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Should video gaming be considered a sport?
Like eSports becoming a legitimate sport :coop:
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Bad Aim 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:42 
引用自 Fork_Q
引用自 Talon
Yes pressing keys involved physical movement, but no. It was not a "physical activity" or exertion. Exertion implies strenuous effort.

"Physical activity" does not imply exertion, that is entirely your own invention.

He actually got that (as I did) from Google. If you google "sport" (without the quote marks) you get a definition that includes exertion.
Ranko 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:44 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
引用自 Fork_Q

"Physical activity" does not imply exertion, that is entirely your own invention.

He actually got that (as I did) from Google. If you google "sport" (without the quote marks) you get a definition that includes exertion.
I found it more funny that after he googled that, he never looked into the definition of exertion, which still leaves such a large amount of possibilities that it even can include me getting up to grab a drink.
SlyMeerkat 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:46 
Yes defintely, its way much better than todays sport which is boring..... With gaming as sport, i would fully take part in it, support it, watch it and do everything else based around it :D
Fork_Q2 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:49 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
引用自 Fork_Q

"Physical activity" does not imply exertion, that is entirely your own invention.

He actually got that (as I did) from Google. If you google "sport" (without the quote marks) you get a definition that includes exertion.

That is one such definition, but not in others. If you look at the others he provided: under some definitions "competitiveness" is optional, it isn't to others. Each of those definitions would rule out many activities many consider sports, the Wikipedia one seems to rule out non-group games as sports. Motor-cross and car racing is ruled out in half, also.

He's engaging in what is called "no True Scotsman", by arbitrarily ruling out activities as sports.

He just seems angry all the time he posts here, everyone who disagrees "must" be an idiot. Maybe he should take up a sport to calm down or something.
最后由 Fork_Q2 编辑于; 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:50
Bad Aim 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:51 
引用自 Malik Blishtar
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones

He actually got that (as I did) from Google. If you google "sport" (without the quote marks) you get a definition that includes exertion.
I found it more funny that after he googled that, he never looked into the definition of exertion, which still leaves such a large amount of possibilities that it even can include me getting up to grab a drink.

Without looking at the formal definition of "exertion", I would think that it would vary from person to person. Someone who is morbidly obese, who uses a mobility scooter to get around, would find getting up to get a glass of water to be extreamly exhausting.

I power walk about 8km a day. This is an activity I have done for over 10 years. So walking the .8km to the store is nothing to me, where it might be vary hard for someone else.
Ranko 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:56 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
引用自 Malik Blishtar
I found it more funny that after he googled that, he never looked into the definition of exertion, which still leaves such a large amount of possibilities that it even can include me getting up to grab a drink.

Without looking at the formal definition of "exertion", I would think that it would vary from person to person. Someone who is morbidly obese, who uses a mobility scooter to get around, would find getting up to get a glass of water to be extreamly exhausting.

I power walk about 8km a day. This is an activity I have done for over 10 years. So walking the .8km to the store is nothing to me, where it might be vary hard for someone else.
from the formal definition though, it's pretty much any effort, or application of force. Which so much as moving your finger through the air is an application of force against it.
Fork_Q2 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:57 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
引用自 Malik Blishtar
I found it more funny that after he googled that, he never looked into the definition of exertion, which still leaves such a large amount of possibilities that it even can include me getting up to grab a drink.

Without looking at the formal definition of "exertion", I would think that it would vary from person to person. Someone who is morbidly obese, who uses a mobility scooter to get around, would find getting up to get a glass of water to be extreamly exhausting.

I power walk about 8km a day. This is an activity I have done for over 10 years. So walking the .8km to the store is nothing to me, where it might be vary hard for someone else.

True, which is why it's a bad idea to use it as part of a definition of sports or physical activity.

Anyone who is seriously into chess knows it's not "just" a mental game, just as tennis or basketball isn't just "physical" either, Stephen Hawking would not be able to play chess well. It's exhausting to sit and concentrate at peak capacity for five to six hours at the time, you have to invest an lot into your body if you want to play well for extended periods of time. That takes a ♥♥♥♥-load of discipline. Healthy mind in a healthy body and all that.
最后由 Fork_Q2 编辑于; 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 12:58
Bad Aim 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 Fork_Q
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones

Without looking at the formal definition of "exertion", I would think that it would vary from person to person. Someone who is morbidly obese, who uses a mobility scooter to get around, would find getting up to get a glass of water to be extreamly exhausting.

I power walk about 8km a day. This is an activity I have done for over 10 years. So walking the .8km to the store is nothing to me, where it might be vary hard for someone else.

True, which is why it's a bad idea to use it as part of a definition of sports or physical activity.

Anyone who is seriously into chess knows it's not "just" a mental game, just as tennis or basketball isn't just "physical" either, Stephen Hawking would not be able to play chess well. It's exhausting to sit and concentrate at peak capacity for five to six hours at the time, you have to invest an lot into your body if you want to play well for extended periods of time. That takes a ♥♥♥♥-load of discipline. Healthy mind in a healthy body and all that.

But where do you stop? Chess is a board game. Can we consider Monopoly a sport too? It is also a board game. What about the board game of Risk? That takes a lot of mental consitration. Should Risk be a sport too?

When looking at this topic, I have to take the formal definition of the word along with what is in the spirit of the word.

Are video games a sport? In my mind, no. There is no real physical activity to it. It does require very good hand-eye coordination, that is true. But one does not need to be "mentally fit" to be able to play video games. I have seen people with the mentallity of a three year old play some video games very well. These people are not mentally fit.

My peronsal opinion on this matter is this. If we look at the Olympics, we can get a pretty good definition of what a "sport" really is. Not all sports are played in the Olypics, but all thing in the Olypics are sports. We do not have auto racing in the Olympics. I doubt we ever will see that. It does not require any type of physical activity that might make someone tired. I can play a game for 9 hours strait and not get tired.
Ranko 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 1:14 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
引用自 Fork_Q

True, which is why it's a bad idea to use it as part of a definition of sports or physical activity.

Anyone who is seriously into chess knows it's not "just" a mental game, just as tennis or basketball isn't just "physical" either, Stephen Hawking would not be able to play chess well. It's exhausting to sit and concentrate at peak capacity for five to six hours at the time, you have to invest an lot into your body if you want to play well for extended periods of time. That takes a ♥♥♥♥-load of discipline. Healthy mind in a healthy body and all that.

But where do you stop? Chess is a board game. Can we consider Monopoly a sport too? It is also a board game. What about the board game of Risk? That takes a lot of mental consitration. Should Risk be a sport too?

When looking at this topic, I have to take the formal definition of the word along with what is in the spirit of the word.

Are video games a sport? In my mind, no. There is no real physical activity to it. It does require very good hand-eye coordination, that is true. But one does not need to be "mentally fit" to be able to play video games. I have seen people with the mentallity of a three year old play some video games very well. These people are not mentally fit.

My peronsal opinion on this matter is this. If we look at the Olympics, we can get a pretty good definition of what a "sport" really is. Not all sports are played in the Olypics, but all thing in the Olypics are sports. We do not have auto racing in the Olympics. I doubt we ever will see that. It does not require any type of physical activity that might make someone tired. I can play a game for 9 hours strait and not get tired.
if you take the formal definitions, you end up with video games as a sport, if you don't, that's when it's not, it takes physical activity, and you have to exert force. That's why I brought up the definitions earlier, it's when you ignore the definitions you come up with your answer.
Lumanator 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 1:19 
I think it will as long it has that Kinect gimmick.
最后由 Lumanator 编辑于; 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 1:20
Fork_Q2 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 1:21 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
引用自 Fork_Q

True, which is why it's a bad idea to use it as part of a definition of sports or physical activity.

Anyone who is seriously into chess knows it's not "just" a mental game, just as tennis or basketball isn't just "physical" either, Stephen Hawking would not be able to play chess well. It's exhausting to sit and concentrate at peak capacity for five to six hours at the time, you have to invest an lot into your body if you want to play well for extended periods of time. That takes a ♥♥♥♥-load of discipline. Healthy mind in a healthy body and all that.

But where do you stop? Chess is a board game. Can we consider Monopoly a sport too? It is also a board game. What about the board game of Risk? That takes a lot of mental consitration. Should Risk be a sport too?

When looking at this topic, I have to take the formal definition of the word along with what is in the spirit of the word.

Are video games a sport? In my mind, no. There is no real physical activity to it. It does require very good hand-eye coordination, that is true. But one does not need to be "mentally fit" to be able to play video games. I have seen people with the mentallity of a three year old play some video games very well. These people are not mentally fit.

My peronsal opinion on this matter is this. If we look at the Olympics, we can get a pretty good definition of what a "sport" really is. Not all sports are played in the Olypics, but all thing in the Olypics are sports. We do not have auto racing in the Olympics. I doubt we ever will see that. It does not require any type of physical activity that might make someone tired. I can play a game for 9 hours strait and not get tired.

It seems to me that what is or isn't a sport is fluid, honestly I don't have too much of an issue with either Monopoly or Risk being sports either (though the randomness factor of these games might be a case against).

Playing video games for nine hours straight might not be particularly taxing, but what if you were competing at professional level, with an live audience, large sums of money being involved, your international ranking and reputation at stake? It's a completely different kettle of fish. If you are playing a game like Chess, you want to avoid making lazy or bad moves as much as possible, there is no reload button.
Chopstickdaddy 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 2:41 
引用自 Miss Amanda Jones
definition of sport

an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Therefor video games can not be a sport, just like Nascar can not be a sport.

By that logic, competitive masturbatin can be a sport as well.
Stevenson Family 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 Towelie
By that logic, competitive masturbatin can be a sport as well.

Only by pendantic people without an actual argument.

If you listen to them reading a book should be called a "physical activity" because it involves some minor motor functions. Breaking wind could be a sport.

I can see computer games being one of those things where it could technically be defined as a sport. Hand eye coordination, physical speed, accuracy and reflexes are all important. It can be trained and it plays a major part in how a competitor does.

Does my ability to move peices better than my opponant affect a game of chess? No, it has no bearing at all on the game. It could easily be done by a third party without affecting the match in the slightest. Trying to argue its a physical activity and therefore a sport is ridiculous. Its a game, as is poker.
Ranko 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 Talon
引用自 Towelie
By that logic, competitive masturbatin can be a sport as well.

Only by pendantic people without an actual argument.

If you listen to them reading a book should be called a "physical activity" because it involves some minor motor functions. Breaking wind could be a sport.

I can see computer games being one of those things where it could technically be defined as a sport. Hand eye coordination, physical speed, accuracy and reflexes are all important. It can be trained and it plays a major part in how a competitor does.

Does my ability to move peices better than my opponant affect a game of chess? No, it has no bearing at all on the game. It could easily be done by a third party without affecting the match in the slightest. Trying to argue its a physical activity and therefore a sport is ridiculous. Its a game, as is poker.
you keep using that word, I don't think you know what that means.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=definition+of+physical+activity
Fork_Q2 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 2:56 
引用自 Talon
引用自 Towelie
By that logic, competitive masturbatin can be a sport as well.

Only by pendantic people without an actual argument.

If you listen to them reading a book should be called a "physical activity" because it involves some minor motor functions. Breaking wind could be a sport.

I can see computer games being one of those things where it could technically be defined as a sport. Hand eye coordination, physical speed, accuracy and reflexes are all important. It can be trained and it plays a major part in how a competitor does.

Does my ability to move peices better than my opponant affect a game of chess? No, it has no bearing at all on the game. It could easily be done by a third party without affecting the match in the slightest. Trying to argue its a physical activity and therefore a sport is ridiculous. Its a game, as is poker.

Chess can be physical, sitting down for hours concentrating at peak capacity requires an immense amount of discipline and energy, it's not just mind-power at work. Bobby Fisher worked that out an long time ago, no serious Chess Grandmaster today excludes physical exercise from their training regime.

It's a cliché, but it's true: healthy mind in a healthy body. Stephen Hawkins would not be able to play chess very well, you need constant concentration to play chess, you cannot do it in bursts.
最后由 Fork_Q2 编辑于; 2014 年 8 月 10 日 下午 2:57
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