will either be cheating on you because you're always gone or she just won't be able to handle all the bullcrap and tell you, "We should see other people."

You will do things pointless things repetitively. If there's an easier, more efficient, smarter, safer and quicker way to do something you can guarantee that's the way you will NEVER do it and god forbid you ask someone "Doesn't it make more sense to do it this way?"

The pay for all branches of the service is technically supposed to be the same but when any other service would be staying in a hotel and getting a hundred bucks or more in per diem (that's travel pay for food/lodging/incidentals) you will be sleeping in the dirt and sharing MREs because they didn't bring enough for everyone.

Also, all services are entitled to tuition assistance, that means the military will pay for your college courses while you are in the service, not just the GI Bill after you get out. As a Marine, you will be lucky if you are able to take advantage of that because they will screw with you non-stop.

Getting promoted is a lot tougher in the Marine Corps. You may have a friend who joined the Army the same time you joined the Marine Corps. I can almost guarantee that guy will be a Sergeant before you even get promoted to Corporal.

There are no sick days in the Marine Corps. (Okay, there are some) But you could have the flu/pneumonia and still be ordered to go to work. If you do make it to see a doc, you could have a temp of 103 they might prescribe you some Motrin and maybe give you the rest of the day off if you're lucky. And when you drag your dying body back to your company to give them your sick slip everyone will treat you like a piece of crap, because now someone else is going to have to pull weeds and pick up cigarette butts in your place. You might as well just have run up to your Commander and yelled, "Death to America!"

And not that this is a deal-breaker but unless you work in an office in a non-combat unit, the only awards and medals you will get are the mandatory ones that everyone else does. You can have a perfect service record, even go above and beyond, do a sergeant's job as a private/lance but you will never get an achievement medal. Meanwhile, your buddy in the Army will have 3 achievement medals for not having any cavities and waking up on time.

There is a place that is rumored to not be a soul-sucking hell hole. It's called "Airwing." But, that's not where you'll be going.

Now, some of these are generalizations but generally speaking that's the Marine Corps for you. It's tough, unforgiving and unappreciative. And god forbid if you have a family and children, you will put them through this pain with you and if you prioritize your family over the Marine Corps, you will be treated like a :poop:bag.

I don't say this to discourage you. I tell you this because that's the way it is. If you think you can handle all that, then go for it.

I recommend the Marine Corps to two types of people.

1. People who want to be a "Marine." Nothing else. They have no other aspirations. They want to serve in the United States Marine Corps just like their daddy/uncle/brother/whoever did.

2. People I hate.

If you just want some life experience, a paycheck, college money then join literally any other service. Don't join the Navy though. Their outfits are silly and you have to live on a ship for half a year at a time. Air Force is probably the most laid back and the Army is like the middle ground between the two.

:starsandstripes::beers::RogueChicken::spaceburger::cherrypie:MURICA!:cherrypie::spaceburger::RogueChicken::beers::starsandstripes:

Ohh I loved when Pauly Shore said yeah were gay and couldnt kiss each other and ended up in boot camp LOL

[theUSguy425]

引用自 Grey Angel：

引用自 theUSguy425：

I think I'd go to Kurdistan, if and after I do the Marines.

No one is helping the kurds except with hardware, they are doing the dirty work and taking the shaft. Putin had to leave cause he has intelligence unlike lawyers named billary or ex choom gang sell out obambi and he doesnt want to have to slay the eagle over no fly zones.

I would volunteer for the Kurds if I go through the marines.

引用自 BossGalaga：

引用自 theUSguy425：

A Marine recruiter came by my school yesterday (recruiters for all branches come in during lunch) and I was just considering the idea of joining the armed forces again. It will be difficult, but I think it would help me with disipline and paying for college.

What do you guys think?

The Marine Corps is the toughest of all the US military branches. Boot camp is 3 months long of being treated like human waste. Then if you're infantry you go to SOI for another 2 months. If you're non-infantry you go to combat training for another month.

If you go to a Marine recruiter and tell them you want to be I dunno...a computer guy...they'll be like, "No problem!" or "Yeah, whatever you want! You'd be perfect for that!" and then they'll ask you to sign a piece of paper. Don't. If you sign that paper, I guarantee you will get some crap job you don't want. It's called an "open contract." But the recruiter won't tell you that. He'll just want you to sign it.

Whe you get to your first duty station and...if you're lucky you get treated half a step up from human waste. They will screw with your mornings, days, nights and weekends. I spent 3+ years out of my 4 and change deployed or in the field.

If you have some sweetheart back home, almost guaranteed she is not going to wait for you. And if you meet a swell gal while you're in the Marine Corps, she will either be cheating on you because you're always gone or she just won't be able to handle all the bullcrap and tell you, "We should see other people."

You will do things pointless things repetitively. If there's an easier, more efficient, smarter, safer and quicker way to do something you can guarantee that's the way you will NEVER do it and god forbid you ask someone "Doesn't it make more sense to do it this way?"

The pay for all branches of the service is technically supposed to be the same but when any other service would be staying in a hotel and getting a hundred bucks or more in per diem (that's travel pay for food/lodging/incidentals) you will be sleeping in the dirt and sharing MREs because they didn't bring enough for everyone.

Also, all services are entitled to tuition assistance, that means the military will pay for your college courses while you are in the service, not just the GI Bill after you get out. As a Marine, you will be lucky if you are able to take advantage of that because they will screw with you non-stop.

Getting promoted is a lot tougher in the Marine Corps. You may have a friend who joined the Army the same time you joined the Marine Corps. I can almost guarantee that guy will be a Sergeant before you even get promoted to Corporal.

There are no sick days in the Marine Corps. (Okay, there are some) But you could have the flu/pneumonia and still be ordered to go to work. If you do make it to see a doc, you could have a temp of 103 they might prescribe you some Motrin and maybe give you the rest of the day off if you're lucky. And when you drag your dying body back to your company to give them your sick slip everyone will treat you like a piece of crap, because now someone else is going to have to pull weeds and pick up cigarette butts in your place. You might as well just have run up to your Commander and yelled, "Death to America!"

And not that this is a deal-breaker but unless you work in an office in a non-combat unit, the only awards and medals you will get are the mandatory ones that everyone else does. You can have a perfect service record, even go above and beyond, do a sergeant's job as a private/lance but you will never get an achievement medal. Meanwhile, your buddy in the Army will have 3 achievement medals for not having any cavities and waking up on time.

There is a place that is rumored to not be a soul-sucking hell hole. It's called "Airwing." But, that's not where you'll be going.

Now, some of these are generalizations but generally speaking that's the Marine Corps for you. It's tough, unforgiving and unappreciative. And god forbid if you have a family and children, you will put them through this pain with you and if you prioritize your family over the Marine Corps, you will be treated like a :poop:bag.

I don't say this to discourage you. I tell you this because that's the way it is. If you think you can handle all that, then go for it.

I recommend the Marine Corps to two types of people.

1. People who want to be a "Marine." Nothing else. They have no other aspirations. They want to serve in the United States Marine Corps just like their daddy/uncle/brother/whoever did.

2. People I hate.

If you just want some life experience, a paycheck, college money then join literally any other service. Don't join the Navy though. Their outfits are silly and you have to live on a ship for half a year at a time. Air Force is probably the most laid back and the Army is like the middle ground between the two.

:starsandstripes::beers::RogueChicken::spaceburger::cherrypie:MURICA!:cherrypie::spaceburger::RogueChicken::beers::starsandstripes:

Thanks for the advice, I have some decent grades, but I think I'll keep it on the table through senior year.

[Richard I]

There is no better job. Politicians and soldiers are the only people that really matter in life. Especially if you rise through the ranks.

[Tanya Degurechaff]

引用自 Adolf the Kraut：

There is no better job. Politicians and soldiers are the only people that really matter in life. Especially if you rise through the ranks.

Adolf still getting people killed i see.

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 Adolf the Kraut：

There is no better job. Politicians and soldiers are the only people that really matter in life. Especially if you rise through the ranks.

All heil!!!

引用自 theUSguy425：

引用自 Grey Angel：

No one is helping the kurds except with hardware, they are doing the dirty work and taking the shaft. Putin had to leave cause he has intelligence unlike lawyers named billary or ex choom gang sell out obambi and he doesnt want to have to slay the eagle over no fly zones.

I would volunteer for the Kurds if I go through the marines.

引用自 BossGalaga：

The Marine Corps is the toughest of all the US military branches. Boot camp is 3 months long of being treated like human waste. Then if you're infantry you go to SOI for another 2 months. If you're non-infantry you go to combat training for another month.

If you go to a Marine recruiter and tell them you want to be I dunno...a computer guy...they'll be like, "No problem!" or "Yeah, whatever you want! You'd be perfect for that!" and then they'll ask you to sign a piece of paper. Don't. If you sign that paper, I guarantee you will get some crap job you don't want. It's called an "open contract." But the recruiter won't tell you that. He'll just want you to sign it.

Whe you get to your first duty station and...if you're lucky you get treated half a step up from human waste. They will screw with your mornings, days, nights and weekends. I spent 3+ years out of my 4 and change deployed or in the field.

If you have some sweetheart back home, almost guaranteed she is not going to wait for you. And if you meet a swell gal while you're in the Marine Corps, she will either be cheating on you because you're always gone or she just won't be able to handle all the bullcrap and tell you, "We should see other people."

You will do things pointless things repetitively. If there's an easier, more efficient, smarter, safer and quicker way to do something you can guarantee that's the way you will NEVER do it and god forbid you ask someone "Doesn't it make more sense to do it this way?"

The pay for all branches of the service is technically supposed to be the same but when any other service would be staying in a hotel and getting a hundred bucks or more in per diem (that's travel pay for food/lodging/incidentals) you will be sleeping in the dirt and sharing MREs because they didn't bring enough for everyone.

Also, all services are entitled to tuition assistance, that means the military will pay for your college courses while you are in the service, not just the GI Bill after you get out. As a Marine, you will be lucky if you are able to take advantage of that because they will screw with you non-stop.

Getting promoted is a lot tougher in the Marine Corps. You may have a friend who joined the Army the same time you joined the Marine Corps. I can almost guarantee that guy will be a Sergeant before you even get promoted to Corporal.

There are no sick days in the Marine Corps. (Okay, there are some) But you could have the flu/pneumonia and still be ordered to go to work. If you do make it to see a doc, you could have a temp of 103 they might prescribe you some Motrin and maybe give you the rest of the day off if you're lucky. And when you drag your dying body back to your company to give them your sick slip everyone will treat you like a piece of crap, because now someone else is going to have to pull weeds and pick up cigarette butts in your place. You might as well just have run up to your Commander and yelled, "Death to America!"

And not that this is a deal-breaker but unless you work in an office in a non-combat unit, the only awards and medals you will get are the mandatory ones that everyone else does. You can have a perfect service record, even go above and beyond, do a sergeant's job as a private/lance but you will never get an achievement medal. Meanwhile, your buddy in the Army will have 3 achievement medals for not having any cavities and waking up on time.

There is a place that is rumored to not be a soul-sucking hell hole. It's called "Airwing." But, that's not where you'll be going.

Now, some of these are generalizations but generally speaking that's the Marine Corps for you. It's tough, unforgiving and unappreciative. And god forbid if you have a family and children, you will put them through this pain with you and if you prioritize your family over the Marine Corps, you will be treated like a :poop:bag.

I don't say this to discourage you. I tell you this because that's the way it is. If you think you can handle all that, then go for it.

I recommend the Marine Corps to two types of people.

1. People who want to be a "Marine." Nothing else. They have no other aspirations. They want to serve in the United States Marine Corps just like their daddy/uncle/brother/whoever did.

2. People I hate.

If you just want some life experience, a paycheck, college money then join literally any other service. Don't join the Navy though. Their outfits are silly and you have to live on a ship for half a year at a time. Air Force is probably the most laid back and the Army is like the middle ground between the two.

:starsandstripes::beers::RogueChicken::spaceburger::cherrypie:MURICA!:cherrypie::spaceburger::RogueChicken::beers::starsandstripes:

Thanks for the advice, I have some decent grades, but I think I'll keep it on the table through senior year.

Who said you need to go through boot camp for that?

[theUSguy425]

引用自 Grey Angel：

引用自 Adolf the Kraut：

There is no better job. Politicians and soldiers are the only people that really matter in life. Especially if you rise through the ranks.

All heil!!!

引用自 theUSguy425：

I would volunteer for the Kurds if I go through the marines.


Thanks for the advice, I have some decent grades, but I think I'll keep it on the table through senior year.

Who said you need to go through boot camp for that?

It would help, seeing that I barely shot anything about .45 caliber, let alone fighting in a combat zone.

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 theUSguy425：

引用自 Grey Angel：

All heil!!!


Who said you need to go through boot camp for that?

It would help, seeing that I barely shot anything about .45 caliber, let alone fighting in a combat zone.

Well if Kudish 18 year olds that kill rats can shoot an AK....

[theUSguy425]

引用自 Grey Angel：

引用自 theUSguy425：

It would help, seeing that I barely shot anything about .45 caliber, let alone fighting in a combat zone.

Well if Kudish 18 year olds that kill rats can shoot an AK....

They have more experience and age than me.

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 theUSguy425：

引用自 Grey Angel：

Well if Kudish 18 year olds that kill rats can shoot an AK....

They have more experience and age than me.

Ohh rly?

[C4Warr10r]

引用自 theUSguy425：

Thanks, I'm getting a lot of different and conflicting opinions on what to do.

And the only question you need to ask yourself is that when these people inevitably get in fights, will you be the one to fight for them? Do you have what it takes, the strength of character, the will, to become a Marine and lead the charge even when you don't agree with all of these people?

You will be held to a higher standard, and sometimes it is a very difficult thing to live up to. Trust me, how do you think I felt in Iraq and Afghanistan, hundreds of miles from any ocean, being told that I needed to not just fight a war, but also be police and build nations. That **** was not in my job description and I was given next to no training for it.

Even worse, my own people turned around and accidentally stabbed us all in the back by telling our enemies, guerillas, that they didn't want to continue operations. That's the last thing you ever want to tell guerillas, their whole MO is wearing down the will of people to fight because they can't win any other way. Almost the second that TVs started broadcasting dumba$$ politicians demanding that the troops return home, we got massacred. It's just lucky that Islamic ****tards have even less will to fight than the average French schoolgirl and could only keep up such reckless attacks for a few months or we really might have been in trouble.

And all that for a war most people don't even understand. To this day, the average American has no idea what we were or are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, because their leaders lied to them. It's not complicated, Saddam was going to buck the US dollar as the only currency for petroleum. Ghaddaffi tried the same crap and even Obama went after him. Afghanistan would love to do this, and it's also a prime ari base for thwarting the Chinese, who are ruthlessly expansionist. People can say what they like about American Imperialism, at least we go home after we fight a war. Well, unless someone asks us to provide for their defense, which a lot of countries do, including Afghanistan, at least officially.

See what a bunch of tripe this stuff is? It's a royal pain in the a$$, being the tip of the spear in such a confusing and muddled world. But it has to be done by somebody.

And you know what? We never lost a ****in' battle. Not one. I'm not just talking about victories on the battlefield, I mean we never lost sight of our missions, all of them. If America wants nation-builders and police, if they want to spread ideals of freedom, then that was damn well what we were going to do.

No matter what the nation's foreign policy was, I made a lot of Iraqi and Afghani friends. I was kind, I had a smile for them, I tried to learn their languages and culture. Ironically, once I really got to know them I was more conviinced than ever that these people needed to be stopped, but I won even that battle. Nothing is better for winning people over than capitalism.

I **** you not, I used to get Iraqis and Afghanis by the truckload to perform manual labor around the FOBs. There was never a shortage of volunteers because American dollars were like gold, even though they only got paid $7 a day. Much better than what they would make anywhere else, but not enough to really incentivize them. They were worse laborers than they were soldiers.

So I decided to bring them capitalism. The rules were simple, any man who could do as much work as me would get a bonus. Filling sandbags, loading them, building frame walls, whatever. Whoever did the most work would get an even bigger bonus, I'd double their pay for the day.

The transformation was like magic. Suddenly, instead of the friggin' local tribal militias and a bunch of poor sods, I had a dedicated workforce who adored me and capitalism. I don't know how many invitations I got to come meet families and visit homes, which is kind of a thing there but rather uncommon when it comes to foreign troops unless somebody is planning something sneaky. But these guys, not like that, I could tell because they wanted to introduce me to daughters. That **** really IS unheard-of. But every day, there they were, showing me pictures of their daughters, getting me to take pictures with them.

To this day, I'm convinced that a few of those "Oh, ****!" moments where an insurgent looked like he had me dead to rights and somehow didn't see me, not to mention convoys that didn't get attacked, were because I really connected with those men. They knew me, the left-handed machine-gunner, they knew my trucks, and so they simply opted for other targets.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I just had a guardian angel, which I also believe in. Does it matter? Still never lost a battle.

Nor will I ever lose one. I simply cannot be defeated, even when people think I am defeated. That's what being a Marine is about, having ultimate faith. Doesn't matter exactly what in, but all good Marines have it, at least in each other.

If you can become one of us and actually prove your worth in the Fleet, survive and prosper in our world, you will always have that faith, and lifelong companionship besides. Other people form fraternities. Lame. Being a US Marine, a decent one, gains you automatic acceptance from any other Marine. Doesn't matter if you're an a$$hole, we know we're a$$holes, we've lived with each other long enough. You want a job or a hand when you're down? Look no further, brother.

Indeed, I owe my current position as Trainmaster in civilian life to another Marine. Supposedly this job requires a college degree. And supposedly Fallujah couldn't be pacified. Blow me, "couldn't." I'll kill you.

But before you ever get those rewards, you have to ask yourself if you have this kind of drive and strength of character. The Drill Instuctors can impart quite a bit, but they can't do everything for you and they'll let you know it. Ultimately, it comes down to a question of personal honor.

Can you be one of us? Can you be one of the Few, the Proud, the Marines? No surprise we also have the best PR. ****in' Marines, I love 'em.

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 C4Warr10r：

引用自 theUSguy425：

Thanks, I'm getting a lot of different and conflicting opinions on what to do.

And the only question you need to ask yourself is that when these people inevitably get in fights, will you be the one to fight for them? Do you have what it takes, the strength of character, the will, to become a Marine and lead the charge even when you don't agree with all of these people?

You will be held to a higher standard, and sometimes it is a very difficult thing to live up to. Trust me, how do you think I felt in Iraq and Afghanistan, hundreds of miles from any ocean, being told that I needed to not just fight a war, but also be police and build nations. That **** was not in my job description and I was given next to no training for it.

Even worse, my own people turned around and accidentally stabbed us all in the back by telling our enemies, guerillas, that they didn't want to continue operations. That's the last thing you ever want to tell guerillas, their whole MO is wearing down the will of people to fight because they can't win any other way. Almost the second that TVs started broadcasting dumba$$ politicians demanding that the troops return home, we got massacred. It's just lucky that Islamic ****tards have even less will to fight than the average French schoolgirl and could only keep up such reckless attacks for a few months or we really might have been in trouble.

And all that for a war most people don't even understand. To this day, the average American has no idea what we were or are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, because their leaders lied to them. It's not complicated, Saddam was going to buck the US dollar as the only currency for petroleum. Ghaddaffi tried the same crap and even Obama went after him. Afghanistan would love to do this, and it's also a prime ari base for thwarting the Chinese, who are ruthlessly expansionist. People can say what they like about American Imperialism, at least we go home after we fight a war. Well, unless someone asks us to provide for their defense, which a lot of countries do, including Afghanistan, at least officially.

See what a bunch of tripe this stuff is? It's a royal pain in the a$$, being the tip of the spear in such a confusing and muddled world. But it has to be done by somebody.

And you know what? We never lost a ****in' battle. Not one. I'm not just talking about victories on the battlefield, I mean we never lost sight of our missions, all of them. If America wants nation-builders and police, if they want to spread ideals of freedom, then that was damn well what we were going to do.

No matter what the nation's foreign policy was, I made a lot of Iraqi and Afghani friends. I was kind, I had a smile for them, I tried to learn their languages and culture. Ironically, once I really got to know them I was more conviinced than ever that these people needed to be stopped, but I won even that battle. Nothing is better for winning people over than capitalism.

I **** you not, I used to get Iraqis and Afghanis by the truckload to perform manual labor around the FOBs. There was never a shortage of volunteers because American dollars were like gold, even though they only got paid $7 a day. Much better than what they would make anywhere else, but not enough to really incentivize them. They were worse laborers than they were soldiers.

So I decided to bring them capitalism. The rules were simple, any man who could do as much work as me would get a bonus. Filling sandbags, loading them, building frame walls, whatever. Whoever did the most work would get an even bigger bonus, I'd double their pay for the day.

The transformation was like magic. Suddenly, instead of the friggin' local tribal militias and a bunch of poor sods, I had a dedicated workforce who adored me and capitalism. I don't know how many invitations I got to come meet families and visit homes, which is kind of a thing there but rather uncommon when it comes to foreign troops unless somebody is planning something sneaky. But these guys, not like that, I could tell because they wanted to introduce me to daughters. That **** really IS unheard-of. But every day, there they were, showing me pictures of their daughters, getting me to take pictures with them.

To this day, I'm convinced that a few of those "Oh, ****!" moments where an insurgent looked like he had me dead to rights and somehow didn't see me, not to mention convoys that didn't get attacked, were because I really connected with those men. They knew me, the left-handed machine-gunner, they knew my trucks, and so they simply opted for other targets.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I just had a guardian angel, which I also believe in. Does it matter? Still never lost a battle.

Nor will I ever lose one. I simply cannot be defeated, even when people think I am defeated. That's what being a Marine is about, having ultimate faith. Doesn't matter exactly what in, but all good Marines have it, at least in each other.

If you can become one of us and actually prove your worth in the Fleet, survive and prosper in our world, you will always have that faith, and lifelong companionship besides. Other people form fraternities. Lame. Being a US Marine, a decent one, gains you automatic acceptance from any other Marine. Doesn't matter if you're an a$$hole, we know we're a$$holes, we've lived with each other long enough. You want a job or a hand when you're down? Look no further, brother.

Indeed, I owe my current position as Trainmaster in civilian life to another Marine. Supposedly this job requires a college degree. And supposedly Fallujah couldn't be pacified. Blow me, "couldn't." I'll kill you.

But before you ever get those rewards, you have to ask yourself if you have this kind of drive and strength of character. The Drill Instuctors can impart quite a bit, but they can't do everything for you and they'll let you know it. Ultimately, it comes down to a question of personal honor.

Can you be one of us? Can you be one of the Few, the Proud, the Marines? No surprise we also have the best PR. ****in' Marines, I love 'em.

They should hire you to make recruiting comercials....

OP live your life, forget about that crap. Fighting for a cause is nobel but in the end yes you could end up dead or worst rat prisoner.

As for training an 18 yr old Kurds has more experience, I doubt that. Hey I learned how to make mollys at 13 go figure.....

[ostar]

引用自 Grey Angel：

引用自 ostar：

If I was to go, it would have been the air force.

Less hoorah/grab ass, more technical positions that transfer to higher paying real world jobs when the time came, and less likely to see combat.

I see so use military to get educated? Ohh great free education that pays, :puts wardaddy voice: :drinks up: "Best job I evar had!!!"

What?

引用自 Grey Angel：

At least in Russia

oic, drunk russian rambling about a country he knows nothing about.

lulz

[M.A.F.I.A Cannoli]

引用自 ostar：

引用自 Grey Angel：

I see so use military to get educated? Ohh great free education that pays, :puts wardaddy voice: :drinks up: "Best job I evar had!!!"

What?

引用自 Grey Angel：

At least in Russia

oic, drunk russian rambling about a country he knows nothing about.

lulz

ROFL

Stereotypes. Ignorace is bliss right?

Drunk? nah
Russian? hmm well I learned their ideolegy by livng with 5 soviets... come again?

Who am I? Dont worry What am I where am I from? Im from everhwhere!!!

Its ok patriot keep it up, bear claw wounds are deep