Taylor Swift is a climate action hypocrite ? ?

[Ganger]

Articles have been released this week over taylor swift topping the CO2 emissions list despite her campaigning for climate change over the years. It says she has taken 170 flights and produce over 8,000 tons of CO2 over the past year.

If she wasn't such a hypocrite over climate change this wouldn't even be issue for most people including myself. While at the same time demanding the rest of us cut down on our CO2, she is one of the worlds worst polluters

I guess it's hard too change your lifestyle and way of life once you become rich and famous.

[Pocahawtness]

Electric Cupcake の投稿を引用：

There really aren't any climate-friendly methods for air travel.

Nope. The simple fact is that we have to get used to travelling less or, more likely, we all die.

[Yamantaka]

It's the same issue as with many politicians and politics in general. They sweet talk one thing and in practice don't do what they preach. I'd rather look at their actions as a guideline for what they represent. It's so ridiculously easy to talk what's right, even if the message would be true, but when they live and make decisions by different standards.

With climate change. Gold diggers are there for sure. Same as people who wish to give some good shine for their status for "doing good" and being on "right side".

Decades keep rolling and alarms are ringing loud but so little is done in reality. Hypocrisy? Absolutely, yes.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

turn this around, who are the good celebrities who actually do the right thing?

[Holografix]

Ganger の投稿を引用：

Holografix の投稿を引用：

well, maybe it's your viewpoints? they're really bad Ganger.

try to think like the middle classes, maybe? they're not all bad.

I don't dwell on it to be honest. Infact I lived in a middle class area for while, living in small english village surrounded with well to do people. To be honest, the people were really nice, friendly, well spoken and seemed very honest people. The place was clean and tidy, people used to say good morning to you when you walked past.

yah, sometimes you find pockets of good people in every walk of life.

[Uncle Sam]

Holografix の投稿を引用：

Green gunner の投稿を引用：

I just really depise the oligarch class, their hypocrisy and snobbish doublespeak ("rules for thee not for me" kind of deal being an example), however i'm doing my part regarding the ongoing climate crisis.

i too do my part for the ongoing climate crisis. and although i am not too enraged by oligarch hypocrisy, i am aware of the class struggle. :dsfist:

Fair enough

[Naru, Chief Defendestrator]

Brand name climate activists who believe in what they preach are a myth. This isn't my opinion, just my personal truth.

[{ИЯm} Keith]

Weird how a a young super star musician with both country and pop success, and even a rap with Tpain, is somehow leaving a larger carbon footprint then a random Joe -Blow on steam... Facepalm.

Like it's strange how a G550 burns 358 Gallons of Jet-A per hour, and your Prius doesn't....Weird that.

Unless you want them to only connect to people via the internet, streaming, videos, etc, like David Suzuki you're going to see a large carbon footprint. That's just reality. Is it hypocritical, maybe a little, it's very "do as I say" and not "do as I do" but that's actually exceptionally common with leaders, influencers, etc.

Also it's not a you vs me type thing, we've gone from 6.5 to 9 billion people, we each need things, we all pollute, even if with didn't we all respirate. (breathing out CO2) Even the production of oil itself leaves a deep inpact to the environment. (burned or not) There's a lot of low hanging fruit, like not burning coal for power, and recycling. But it's not a competition, it's a project for everyone to work on, and collectively be mindful of. (we probably all need to do more) But for a start, we should do what we can. At present She can use her platform to speak out, maybe she can stop touring, or maybe she can't because she'd loose the lime light.

[ChaffyExpert]

Hot take incoming:

How about first we start with, you know, not dumping our trash just anywhere on the ground. Like, isn't it going waaay out of your way, to dump plastic straws in a stream or the Ocean instead of in a trash can (at the very least)

da ♥♥♥♥ is wrong with people, inconveniencing themselves to get trash into the ocean. like ???? what purpose does that serve? We can't even get people to do the most basic of things, despite literally being easier to do than the alternative.

Now we have to deal with paper straws that ironically pump more C02 in the air when they are made, and... you know... don't work.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

she must have a tour bus, why the jet all the time

[permanent name]

I wonder how a lifetime of jet trips compares to one year of gold mining.

Let’s see, 1 ton co2 per ounce. Roughly a million ounces per year per mine. Hmm. Well, the entire metal and mining industry is only responsible for 8% of the global carbon footprint.

Jet travel is 2.1%, and is only responsible for 12% of travel emissions. Cars are responsible for 72%, meaning they are responsible for 12.6% of emissions overall.

So planned obsolescence and inefficient car design is a bigger issue than private jets, but nobody wants to talk about that.

They want to talk about how they don’t have private jets.

[ChaffyExpert]

permanent name の投稿を引用：

I wonder how a lifetime of jet trips compares to one year of gold mining.

Let’s see, 1 ton co2 per ounce. Roughly a million ounces per year per mine. Hmm. Well, the entire metal and mining industry is only responsible for 8% of the global carbon footprint.

Jet travel is 2.1%, and is only responsible for 12% of travel emissions. Cars are responsible for 72%, meaning they are responsible for 12.6% of emissions overall.

So planned obsolescence and inefficient car design is a bigger issue than private jets, but nobody wants to talk about that.

They want to talk about how they don’t have private jets.

Thing is, billions of people have cars, not planes.How many private jets are there actually? I wanna know.

[permanent name]

There are as many private jets as the economy is structured to allow, and jets in total represent 2.1%.

If you banned jet travel entirely it wouldn’t have anywhere near the effect of simply reducing car travel by 20%.

[ChaffyExpert]

permanent name の投稿を引用：

There are as many private jets as the economy is structured to allow, and jets in total represent 2.1%.

If you banned jet travel entirely it wouldn’t have anywhere near the effect of simply reducing car travel by 20%.

Let's be real though, there's nothing you could do, not without getting India and China, and most third world countries on board. Which they (China anyways) won't. We could totally ban cars, and get rid of all factories, and it wouldn't matter.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

how muh would u save going back to propellor planes

[permanent name]

HypersleepyNaputunia の投稿を引用：

how muh would u save going back to propellor planes

Nothing; they’re inefficient and wasteful.

Jets barely use any fuel once they get to altitude.

ChaffyExpert の投稿を引用：

permanent name の投稿を引用：

There are as many private jets as the economy is structured to allow, and jets in total represent 2.1%.

If you banned jet travel entirely it wouldn’t have anywhere near the effect of simply reducing car travel by 20%.

Let's be real though, there's nothing you could do, not without getting India and China, and most third world countries on board. Which they (China anyways) won't. We could totally ban cars, and get rid of all factories, and it wouldn't matter.

If people supplied them with efficient technologies rather than forcing them to industrialize on their own they’d have a comparable footprint.

Currently they have a lower footprint than when the US, England, or any European countries were at a similar level of development. They also industrialized more rapidly, so their footprint hasn’t been around as long.