What exactly is ice bucket challenge?

[Mar+in]

It doesn't say you have to put ice cold water just "ice water". Does that mean ice + hot water count ?

[Naedmi]

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q2:

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

And after looking videos of this up, do you see more men or more women?

Seen more men doing it.

Well then, I stand corrected. But it still is a pretty silly social media thing going around right now. we need scientists researching. Not people dunking cold water on eachother

[Randy GaySexy]

Messaggio originale di Asteo600:

To respond to the title: another abomination to post on Facebook (AMEN for saying that infected site name, I need to go to church and prey) and get likes (because of course, likes keep you healthy and warm, who could say otherwise, no?)
It's just the new trend, like Gangnam Style, Harlem Shake were..
It will soon get forgotten because another mind abomination pops up.
I respect people that don't do it just to appear on Internet or to be ''cool''.
Hope they get what they deserve = a NICE cold right before they were planning to go to beach.
Happy Holiday Ice Bucketters, get likes from hospital..

--society--

You idiot. Its for ALS. also pls dont undermine fb when youre just another cancer spot on youtube...

[Fork_Q2]

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q2:

Seen more men doing it.

Well then, I stand corrected. But it still is a pretty silly social media thing going around right now. we need scientists researching. Not people dunking cold water on eachother

Let's be fair here, no one thinks The Rock, Robert Downey Junior, Chris Pratt or the Kardasians were ever going to be scientists. Rather their money went to research then another yacht.

[Randy GaySexy]

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q2:

Seen more men doing it.

Well then, I stand corrected. But it still is a pretty silly social media thing going around right now. we need scientists researching. Not people dunking cold water on eachother

First of all the money is going to scientists who research.

Second. The company whos receiving all the donations for ALS research, does all its tests on animals. So youre just contributing to unhealthy tests done on animals.

[Naedmi]

Messaggio originale di ilu2:

research, does all its tests on animals. So youre just contributing to unhealthy tests done on animals.

Would you prefer research to be done on people?

[Randy GaySexy]

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Messaggio originale di ilu2:

research, does all its tests on animals. So youre just contributing to unhealthy tests done on animals.

Would you prefer research to be done on people?

Yes actually I would prefer its done on volunteers.

[Naedmi]

Messaggio originale di 2muchdank:

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Would you prefer research to be done on people?

Yes actually I would prefer its done on volunteers.

Would someone volunteer if their life is on the line?

For every action is a consequence neither good nor bad.

Animals may die, but it is to try and find a cure for many sicknesses. I may sound cold hearted but I would rather see an animal then a human being poked and prodded any day.

[Fork_Q2]

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Messaggio originale di 2muchdank:

Yes actually I would prefer its done on volunteers.

Would someone volunteer if their life is on the line?

For every action is a consequence neither good nor bad.

Animals may die, but it is to try and find a cure for many sicknesses. I may sound cold hearted but I would rather see an animal then a human being poked and prodded any day.

Just Fork_Q's two pence.

In favour of less animals dying for medical research if possible, that would certainly be a moral improvement; but animals are used primarily for testing how toxic the chemicals and medicines are, which is why at that stage human volunteers are almost never used. Have to agree with Dean here.

[Hopper]

Messaggio originale di 2muchdank:

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Would you prefer research to be done on people?

Yes actually I would prefer its done on volunteers.

So you would prefer more organisms of other species dying rather than members of your own species? I see no logic in this. Part of humanity's rising to be the dominant species of Earth involved hunting animals.

[gleofrocga]

Messaggio originale di 2muchdank:

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Well then, I stand corrected. But it still is a pretty silly social media thing going around right now. we need scientists researching. Not people dunking cold water on eachother

First of all the money is going to scientists who research.

Second. The company whos receiving all the donations for ALS research, does all its tests on animals. So youre just contributing to unhealthy tests done on animals.

Morals is the last thing scientists bother with when trying to cure a disease...

[Fork_Q2]

Messaggio originale di Keyes:

Messaggio originale di 2muchdank:

First of all the money is going to scientists who research.

Second. The company whos receiving all the donations for ALS research, does all its tests on animals. So youre just contributing to unhealthy tests done on animals.

Morals is the last thing scientists bother with when trying to cure a disease...

Science depends entirely on morality, there would be no progress if scientists simply fabricate and make up research as they go along. Research conducted on animals is very tightly regulated with ethical considerations for the test animals welfare balanced with their utility to the research's aims.

[gleofrocga]

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q2:

Messaggio originale di Keyes:

Morals is the last thing scientists bother with when trying to cure a disease...

Science depends entirely on morality, there would be no progress if scientists simply fabricate and make up research as they go along. Research conducted on animals is very tightly regulated with ethical considerations for the test animals welfare balanced with their utility to the research's aims.

I shouldn't have said it in a general term. I don't mean by scientists just creating fake claims. I'm sure in a mad scientists reverie, ethical considerations for a virtuous hamster would be thrown out the window. And then you read the Sunday Independant, will a big black header, "MND Cured!" Through vigorous testing, and the loss of 500 or so hamsters, this disease will no longer pose a threat!"

It's 3am, I probably haven't thought this out clearly, but feel free to criticise...

[Trikki Nikki]

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q2:

Messaggio originale di TheDean:

Would someone volunteer if their life is on the line?

For every action is a consequence neither good nor bad.

Animals may die, but it is to try and find a cure for many sicknesses. I may sound cold hearted but I would rather see an animal then a human being poked and prodded any day.

Just Fork_Q's two pence.

In favour of less animals dying for medical research if possible, that would certainly be a moral improvement; but animals are used primarily for testing how toxic the chemicals and medicines are, which is why at that stage human volunteers are almost never used. Have to agree with Dean here.

Agreed here. I'd rather have animals be tested on than volunteers, because really, who is going to volunteer for that?

Which after typing this, I started thinking. What would the world be like without humanity? I know it's unrelated, but still. Would animals continue to evolve as the world changes? Would Extinction practically stop?

[76561198117027862]

Who cares about what happens to animals ?
If you value the lives of animals more than that of humans, some thing is seriously wrong here. Sure if they were to face extinction and are required to maintain balance, or if they are useful otherwise then it is of a concern. But that is not the context here.

And what is with the idiocy of people who think up and do such challenges ?

(Both questions are rhetorical in nature)

[JumboBrotato]

since the desease is about being paralized, the iced water represents being paralized for a few seconds if you pour it over yourself, thats why they are doing it