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Natural Love 9 ago. 2022 às 0:31
What’s the point of consoles?
What’s the point of consoles these days? People get milked to play online. Back in the day consoles where just here to have fun. Easy plug and play and what is now? Xbox with f* up drm and monthly fee to play online and sony with 80 bucks games and a monthly sub to play online….ridiculous.
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So people can have fancy looking door stops.
Natural Love 9 ago. 2022 às 0:38 
Every game is available on pc
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 9 ago. 2022 às 0:41 
Originalmente postado por Matt:
Originalmente postado por Protagonist:
Every game is available on pc
That's actually not true.
every game that counts
Nx Machina 9 ago. 2022 às 0:49 
Originalmente postado por Protagonist:
What’s the point of consoles these days? People get milked to play online. Back in the day consoles where just here to have fun. Easy plug and play and what is now? Xbox with f* up drm and monthly fee to play online and sony with 80 bucks games and a monthly sub to play online….ridiculous.

Because not everyone wants to use mouse and keyboard, nor sit in front of a PC, they want plug and play and not the hassle of troubleshooting PC brings.

Have your seen the prices of PC games recently, they keep rising.

Originalmente postado por Protagonist:
Every game is available on pc

Bloodborne, Demon's Souls are not and that is just two examples.
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 9 ago. 2022 às 0:56 
consoles are a by gone era sadly.

Now PC and mobile games have basically overtaken them. Now it's just a bunch of hipsters and nostalgia friends that want them.


Mobile and portable game consoles have enough running capacity to run standard flash styled games or ROMs. Basically your phone is a mini computer at this point without RAM for all the space for stuff default.

PC is basically the stuff used to make games. Modding and other games out there not on consoles b/c you need a powerful enough computing technology plus RAM data space.



Consoles are a weird middleman. It's like too overkill for mobile ports and junk (why the Ouya failed above all else lmao) and still too weak to undershot games on the lvl of PC. With cross platforming and getting controller compatibility consoles have lost less positives as PC continues to innovate.


Also the price range and the requirements:
-new consoles cap at around 40 fps
-memory is low
-requires physical game disks
-bulkier than handhelds / mobile but also as much as PCs
-features on steam or other platforms like online store or mods / forums are non-existant
-requires a pass to use the multiplayer servers (idk if it's still true but when ye old xbox 360 days you needed one)

Basically consoles are soon to become obsolete like arcades were during the pandemic and are nowadays.

People want convenience to be green and all that garbage labels. Not just people but the industries too. Mostly for less $$$$ to pay for stuff and get more $$$$ capital but overall no one wants to invest heavily into consoles anymore. The only thing i'll actually vouch for is VR b/c it does require hardware headsets.
But Valve has been sinking tons of $$$$ and labor recently for years to make VR in PC explode. Once that picks up there would be literally nothing for consoles.

Wii was god tier all in one computer shopping browsing game and VR

Nowadays though if we can just fine tune it then it'll become PC with VR. It's the ultimate final evolution of gaming. At this point may as well just have consoles become mini PCs or just become PCs with the game logo.

Pure consoles are a bygone era. They need to heavily invest into something like VR or streaming / movies online (keyword ONLINE) in order to get a footing on the portable/handhelds or PCs




Even console exclusive games are no longer exclusives and come to PC or mobile at some point. People would rather wait it out. Or devs / publishers cut out the middle man and go to all other outlets instead of exclusively consoles. Plus most exclusives games and most games nowadays suck ass. So even less to non-existent reason to get a console JUST FOR A GAME!!!!


edit: 60 fps it was a typo
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Mr Jt (Gog is king) 9 ago. 2022 às 1:00 
Originalmente postado por Nx Machina:
Originalmente postado por Protagonist:
What’s the point of consoles these days? People get milked to play online. Back in the day consoles where just here to have fun. Easy plug and play and what is now? Xbox with f* up drm and monthly fee to play online and sony with 80 bucks games and a monthly sub to play online….ridiculous.

Because not everyone wants to use mouse and keyboard, nor sit in front of a PC, they want plug and play and not the hassle of troubleshooting PC brings.

Have your seen the prices of PC games recently, they keep rising.

Originalmente postado por Protagonist:
Every game is available on pc

Bloodborne, Demon's Souls are not and that is just two examples.
Depends which version of demon souls. The remake not at least for now and bloodborne it’s just a matter of time. Basically you can play every game on pc
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 9 ago. 2022 às 1:03 
Originalmente postado por Matt:
Capped around 40 fps? Actually, many of the games run at 60 plus fps.

My only point is that, for some people it will make sense, for others it won't.

I mean this is a PC forum, so I'll expect that most people are going to like PC.

Which is, in many ways the ultimate game system. The thing is it just depends on you. You can't force datum on someone to prove that something works better for them, when maybe it doesn't. One can easily list a whole bunch of advantages, that one platform has. It doesn't change reality that much for the other side. Every generation, it seems millions go out and buy consoles.
1 typo my bad

2 it's not just b/c ITS PC but we have a forum. Don't really have that with consoles. Unless you got friends banter and ranting or discussing games isn't as easy sadly.
Nx Machina 9 ago. 2022 às 1:07 
Originalmente postado por Mr Jt (Gog is king):
Depends which version of demon souls. The remake not at least for now and bloodborne it’s just a matter of time. Basically you can play every game on pc

Neither version of Demon's Souls are "actually" on PC. Can you buy either on PC.? No.

People have been saying that for a long time about Bloodborne and it released in 2015.

Note: Both Demon's Souls (original) and Bloodborne were co-developed with Sony and Sony owns the ip for both.
Última alteração por Nx Machina; 9 ago. 2022 às 1:08
Crazy Tiger 9 ago. 2022 às 1:07 
Originalmente postado por Protagonist:
What’s the point of consoles these days?
The same they always had, to play games.

Originalmente postado por Matt:
My only point is that, for some people it will make sense, for others it won't.
Yup, it's personal preference.
Nx Machina 9 ago. 2022 às 1:14 
Originalmente postado por Mr Jt (Gog is king):
You can play it on pc at least the first one. You can also use the purchased physical version of it

It is actually SOLD on PC?
Última alteração por Nx Machina; 9 ago. 2022 às 1:18
Mr Jt (Gog is king) 9 ago. 2022 às 1:16 
Originalmente postado por Nx Machina:
Originalmente postado por Mr Jt (Gog is king):
You can play it on pc at least the first one. You can also use the purchased physical version of it

It is actually SOLD on PC?
You can play it on pc. Get a physical version and voila it’s done
Nx Machina 9 ago. 2022 às 1:20 
Originalmente postado por Mr Jt (Gog is king):
You can play it on pc. Get a physical version and voila it’s done

Is it SOLD on PC making it an OFFICIAL PC port/game. The answer is no.
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 9 ago. 2022 às 1:21 
Originalmente postado por Matt:
Originalmente postado por Fumo Gaming:
1 typo my bad

2 it's not just b/c ITS PC but we have a forum. Don't really have that with consoles. Unless you got friends banter and ranting or discussing games isn't as easy sadly.
No, you do.

It’s just on PC. Not every console player wants to just be in front of their Tv all day.

Xbox has had a forum since at least the Early 2000s. Do I care if it’s on PC? Does it really make a difference? Maybe, again depends.
which goes a full 180 that consoles are just low powered pcs

the cost going through the roof nowadays may as well invest a bit more $$$ into a decent rig to do more stuff like check emails make emails stream mod do other business and computer stuff on it vs a game console.


Once VR kicks off on PC as the standard it's over. Consoles will be gone. Nothing could really save them short of becoming just PCs with the game logos on them.
Mr Jt (Gog is king) 9 ago. 2022 às 1:21 
Originalmente postado por Nx Machina:
Originalmente postado por Mr Jt (Gog is king):
You can play it on pc. Get a physical version and voila it’s done

Is it SOLD on PC making it an OFFICIAL PC port/game. The answer is no.
Well yeah but you get my point. A pc port isn’t necessary
Nx Machina 9 ago. 2022 às 1:33 
Originalmente postado por Mr Jt (Gog is king):
Well yeah but you get my point. A pc port isn’t necessary

The point is it is NOT sold on PC, nor OFFICIALLY released by Sony as a PC game. In other words Sony do not condone piracy.

Thank you - free points.
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