528Hz and 432Hz Explained?

[Francisè von Spitroast]

Can anyone please clearly explain the thoughts between music and sounds at 528Hz and 432Hz vs 440Hz and such? I can't find any one place that has a clear explanation of it all. Some say 528Hz is for love and that 432Hz is bad in some way and vice versa, but some say both are great and 440Hz is the bad one. I don't get any of it. Can someone please explain?

[Vault Hunter 101]

Im not expert but I read somewhere on internet that more hz makes sound better.. Sadly I can't confirm that

[k3stea]

Billy Shears eredeti hozzászólása:

Can anyone please clearly explain the thoughts between music and sounds at 528Hz and 432Hz vs 440Hz and such? I can't find any one place that has a clear explanation of it all. Some say 528Hz is for love and that 432Hz is bad in some way and vice versa, but some say both are great and 440Hz is the bad one. I don't get any of it. Can someone please explain?

I don't have any knowledge in sound, but I reckon there's no quick answer and you'd have to wiki it for proper understanding of what those terms are.

[Zefar]

In terms of quality, even at like 192 Hz the sound quality will be just fine. Going higher than that doesn't really make things sound all that much better. You might notice a tiny difference but that's about it.

It's probably in the same way of going from 100 FPS to 144 FPS.

I doubt that the people who claim 432 Hz sound worse than 528 Hz are just saying so because they want to justify the amount of money they spent on high tech audio stuff.

Just like a week ago or two I read up on this because someone claimed MP3 quality is ♥♥♥♥ when it's not. Unless you have a really low quality level on it.

[𝕙.𝕓𝕒𝕣𝕜𝕒𝕤]

http://www.mindpowermp3.com/Frequencies-music-and-transformation-How-our-audios-work.html
Read especially the last part about the Solfeggio frequencies
@Zefar total nonsense what you probably meant was bitrate for mp3

[Zefar]

h.barkas eredeti hozzászólása:

http://www.mindpowermp3.com/Frequencies-music-and-transformation-How-our-audios-work.html
Read especially the last part about the Solfeggio frequencies
@Zefar total nonsense what you probably meant was bitrate for mp3

Ok, I mixed them up but it's mainly because the guy started with Hz and I just had this memory that Winamp showed them as Hz. There is a KHz display though on Winamp.

[Francisè von Spitroast]

Thanks for the great answers guys, but I really didn't explain what I was talking about haha. Major oops on my behalf. There's an idea that these certain Hz restore DNA and make you feel peace and all this stuff while 444Hz (what most mainstream music is at) is out of time with nature or something. I thought it was a more well known idea so I didn't explain but I guess not haha, maybe just something for the audiophiles.

[Vazul Macgyver -KBM-LLT-HWDBGR]

Isaac Ophalot eredeti hozzászólása:

Thanks for the great answers guys, but I really didn't explain what I was talking about haha. Major oops on my behalf. There's an idea that these certain Hz restore DNA and make you feel peace and all this stuff while 444Hz (what most mainstream music is at) is out of time with nature or something. I thought it was a more well known idea so I didn't explain but I guess not haha, maybe just something for the audiophiles.

I KNOW this is out of date but I got to looking this up and had to correct a few things as an audiophile.

528Hz is one of the Solfeggio frequencies -that is the reason it is associated with "Healing" properties. There is at least one study done that seems to indicate stress reduction.
https://naturesoundretreat.com/solfeggio-frequency/
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=87146
As to actuality of validation -I can't say.

The A note 440 Is the STANDARD that MOST music is at in the mainstream:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)#:~:text=A440%20(also%20known%20as%20Stuttgart,for%20Standardization%20as%20ISO%2016.

444Hz is the A note of the 528Hz frequency range -528 is the C note.
https://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreq444.html
444 gained popularity in my opinion due to John Lennon using it in his "Imagine" song.
https://olitunes.com/guitar-tuning-a440-hz-a432-hz-a444-hz/

432Hz is claimed to bring peace and clam your heart rate but supposedly actually seems to do the opposite the longer you listen to it. Think Riker in that TNG episode of being driven insane.

[Vazul Macgyver -KBM-LLT-HWDBGR]

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

Highly subjective. Make and listen to music to whichever tune you want. If it sounds good, it sounds good. Simple as!

While true I think there is more to it too.
Like the method at which your listing to music must also apply.
IE: Which sound system your using: 2.0, 2.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1 and 7.0 and 7.1.
However those last two are a virtualization and software never does anything good when it comes to sound so I am going to test the best I can with the two sound system I have. A Logitech Z506 and a Creative Gigaworks T20. It may not be the best and others can check it for me if they want.

Granted I will be converting songs from A440 to A432 and A444 ---> C528 to get the test parameters.

[Vazul Macgyver -KBM-LLT-HWDBGR]

kilésengati eredeti hozzászólása:

Highly subjective. Make and listen to music to whichever tune you want. If it sounds good, it sounds good. Simple as!

As stated I have now done the testing using a Logitech Z506 sound system versus a Creative Gigaworks T20 2.1 system via a USB DAC -to remove motherboard sound interference. I used both systems at half Bass and Treble settings with the DAC set for music instead of speech -only two settings.

I used the songs: Enya -Only Time, Enya -May it be, Kenny Rogers -Coward of the County, Gary Jules -Mad World, Phil Collins -Another Day in Paradise, Bon Jovi -Its My life & The Urge - It's My Turn To Fly
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432 2.1:
If the music is louder than the words at some points it can give both speakers trouble. The music can negate the words in some cases all together. For me its kind of like listening to cassette level audio from the 1980's. Really noticeable in softer songs like Kenny's or Enya's softer style of music.Not a really bad thing as some would claim but I also wouldn't want to listen to it all day that way.

432 2.1 Seems to focus evenly on both channels but at a weaker output from all -especially the sub-woofer. Which I don't even think activates at all and if so barely. 432 is definitely softer than it should be in my opinion. Like going to a The Urge concert but only singing 3/10ths volume for sub-woofer and 7/10ths for voice.

432 Hz 5.1:
The sound is indeed softer than 440 and at times can get... fuzzy and in rare instances there can be static popping while people are singing. Occasionally I did hear hissing -sometimes it was during the singing and no music. Yet sometimes it was vice versa and while there was music and no voice -peculiar. Also if listing to it for a long time -can get an eerie subliminal feel. Thought at one point that in one song I heard a UFO sound. When there was nothing even related to that in the song: Gary Jules -Mad World. If on a 5.1 surround sound system: Hypnotic is the one word I would give this. Not good... Unless you like that sort of thing.

432 Hz 5.1 Seems to focus on the left and right channels a little bit less than the center channel. The center channel gets the majority of the workout and the side channels are of little use. Sub-woofer only whimpers to get noticed.
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440 Hz 2.1:
Majority Standard -what most hear. So standard sound. Both speakers give an equal response and audio is not washed out as 432. Except in certain situations where the Bass gets so powerful that the 2.1 speakers reverberate to the point that words do get lost.
In certain songs like Its my life and Turn to fly the where this happens. Maybe I should adjust the Bass but this has to be with default settings to keep things fair.

440 Hz 2.1 Seems to focus on both channels equally and not watered down. Every thing is usually clear as long as bass isn't extreme in the song. If it is the Bass usually can bork the voice as the sub-woofer kicks in. In my opinion its slightly louder than both 432s -I would say 2 to 4 decibels -though I could be off abit my hearing may be good but not certain how precise.

440 Hz 5.1:
Like its counterpart of 440 2.1 there is no eerie static nor any UFO weirdness. Just normal audio quality equal to 440 2.1 but slightly louder than even it and big time louder than both 432's. Its kind of like CD quality music but again slightly louder.

440 Hz 5.1 Seems to focus on the left and right channel backed up by the center channel with intermittent service from the side channels. The Sub-woofer responds on the low to medium end of output but doesn't get weak & putter out. Again in my opinion its least 1 to 2 decibels over 440 2.1.
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444 Hz 2.1:
Pretty much identical to 440 5.1. Except the BASS is even more powerful here but so is the voice. How can they somehow be complementing one another??? It seems like a quirk but yet so far holds true. For example in either 440 version of Another day in Paradise the "ise" of Paradise gets cut off by the Bass starting and making the other impossible to hear. However in the 444 version both are simultaneous audible . True even of Bon Jovi -Its my life.

444 Hz 2.1 Seems to focus on the left and right channel equally and the Sub-woofer responds on the low end of output but doesn't get too strong. Again in my opinion its 1 to 2 decibels over 440 2.1 so equal to 440 5.1 but still clearer than either 440 for voice and Bass.

444 Hz 5.1:
This frequency seems to take real advantage of the 5.1 system. While on the 2.1 system the audio was loud and powerful and clear... Here IT IS MORE SO. -I would say 5 to 10 decibels over 432. Not disproportionately so though. The voices and Bass again complement one another and do not cancel each other out. Also there is no static nor popping in the singing of voices as with 432.

Seems to focuses on the left and right channel as well as the center channel in unison with weaker but no where near as inconsistent assistance from the side channels compared to the other two frequencies. The sub-woofer somehow is given a substantial boost. After more testing its like putting it to 100% on 440 but at HALF settings.
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This is all at 48000khz audio sampling rate and 192 audio bit rate.


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The conclusion I have gained from this is...
If your 2.0/2.1 sound system is subpar $30 then 432 is fine -you will have about the same quality as 440.

If your 2.0/2.1 sound system is $50+ then 440 is the only thing you should be using.

If your using a 5.1 surround sound system then 440 or 444 is fine -though personally I would prefer 444 for the POWER alone.

Again this is just from my personal experience.