theUSguy425 (已封鎖) 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 5:26
Should I join the Marines?
A Marine recruiter came by my school yesterday (recruiters for all branches come in during lunch) and I was just considering the idea of joining the armed forces again. It will be difficult, but I think it would help me with disipline and paying for college.

What do you guys think?
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Vince ✟ 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 6:59 
Support the troops, not the bad politicians. Troops are a good thing lol. If you want to hate/change something.. this is the season to go get involved no doubt.
最後修改者:Vince ✟; 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 6:59
Blessed Evelyn 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:01 
Do what you feel is best. I've no plans for junior ROTC or anything anytime soon, but if you feel that you can do it, go for it.
M.A.F.I.A Cannoli 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:03 
引用自 Vassl
Support the troops, not the bad politicians. Troops are a good thing lol. If you want to hate/change something.. this is the season to go get involved no doubt.
Ohh and who doesnt? Considering treatment when they get home.....

Politicians as Ozzy said, they leave the fighting to the poor.
Lily 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:04 
You know that just because you join the army or the marines or whatever, doesn't always mean you'll be out in the battlefield, right? There are other jobs available for people who want to join the military besides combat.

Although politics aside, even if you were out in active combat I don't think the goal is ever to just kill indescriminately.
I am aware of that, but nevertheless, the primary function of any military is to kill. True, not everyone may do it or have a direct hand in it, but it's what they're all there to do.

And I'm not even being political about it. I could say that all wars are pointless wastes of life, that militaries only exist to perpetuate the power of the ruling elite, but I'm not. Just saying the obvious: soldiers kill, and since that is something I personally could never do, I must recommend against it.
最後修改者:Lily; 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:04
M.A.F.I.A Cannoli 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:08 
引用自 Gustave5436
You know that just because you join the army or the marines or whatever, doesn't always mean you'll be out in the battlefield, right? There are other jobs available for people who want to join the military besides combat.

Although politics aside, even if you were out in active combat I don't think the goal is ever to just kill indescriminately.
I am aware of that, but nevertheless, the primary function of any military is to kill. True, not everyone may do it or have a direct hand in it, but it's what they're all there to do.

And I'm not even being political about it. I could say that all wars are pointless wastes of life, that militaries only exist to perpetuate the power of the ruling elite, but I'm not. Just saying the obvious: soldiers kill, and since that is something I personally could never do, I must recommend against it.
Gustave we meet again comrade by your flag im guessing you know what anarchist militias were that used that flag? No military no police, just anarchist militias. Perfect utopian society they created.

But what you must realize is that many join not due to patriotism, but comercials with a marine slaying a dragon with his sword or uhh be army strong. Roman legion promises all over again
Unexpected 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:08 
no
Vince ✟ 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:11 
I'll also note for the OP that it does indeed pay for college. That fact is 100% legit. You even get a housing allowance that is quite a bit, as well as free books.. which is huge considering one semesters books alone can reach almost $500-$800. I suggest you opt in for any "boosters" "supplements" etc that they offer to your Post 9/11 GI bill plan, as they are almost all worth it. 4 years you get out with a set of blues that makes the ladies wet, the punks on the corner sweat, and everyone wants to hire you. College is a breeze because you learned discipline and some study skills (yes in the Marines), and you will have benefits for life, to include your family. You'll also have an inner pride that will leave you nigh unbreakable for the rest of your life, especially when compared to mere mortals in the civilian sector :P Yea, enlist if you can.


And like I said in my first post. Not every Marine is a grunt. Theres a very large amount that probably forget time to time how to clean their rifle. They are sitll Marines in every way. From boxing team and the band, to intel, engineers, administration, pilots, hazmat, I mean obviously the list is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ long. Everyone pictures the Devildog killer lol.... now, I could introduce you to some fellas that would just as soon rip your face off and wear it to your mommas house for a laugh, as shake your hand, but its not like we are all like that.






Not everyone can/wants to/will sign up to be a modern day Spartan Warrior. There is a reason it is such a small branch vs the army, etc.


I still say go for it. You will surprise yourself.
最後修改者:Vince ✟; 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:38
theUSguy425 (已封鎖) 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:11 
引用自 Gustave5436
You know that just because you join the army or the marines or whatever, doesn't always mean you'll be out in the battlefield, right? There are other jobs available for people who want to join the military besides combat.

Although politics aside, even if you were out in active combat I don't think the goal is ever to just kill indescriminately.
I am aware of that, but nevertheless, the primary function of any military is to kill. True, not everyone may do it or have a direct hand in it, but it's what they're all there to do.

And I'm not even being political about it. I could say that all wars are pointless wastes of life, ant that militaries only exist to perpetuate the power of the ruling elite, but I'm not. Just saying the obvious: soldiers kill, and since that is something I personally could never do, I must recommend against it.
If I have to kill, and will some deep consideration of if I'm okay with killing the enemy, then I'll have to. I think I should pay some respects and provide some service for my country. Sure, I think the United States can be very disfunctional at times, dominated by a two-party system, filled with ethnic tension, removing liberty in the name of safety, and maybe even destablizing nations.

But, it's my home. I need to do something for it, and military service might be one of them. The only way for us to really leave the 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it.
theUSguy425 (已封鎖) 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:13 
引用自 Vassl
I'll also note for the OP that it does indeed pay for college. That fact is 100% legit. You even get a housing allowance that is quite a bit, as well as free books.. which is huge considering one semesters books alone can reach almost $500-$800. I suggest you opt in for any "boosters" "supplements" etc that they offer to your Post 9/11 GI bill plan, as they are almost all worth it. 4 years you get out with a set of blues that makes the ladies wet, the boys sweat, and everyone wants to hire you. College is a breeze because you learned discipline and some study skills (yes in the Marines), and you will have benefits for life, to include your family. You'll also have an inner pride that will leave you nigh unbreakable for the rest of your life, especially when compared to mere mortals in the civilian sector :P Yea, enlist if you can.
Thanks man, I've been considering this for some time after highschool. I'll see how I feel around Senior year. They have a site and I picked up some info packets.
M.A.F.I.A Cannoli 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:14 
引用自 theUSguy425
引用自 Gustave5436
I am aware of that, but nevertheless, the primary function of any military is to kill. True, not everyone may do it or have a direct hand in it, but it's what they're all there to do.

And I'm not even being political about it. I could say that all wars are pointless wastes of life, ant that militaries only exist to perpetuate the power of the ruling elite, but I'm not. Just saying the obvious: soldiers kill, and since that is something I personally could never do, I must recommend against it.
If I have to kill, and will some deep consideration of if I'm okay with killing the enemy, then I'll have to. I think I should pay some respects and provide some service for my country. Sure, I think the United States can be very disfunctional at times, dominated by a two-party system, filled with ethnic tension, removing liberty in the name of safety, and maybe even destablizing nations.

But, it's my home. I need to do something for it, and military service might be one of them. The only way for us to really leave the 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it.
New meme I shall make, " 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it." -TheUSguy ze Patriot!!!!

My advice dont try to police bears......
theUSguy425 (已封鎖) 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:27 
引用自 Grey Angel
引用自 theUSguy425
If I have to kill, and will some deep consideration of if I'm okay with killing the enemy, then I'll have to. I think I should pay some respects and provide some service for my country. Sure, I think the United States can be very disfunctional at times, dominated by a two-party system, filled with ethnic tension, removing liberty in the name of safety, and maybe even destablizing nations.

But, it's my home. I need to do something for it, and military service might be one of them. The only way for us to really leave the 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it.
New meme I shall make, " 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it." -TheUSguy ze Patriot!!!!

My advice dont try to police bears......
You didn't even include the first part of my sentence.
kaboomboom 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:28 
I will tell you the same thing I tell all the young men in my family regarding the American military.

First, lets dispel this idea of serving your country, you are not. You are serving the ultra-rich elite 0.00001% and the corporations that own our government. You are not serving your country.

We (the USA) invade other countries not for defense but to control, intimidate, and loot other nations. I would call it evil, but the sad fact is we live in a world where other nations would do it to us if they could. We live in a world full of A S S holes. So I consider what we do to be morally neutral.

So here is the deal, they will use you and abuse you. They don't care for you, you are a disposable resource to them. They will use you, but not for your benefit but for the benefit of the rich. Please understand this up front and have no illusions about what you will be doing.

With that understood, going into the military is only a good decision if you plan on using them in return. If this is the only way you can afford to go to college, and that is what you want, then go for it. Selling yourself into slavery for 4 years and risking life or limb for profit is a time honored tradition.

However, if you have any options that are better, you should take them.

Do you have better options?
Lily 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:28 
引用自 theUSguy425
If I have to kill, and will some deep consideration of if I'm okay with killing the enemy, then I'll have to. I think I should pay some respects and provide some service for my country. Sure, I think the United States can be very disfunctional at times, dominated by a two-party system, filled with ethnic tension, removing liberty in the name of safety, and maybe even destablizing nations.

But, it's my home. I need to do something for it, and military service might be one of them. The only way for us to really leave the 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it.
Well, without getting political, all I can say is to be sure that you going into soldier work, over and above more peaceful forms of community service, is the best possible way to improve the lives of the people around you.
引用自 kaboomboom
With that understood, going into the military is only a good decision if you plan on using them in return. If this is the only way you can afford to go to college, and that is what you want, then go for it. Selling yourself into slavery for 4 years and risking life or limb for profit is a time honored tradition.
Yeah, there is that angle. With our rigid class structure being the way it is, I won't fault anyone for taking one of the few opportunities available to them. But that's pretty much the only reason I could ever comprehend for it.
最後修改者:Lily; 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:32
theUSguy425 (已封鎖) 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:32 
引用自 kaboomboom
I will tell you the same thing I tell all the young men in my family regarding the American military.

First, lets dispel this idea of serving your country, you are not. You are serving the ultra-rich elite 0.00001% and the corporations that own our government. You are not serving your country.

We (the USA) invade other countries not for defense but to control, intimidate, and loot other nations. I would call it evil, but the sad fact is we live in a world where other nations would do it to us if they could. We live in a world full of A S S holes. So I consider what we do to be morally neutral.

So here is the deal, they will use you and abuse you. They don't care for you, you are a disposable resource to them. They will use you, but not for your benefit but for the benefit of the rich. Please understand this up front and have no illusions about what you will be doing.

With that understood, going into the military is only a good decision if you plan on using them in return. If this is the only way you can afford to go to college, and that is what you want, then go for it. Selling yourself into slavery for 4 years and risking life or limb for profit is a time honored tradition.

However, if you have any options that are better, you should take them.

Do you have better options?
I have good grades, but I'm still thinking of armed forces. There's always the National Guard if the Marines don't work out.

引用自 Gustave5436
引用自 theUSguy425
If I have to kill, and will some deep consideration of if I'm okay with killing the enemy, then I'll have to. I think I should pay some respects and provide some service for my country. Sure, I think the United States can be very disfunctional at times, dominated by a two-party system, filled with ethnic tension, removing liberty in the name of safety, and maybe even destablizing nations.

But, it's my home. I need to do something for it, and military service might be one of them. The only way for us to really leave the 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it.
Well, without getting political, all I can say is to be sure that you going into soldier work, over and above more peaceful forms of community service, is the best possible way to improve the lives of the people around you.
Maybe I might get involved in non-lethal work, who knows.
M.A.F.I.A Cannoli 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:34 
引用自 Gustave5436
引用自 theUSguy425
If I have to kill, and will some deep consideration of if I'm okay with killing the enemy, then I'll have to. I think I should pay some respects and provide some service for my country. Sure, I think the United States can be very disfunctional at times, dominated by a two-party system, filled with ethnic tension, removing liberty in the name of safety, and maybe even destablizing nations.

But, it's my home. I need to do something for it, and military service might be one of them. The only way for us to really leave the 'Police of the World' attitude we have is for someone else having to take our place and do it.
Well, without getting political, all I can say is to be sure that you going into soldier work, over and above more peaceful forms of community service, is the best possible way to improve the lives of the people around you.
引用自 kaboomboom
With that understood, going into the military is only a good decision if you plan on using them in return. If this is the only way you can afford to go to college, and that is what you want, then go for it. Selling yourself into slavery for 4 years and risking life or limb for profit is a time honored tradition.
Yeah, there is that angle. With our rigid class structure being the way it is, I won't fault anyone for taking one of the few opportunities available to them. But that's pretty much the only reason I could ever comprehend for it.
They are led to beleive they dont have oportunities. In fact I think the construction site pays better then ze new roman legion. Well at least the military in US is semi disciplined, although met plent of grunts that smoked hash all day in Iraq. Close friend overseas went to foreign military, I should have went with him, he said it was fun, trip and get stoned all day while sgt wakes them u p with whiskey.......
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