Is diablo 3 a good game?

[DeLucario]

Hey, im a mmorpg newbie and never acctualy played an mmorpg like Diablo 3. Im not sure if Diablo is the game for a person like me... I heard the game is rellatively grindy, what i really like. I'm just looking for a fun game what keeps you motivated and rewarded. I whould really like it if anyone who played the game tell me a littlebit about his expirience...

[Gus the Crocodile]

GD and POE are the better games for me, but I enjoyed my time with D3, especially since the expansion.

Sure, it's got things about it I don't like. A lack of what you might call 'commitment' in character building is a big one for me. An attribute (str/dex/int etc) system not brave enough to disappear entirely; hanging around in such an oversimplified form as to be almost vestigial, and yet so omnipresent, taking up space on almost every item that could have been used for something interesting. A story that's taken the normal silly/fun angels and demons fluff and tried way too hard to insert characters and series references and twists which just end up making me want to skip every part of it. Weapons where the type is so irrelevant they may as well almost all just be called "weapon". Way too many bosses in artificial locked circular arenas with very action-game-like intro cutscenes. Etc etc.

But it also has the Blizzard level of polish that most other games can never hope to reach, which is especially noticeable in the combat. It has a great variety of skills (zombie bears <3), and it made the masterful step - which I hope other games get over their slavish D2 obessions and replicate eventually - of eliminating the archaic "play through the entire game three times over" nonsense, replacing it with a system that lets the player choose which parts of the game they want to play and how tough a challenge they're after.

I don't really agree with rojimboo that it's a multiplayer game at its core (I have never felt like I've been missing out on anything playing SP, as sometimes happens with MP-focused games), but I will say that if you're playing with people who aren't super into the finicky stat-optimisation aspect of the genre (or just aren't big gamers at all), D3 is by far your best bet. My housemate bought the PS4 version a while back when people were over for the weekend and it went down very well.

[rojimboo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Gus the Crocodile:

GD and POE are the better games for me, but I enjoyed my time with D3, especially since the expansion.

Sure, it's got things about it I don't like. A lack of what you might call 'commitment' in character building is a big one for me. An attribute (str/dex/int etc) system not brave enough to disappear entirely; hanging around in such an oversimplified form as to be almost vestigial, and yet so omnipresent, taking up space on almost every item that could have been used for something interesting. A story that's taken the normal silly/fun angels and demons fluff and tried way too hard to insert characters and series references and twists which just end up making me want to skip every part of it. Weapons where the type is so irrelevant they may as well almost all just be called "weapon". Way too many bosses in artificial locked circular arenas with very action-game-like intro cutscenes. Etc etc.

But it also has the Blizzard level of polish that most other games can never hope to reach, which is especially noticeable in the combat. It has a great variety of skills (zombie bears <3), and it made the masterful step - which I hope other games get over their slavish D2 obessions and replicate eventually - of eliminating the archaic "play through the entire game three times over" nonsense, replacing it with a system that lets the player choose which parts of the game they want to play and how tough a challenge they're after.

I don't really agree with rojimboo that it's a multiplayer game at its core (I have never felt like I've been missing out on anything playing SP, as sometimes happens with MP-focused games), but I will say that if you're playing with people who aren't super into the finicky stat-optimisation aspect of the genre (or just aren't big gamers at all), D3 is by far your best bet. My housemate bought the PS4 version a while back when people were over for the weekend and it went down very well.

Oh I agree you can play D3 solo if you want to. But there is increased loot and magic find, nevermind the XP, teaming up.

Also, my point was that of longetivity of multiplayer games compared to singleplayer games. Eventually you just want friends to play with, and with voice chat (still not implemented so need 3rd party apps) it's a lot more fun than a singleplayer game would hope to be.

Console version - same-screen co-op is the biggest attraction sure. But with no Seasons, and local saves introducing cheating galore, the PC version is still superior.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Początkowo opublikowane przez rojimboo:

Eventually you just want friends to play with

Many people, absolutely. But for me, playing these games with other people almost always makes them less fun rather than more, primarily due to the game's pace no longer being in my control. I want to be able to stop and go back to town or stand around fiddling with my inventory without feeling like a burden on others, to slow down and explore some side path without feeling left behind, to stop playing when I like and start playing when I like, to be able to use a silly fun hybrid build without it meaning someone else doing some hyperoptimised flavour of the month build gets all the kills, etc etc. Nothing against those who play ARPGs in multiplayer, it's just not for me, and never really has been.

And heh, well, local saves only introduce cheating if you play with people who cheat. :) So that basically just wouldn't happen in D3, but if I did it'd only be because it didn't bother me. Which is not to argue overall - the PC version is the better one for me too. Shame they didn't just add local play to it, though; we wouldn't have had need of the PS4 version if that had happened.

[rojimboo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Gus the Crocodile:

And heh, well, local saves only introduce cheating if you play with people who cheat. :) So that basically just wouldn't happen in D3, but if I did it'd only be because it didn't bother me. Which is not to argue overall - the PC version is the better one for me too. Shame they didn't just add local play to it, though; we wouldn't have had need of the PS4 version if that had happened.

Well, the cheating is mainly to do with multiplayer games, in public, on the consoles. You join a game and suddenly you are P2000 and are like wtf.

[paradroid]

Początkowo opublikowane przez DeLucario:

Is diablo 3 a good game?

Lol, no.

Torchlight II, Grim Dawn, and Path of Exile all do Diablo better than Diablo III did.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I like Diablo III better then PoE, Torchlight II, Grim Dawn and Titan Quest, most of those I didnt even have enough will to finish because they got boring half-way through.
Blizz does it best, altough I really wish they would release the remastered HD version of Diablo II, this was by far my favorite.

[76561198205901381]

As with any new (modern) games, it sucks. You should play Diablo II instead.

[Del_Duio]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Fostin4:

Diablo 3 is not a MMO and I feel Torchlight 2 is better than Diablo 3.

Yeah I think so too. I am an avid Diablo 2 player for over ten years and had big hopes for D3 but it wasn't nearly as good IMO. Aside from the atmosphere being crapped on they changed many of the gameplay rules and equipment stats and etc. They took characters who were kind of scary in even the first diablo (The Butcher) and neutered him to a charicacture of his former self, spewing such garbage lines like "Eat your vegetables!" After his classic introduction of "Ah! Fresh meat!"

Torchlight 2 was just on sale not long ago for $4.99. Put it on your wishlist and hope for a similar sale if you want to give a good game a shot for little risk later. It's still cartoony looking but they do so much else right it's easy to overlook. Plus it's made by many of the same guys from Blizzard North who made the good Diablo games so there's that.

[Del_Duio]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pork Eating Crusader:

As with any new (modern) games, it sucks. You should play Diablo II instead.

It really does hold up still, after 16 years.

[Del_Duio]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Zefar:

I never saw the issue with real money auction house. You didn't need to use it. IF someone else used it, it didn't ruin your gameplay.
If you played a lot you could sell weapons for real money in order to buy stuff from Blizzard store.

It also cut down on the grind in the start. You could go to the auction house to look for gears to have fun with.
You could sell stuff you didn't need too.

I think the main problem with the RMAH were the ridiculous odds of getting legendary drops in the first place. It almost forced you to buy from there since you were likely not going to get a good legendary yourself. Now I don't mean "Zod rare", but rare enough to be a big PITA when all you want to do is plunk back and have some mindless fun.

So in a roundabout way Blizzard did ruin your gameplay by purposely making all the best items so rare most people would never see them unless they purchased something off the RMAH, which not only encouraged bots but Blizz got a cut of every sale. See what I mean? I'm so glad they got rid of it.

[MEGA MAN]

bLIZZARD sux! fact!

[lucent]

Walmart is selling it for $15 now.

[Annihilator]

I have played diablo 1 and 2 but the 3 not have it atm.I have a plan, maybe, to take two copies, one for my brother, in future because now im busy for other things.Plus waiting the discounts :)


But honestly i have one question.Needed a platform for buyng diablo 3 or is alone?For example dota 2 have steam platform and diablo 3?What have?Because i not know this info... thx.

[rojimboo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Annihilator:

I have played diablo 1 and 2 but the 3 not have it atm.I have a plan, maybe, to take two copies, one for my brother, in future because now im busy for other things.Plus waiting the discounts :)


But honestly i have one question.Needed a platform for buyng diablo 3 or is alone?For example dota 2 have steam platform and diablo 3?What have?Because i not know this info... thx.

Battle.net

It's not so bad. You just launch the game from it, and it pre-authenticates you if you have the desktop app so you login automatically ingame.

[Annihilator]

Ah thx for the info.I have windows 8.1 and i hoping working with it :) but not sure if i upgrade on win 10 in future(if work with games).

Thx again.