tor browser and fire.onion

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Quantum 1 Ιουλ 2016, 3:08

i was wondering if my isp could see what im doing on these applications while browsing the web. i used the fire.onion app on my android phone to browse the dank web, but didnt visit anything illegal. just sketchy sites trying to sell iphones that might be stolen, normal forums, music radio station sites that you have to choose to listen to. if they do see it will they turn off my interwebs? i myself have never used tor, so im talking specifically about fire.onion. however i still would like to know information on tor too.

Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Quantum; 1 Ιουλ 2016, 3:12

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76561198205901381 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:16

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ostar:
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True.

1. Linux Tails OS (runs on USB and deletes every digital trace).
2. Tor browser with bridges, noscript and https everywhere (installed by default, but settings needs to be adjusted).
3. VPN connections set to run with Tor.
4. Change your internet habits.

This is a good start.

ISP used would see...

1. linux tails os client connected at XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX IP address with MAC address XX.XX.XX.XX.XX.XX.XX.XX

2. Most end points (the websites themselves) and the websites' ISPs would be able to see all the traffic, just not where it's going. Still gets MAC info.

3. Depends entirely what level encription someone can break who is listening in with packet sniffers. ISPs on both ends and anywhere inbetween can see all the traffic, just need to break into it.

4. Meh.

The things I mentioned are supposed to be run at the same time/client. It's definitely the best way to become anonymous on the internet.

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theUSguy425 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:21

You need to use a Linux-based OS that doesn't track you and a VPN so your ISP doesn't know you're using Tor. They can't see what your browsing, but they know you're using it.

I downloaded it once on windows and no VPN, I'm probably on a list.

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ostar 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:34

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pork Eating Crusader:
The things I mentioned are supposed to be run at the same time/client. It's definitely the best way to become anonymous on the internet.

Right.

What I posted is what can still be seen, even if you're using a VPN and a proxy (I think tor uses a built in proxy service).

You're using the ISPs network. On both ends (yours and the website's ISP). And any that are inbetween.

There are usually a lot inbetween (like the VPN and proxy that you yourself involved).

They can still see where traffic is going until it hits the proxy. Then the people running the proxy know where it's going from there.

And at any point, they can packet sniff and attempt decryption if they felt like it.

You're not as anonymous as you think you are.

Τελευταία επεξεργασία από ostar; 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:37

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Mr. Rubber Ducky 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:35

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pork Eating Crusader:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από r u serious:
I didn't said 100% of deep web is illegal websites, i just said that they do exist.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από r u serious:
Everything is illegal in deep web.
Retarted websites. NSFW. Drug selling. Weird movies.
Oh, don't ever visit porn websites on Deep Web @OP or you will have trouble.
Sure you did.

My bad i didn't meant that way.

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ostar 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:36

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They can't see what your browsing

They can if they wanted.

You're just probably not worth them pursuing legal recourse at the expense of them getting a reputation for turning in, or even spying on, their customers.

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Mr. Rubber Ducky 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:37

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ostar:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από theUSguy425 (on vacation):
They can't see what your browsing

They can if they wanted.

You're just probably not worth them pursuing legal recourse at the expense of them getting a reputation for turning in, or even spying on, their customers.

Oh boy then ISP must having a good time watching my site history. Dx

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76561198205901381 1 Ιουλ 2016, 6:38

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ostar:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pork Eating Crusader:
The things I mentioned are supposed to be run at the same time/client. It's definitely the best way to become anonymous on the internet.

Right.

What I posted is what can still be seen, even if you're using a VPN and a proxy (I think tor uses a built in proxy service).

You're using the ISPs network. On both ends (yours and the website's ISP). And any that are inbetween.

There are usually a lot inbetween (like the VPN that you yourself involved).

They can still see where traffic is going until it hits the proxy. Then the people running the proxy know where it's going from there.

And at any point, they can packet sniff and attempt decryption if they felt like it.

You're not as anonymous as you think you are.

The things I mentioned will hide your activity to your ISP. It's also crucial to use Tails OS (or something similar) to erase your digital traces.

I'm also aware, that nothing is 100% certain with IT, but things are still possible.

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ostar 1 Ιουλ 2016, 7:04

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pork Eating Crusader:
The things I mentioned will hide your activity to your ISP.

It might slightly hide your activity, but only because looking into you is not worth it.

Both because of the reputation the ISP will get if found out.

And because of numbers. You're one out of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions, of users.

In fact, attempting to conceal yourself so heavily can even raise red flags.

Τελευταία επεξεργασία από ostar; 1 Ιουλ 2016, 7:04

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76561198205901381 1 Ιουλ 2016, 7:09

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pork Eating Crusader:
The things I mentioned will hide your activity to your ISP.

It might slightly hide your activity, but only because looking into you is not worth it.

Both because of the reputation the ISP will get if found out.

And because of numbers. You're one out of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions, of users.

In fact, attempting to conceal yourself so heavily can even raise red flags.

You assume government employees can do whatever they want, which is definitely false. There is a reason so many hackers are doing well, and the ones who do get caught, is cause they were bragging or made some mistakes along the way.

Governments are also hiring hackers, because they are aware of their 'skills'.

Bottomline, it's definitely possible to make yourself anonymous.

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theUSguy425 1 Ιουλ 2016, 7:12

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pork Eating Crusader:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ostar:

It might slightly hide your activity, but only because looking into you is not worth it.

Both because of the reputation the ISP will get if found out.

And because of numbers. You're one out of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions, of users.

In fact, attempting to conceal yourself so heavily can even raise red flags.
You assume government employees can do whatever they want, which is definitely false. There is a reason so many hackers are doing well, and the ones who do get caught, is cause they were bragging or made some mistakes along the way.

Governments are also hiring hackers, because they are aware of their 'skills'.

Bottomline, it's definitely possible to make yourself anonymous.

It's actually a big problem for government organizations, they're fairly behind with this stuff.