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docter helth 23/out./2022 às 9:43
Why are Christians treated like nutjobs?
As a Christian, I would really like to know.
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No. It became an entire different topic here.

don't let people here goad you into arguments, ridicule you, mock you, and give you idiotic answers about a serious topic.

again. if you want a serious conversation about this topic go find a good theology forum or group and have a talk or brainstorm with them and you wont be considered a 'joke' to them.

let this topic die here.

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anyways i'm out. Good luck.
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Out Of Bubblegum 23/out./2022 às 12:40 
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Maybe they would not if they not push for things like adding creationism or intelligent design to the school's curriculum lol.
whats the difference between that and teaching evolution?
they are both theroies <3
Nope. That is a lie. You are referring to Darwin's theory which is only a theory of how evolution works. We also only have theories about how gravity works. Both gravity and evolution are facts.
primeinsurrection 23/out./2022 às 12:40 
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Wait, that doesn't make any sense (although nothing about religion ever does), the Jewish Sabbath is observed throughout the year on the seventh day of the week, which is a Saturday, not a Sunday.

Besides a real god would prefer 8 as its associated with infinity, and for other reasons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEB1R_Xt4Mo
The Jewish and Gregorian calenders are different. The concept of a "weekend" is also modern and artificial, Sunday is considered the first day of the week (but not the "work week"). Hence why the Sabbath is Saturday. Not sure why Christianity came to have the Sabbath on a different day.

Because in the 1920s the pope officially changed it to Sunday. When they asked him why he said because he is God so he can do whatever he wants.
Error: Not Found 23/out./2022 às 12:40 
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whats the difference between that and teaching evolution?
they are both theroies <3
Nope. That is a lie. You are referring to Darwin's theory which is only a theory of how evolution works. We also only have theories about how gravity works. Both gravity and evolution are facts.
how is evolution a fact?
Out Of Bubblegum 23/out./2022 às 12:40 
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Because they do everything opposite of what they claim to believe in?

Ever see the picture of the Earth taken from the moon? Imagine that the earth is the entire universe and God is on the moon watching his creation. Our Galaxy would be one grain of sand. Our solar system would be one atom. We are all on one electron in that atom. But "the creator" cares about us more than anything else. Humanity has such a huge ego.
Picture from the moon?
https://www.bing.com/search?q=picture+of+earth+from+moon&qs=AS&pq=picture+of+earth+&sk=LS1&sc=10-17&cvid=FD09BF15894445719B98A5EB2125C422&FORM=QBLH&sp=2
primeinsurrection 23/out./2022 às 12:41 
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whats the difference between that and teaching evolution?
they are both theroies <3
Nope. That is a lie. You are referring to Darwin's theory which is only a theory of how evolution works. We also only have theories about how gravity works. Both gravity and evolution are facts.

You do realize that science doesnt say evolution is the only thing that created us right? That was taught in schools back when you were in school but has been disproven many times over since then.
Out Of Bubblegum 23/out./2022 às 12:43 
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Nope. That is a lie. You are referring to Darwin's theory which is only a theory of how evolution works. We also only have theories about how gravity works. Both gravity and evolution are facts.
You do realize that science doesnt say evolution is the only thing that created us right? That was taught in schools back when you were in school but has been disproven many times over since then.
No. That is a lie. Even the biggest Christian group, the Catholics, admit evolution is a fact.
Error: Not Found 23/out./2022 às 12:45 
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You do realize that science doesnt say evolution is the only thing that created us right? That was taught in schools back when you were in school but has been disproven many times over since then.
No. That is a lie. Even the biggest Christian group, the Catholics, admit evolution is a fact.
i hate to be the one to say it but catholics in all reality arent really christians per se because they dont even believe the bible and twist many things in the bible
MistyMountainHop 23/out./2022 às 12:45 
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Scientologists are nutjobs
Yeah I know and there's no difference between their religion and any other.

I dunno about that. I didn't have to funnel a huge amount of money into my church. I just showed up. And when I decided not to show up anymore, nobody threatened to smear my reputation or financially ruin me for it.
Acetyl 23/out./2022 às 12:46 
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whats the difference between that and teaching evolution?
they are both theroies <3
Nope. That is a lie. You are referring to Darwin's theory which is only a theory of how evolution works. We also only have theories about how gravity works. Both gravity and evolution are facts.
Evolution and creation are not mutually exclusive nor incompatible. Abiogenesis is not the only pathway either, hence ideas like being seeded by meteorites. I also have issues with the notion of the "blind watchmaker" as an irrational and illogical mechanism. Sure, with the right influences and starting state in something like Conway's game of life, you can end up with fairly complex structures, but there is the matter of adaptation and breaking out of "sinks" of stable ground states. There is no such "random mutuation" to begin with when you look at the organization and coiling behavior of DNA, some segments will be more vulnerable. Also, a theoretical organism which gained the ability to evolve itself, not unlike horizontal gene transfer in bacteria, perhaps by propagating information fromt he nervous system to the germ line, would be at a massive advantage. This is, in effect, due to environmental metrics perhaps, a "plan". Plain Darwinian natural selection + random mutation appears oversimplistic.
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primeinsurrection 23/out./2022 às 12:46 
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You do realize that science doesnt say evolution is the only thing that created us right? That was taught in schools back when you were in school but has been disproven many times over since then.
No. That is a lie. Even the biggest Christian group, the Catholics, admit evolution is a fact.

Evolution is a thing that happens. That is known. But evolution alone isnt how we came to be what we are now. This first theory that official disproved it was called intelligent design theory. Many others have too. We do evolve slightly but we didnt evolve from a bacteria in a swamp and all the different animals didnt evolve from each other starting from an ameba. That was taught in schools in the old days. But its all been disproven since then. They dont even teach that anymore.
Error: Not Found 23/out./2022 às 12:48 
i wouldnt know because i never went into a public school
docter helth 23/out./2022 às 12:48 
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No. That is a lie. Even the biggest Christian group, the Catholics, admit evolution is a fact.

Evolution is a thing that happens. That is known. But evolution alone isnt how we came to be what we are now. This first theory that official disproved it was called intelligent design theory. Many others have too. We do evolve slightly but we didnt evolve from a bacteria in a swamp and all the different animals didnt evolve from each other starting from an ameba. That was taught in schools in the old days. But its all been disproven since then. They dont even teach that anymore.
Really? I didn't know that.
Out Of Bubblegum 23/out./2022 às 12:50 
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This first theory that official disproved it was called intelligent design theory.
Intelligent design is just a way to force a God into the picture. It is proven nonsense. And they do still teach real science in schools.
A&A 23/out./2022 às 12:52 
It can be said that there are people from this circle who pretend to be Christians but contradict themselves by committing sins.

Even in a historical perspective, we can see that a handful of people used Christianity only for control.

But there is a small difference between religious and believers that is not understood by most people.
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AdahnGorion 23/out./2022 às 12:53 
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As a Christian, I would really like to know.

I don´t think most people think that, I think most people just shake their head.
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