I think I'm going to stop watching Marvel

[🔥Astral Rage🔥]

So I watched Dr Strange Multiverse of Madness but wasn't expecting to find wokeness
boy I was wrong, complete cliche
I am very sure that I won't ever watch further MCU movies

[Daxank]

Rumpelcrutchskin původně napsal:

Stopped after Infinity Wars, new stuff is just waste of time.

This

[Grendalcat]

What was it, Iron Man 3, where the pieces of his armor flew across the Atlantic in about ten seconds on their own?

That was when I stopped watching Marvel.

[Tony Twist's Thunderous Right]

Erin původně napsal:

your religion is not an excuse to discriminate and exclude.

As much as you might like to, you don't get to dictate the beliefs of others.

[Medified]

Yeah all the material after the "Thanos"-related stuff is either bland and incoherent shows, or just random pop culture stereotypes thrown into Marvel movies.

Outside of Marvel, Disney is pushing to the bitter edge of canonity in Star Wars with Obi-Wan. While they weren't perfect critically, I seriously miss Lucas' direction in the earlier films, they were a lot better than this weird hype-train they try to make with the finales.

[Mad Scientist]

Everything after Endgame seems to just suck.

"Top Gun: Maverick" is a great example of writing and a movie overall.
"The Old Man" is also an example of great writing.

Older Franchises/series/titles etc are essentially being ruined by people with zero care for the material, then you get Tom Cruise wanting to make the fans happy and go out of his way to do so, and in doing so he made a $1 Billion+ movie. When other movies are being decimated by "Minions", Maverick, and other movies, you know they weren't very well made.

Also a strong example of how hollywood should stop using the same people over & over again; they get too comfortable and complacent compared to "if I ruin this thing I'll be forever unable to make a living doing this". Need more no-name good actors rather than people that like to attack fans of existing properties or attack fans in general. They seem to forget who makes something profitable or not; the fans.

[krag hag]

Tony Twist's Thunderous Right původně napsal:

As much as you might like to, you don't get to dictate the beliefs of others.

I'm not dictating anyone's beliefs, I'm saying that religion doesn't justify bigotry

[Yavin Shikanoko]

Erin původně napsal:

Tony Twist's Thunderous Right původně napsal:

As much as you might like to, you don't get to dictate the beliefs of others.

I'm not dictating anyone's beliefs, I'm saying that religion doesn't justify bigotry

It's dead end when you talk with people like that

[Doomerang]

Politics aside I’m just so sick of the western super hero thing. I wish the fad would die already

[Green]

used to be a big fan of MCU, especially during phase 3 that starts from Captain America Civil War to Avengers Endgame.

phase 4 has been giving me mixed feelings, since most of the movies and tv shows are mid (Eternals, Falcon and Winter soldier, Hawkeye, Thor : Love and Thunder, etc.). Black Widow is probably my least favorite superhero movie of all time.

However, there are some movies and tv shows that are actually really good.

Shang Chi and The Legend of The Ten Rings is wonderful and probably the best movie from MCU's phase 4 (if im not being biased).

Tom Hiddleston's Loki is one of my favorite MCU characters of all time, he has the best character development in the entire MCU.

Moon Knight is one of my favorite marvel character from the comics. And the Moon Knight tv show is really enjoyable, I really like how they made us think that Steven Grant is the main personality. it's different, in a good way.

Spiderman No Way Home has it's flaws, such as poor CGI on some scenes and covered in plot holes. But it's really really really nice to see both Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield playing Spiderman again. All of the Spiderman actors had a really good chemistry with each other. I also started to appreciate Tom Holland's Spiderman a little bit more.

Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness was actually quite decent, mostly because how Sam Raimi directed the movie. It wasn't perfect but I still really like it.


However, I think the problem with MCU is actually the feminism agenda that they tried to shove down our throat, there is a lot of unimportant female characters (that blondie in black widow, scarlet scarab, she hulk, ms marvel, etc) at the moment. And also the downgrade in writing.

I wish marvel would make more movies like Civil War, but they're just going for quantity at this point.

[Tito Shivan]

Mr. Gentlebot původně napsal:

Everything after Endgame seems to just suck.

My problem with the MCU is it all feels like homework. It was kind of doable when it was just the movies which cross referenced each others. Then came Agents of Shield and you had to follow the movies AND the tv show (Which honestly, I didn't), but now we have tv showS.

It's all a scheme to drive FOMO and consumption of every brand related product and it bores me.

I just got myself up to date with the movies. I'm binge watching Moon Knight (It kind of grew on me, because after the first two episodes I was so close to drop it) and took me ages to watch Hawkeye.

I stopped watching anything Arrowverse for the very same reason years ago. I have limited free time. There's a reduced ammount of media I can consume in that timeframe.

[nightnight]

It’s not just marvel. DC too. All Hollywood. You want freedom then choose indie films, theyre better anyway.

[Mad Scientist]

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

My problem with the MCU is it all feels like homework. It was kind of doable when it was just the movies which cross referenced each others. Then came Agents of Shield and you had to follow the movies AND the tv show (Which honestly, I didn't), but now we have tv shows.

I can definitely agree with this. One issue I had is the whole 'creative twist' on it, which often made characters really cheap compared to the usual versions, and a little bit of too much drama compared to their nature. Punisher series seemed to have a fair mixture of everything and attaching it to Daredevil was a bold and well made combination. They do feel these days as you mentioned, which makes it a tad annoying compared to being able to keep up without the need for watching every series property.

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

It's all a scheme to drive FOMO and consumption of every brand related product and it bores me.

Definitely seems to be the scenario. Their latest garbagefest of "give a character way more powers than they're supposed to have" was also a laughably bad move for an already awful and irritating character, even in animated versions was just a really dumb addition.

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

I stopped watching anything Arrowverse for the very same reason years ago. I have limited free time. There's a reduced amount of media I can consume in that timeframe.

You're not really missing much, the arrowverse isn't that great, it was fairly decent in the beginning. The animated series & movies of DC properties are often infinitely better than the TV (and even some movies) based things.

[Alaskan Catfish Hike]

Doomerang původně napsal:

Politics aside I’m just so sick of the western super hero thing. I wish the fad would die already

I watched some clips over the years on YouTube. How people sit through 50+ hours (as of 2020) is beyond me.

[Sharkster_00]

I thought it was good nice it was directed by Sam rami and I thought it was awesome he made some references to the evil dead series he created in a marvel movie

[Vandal_Ru]

Tony Twist's Thunderous Right původně napsal:

Marvel movies have sucked since forever.

Except the first Iron Man movie.