She- Hulk is stronger than Hulk

[Natural Love]

And you know the reason why that’s the case.

[Holografix]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

It's an observation that women CAN be stronger than men, so therefore the only thing that a female character being stronger than a similar male character should mean... is that she's stronger. That's literally all there is to it unless you can build a stronger argument from other elements of the plot. The fact that she might be stronger, by itself, does not mean anything more than she's apparently stronger.

because left-wing = pro-woman
and
right wing = pro-man

It's a child's logic and it's blisteringly inane. An extreme binary system because it's easy for them to understand the world that way. No nuance at all.

it's why i don't reply to them.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Traror の投稿を引用：

...

I'm actually not too fond of narratives like this one which make an entire sex of an entire tribe dumb and incapable, whether it's to suit a narrative (which it likely could be), or whether it's just to suit someone's specific fantasy :
https://youtu.be/YJ4UFEYhER0

So, if I was to create a piece of media, I wouldn't do that. I'd try to make the characters a bit more diverse in thought & skill-set,
so that way the main character doesn't feel like a forced "Mary Sue trope".

Now... I'm usually not interested in creating female versions of male characters rather than just creating a new female character (which sort of actually is what they did with She-Hulk but they only went halfway since she's very unoriginal due to the amount of similarity)...

I'm usually not interested in creating female versions of male characters... HOWEVER... you have convinced me that whatever pieces of media I make, I need to make at least ONE spin-off with a female version of the same character that is stronger. Not because of any narrative. I already described that I disagree with such narratives but I can do it just for the sake of doing it
...and certainly not because creating things as a developer just to upset the expectations of people who demanded that I didn't use my freedom of choice to do whatever the heck I want - is funny to me.

Thank you Traror.
I'm writing this down in my book of game design ideas because it is very entertaining to me.
I would have never thought to do this without you.

[ChaffyExpert]

Holografix の投稿を引用：

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

It's an observation that women CAN be stronger than men, so therefore the only thing that a female character being stronger than a similar male character should mean... is that she's stronger. That's literally all there is to it unless you can build a stronger argument from other elements of the plot. The fact that she might be stronger, by itself, does not mean anything more than she's apparently stronger.

because left-wing = pro-woman
and
right wing = pro-man

It's a child's logic and it's blisteringly inane. An extreme binary system because it's easy for them to understand the world that way. No nuance at all.

it's why i don't reply to them.

Ya, anything pro-woman is left-wing Bs, that's what we said. Has nothing to do with leftists trying to gaslight us into thinking there is no biological differences between men and women, or just not wanting to hear feminazi crap.No, it must be as childish as "women bad". Because that makes sooooo much sense.

[@gork is this true]

Sha-Kira is stronger

[Holografix]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

I need to make at least ONE spin-off with a female version of the same character that is stronger. Not because of any narrative. I already described that I disagree with such narratives but I can do it just for the sake of doing it
...and certainly not because creating things as a developer just to upset the expectations of people who demanded that I didn't use my freedom of choice to do whatever the heck I want - is funny to me.

Honestly, the only reason to develop any character really.

[ChaffyExpert]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

Traror の投稿を引用：

...

I'm actually not too fond of narratives like this one which make an entire sex of an entire tribe dumb and incapable, whether it's to suit a narrative (which it likely could be), or whether it's just to suit someone's specific fantasy :
https://youtu.be/YJ4UFEYhER0

So, if I was to create a piece of media, I wouldn't do that. I'd try to make the characters a bit more diverse in thought & skill-set,
so that way the main character doesn't feel like a forced "Mary Sue trope".

Now... I'm usually not interested in creating female versions of male characters rather than just creating a new female character (which sort of actually is what they did with She-Hulk but they only went halfway since she's very unoriginal due to the amount of similarity)...

I'm usually not interested in creating female versions of male characters... HOWEVER... you have convinced me that whatever pieces of media I make, I need to make at least ONE spin-off with a female version of the same character that is stronger. Not because of any narrative. I already described that I disagree with such narratives but I can do it just for the sake of doing it
...and certainly not because creating things as a developer just to upset the expectations of people who demanded that I didn't use my freedom of choice to do whatever the heck I want - is funny to me.

Thank you Traror.
I'm writing this down in my book of game design ideas because it is very entertaining to me.
I would have never thought to do this without you.


:notebook: :seewhatyoudid::mrsthumbsup:

I actually agree with you, that's why when i was saying what i would think She-hulk should be, Stronger than the other male superheroes, but weaker than Hulk, however traded in for intelligence instead of going beserk. There is "funny hats" to make cultures/characters unique, and then there is "give them one trait and call it a day." The latter i despise.

Not to mention, you can give a character multiple things to make them distinctive, such as giving a culture, instead of just saying "roman Nazis, there, done" they could have weird speech patterns, code of honor, different dresswear, if talking about aliens, some sort of unique biological trait, all put together to make something interesting. Anyways though since we are talking about one character and the female version of it, this probably isn't relevant tbh.but i get what you're saying.


Nobody is saying you can't do that. I never said they can't make a She-hulk that's stronger than the Hulk. I said the reason for doing that, is to push political propaganda, but technically they could make She-hulk punch a hole in the moon, or one-shot Thanos, crush the infinity stones, punch the earth and make it spin in the opposite direction, almost beat Chuck Norris.... but just as you *can* do that, i *can* say it's leftists ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Holografix の投稿を引用：

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

...
I need to make at least ONE spin-off with a female version of the same character that is stronger. Not because of any narrative. I already described that I disagree with such narratives but I can do it just for the sake of doing it
...and certainly not because creating things as a developer just to upset the expectations of people who demanded that I didn't use my freedom of choice to do whatever the heck I want - is funny to me.

Honestly, the only reason to develop any character really. :Darling:

I am a big fan of Masahiro Sakurai. He is a troll developer. He sets up your expectations in the trailers for some amazing character and then you get a character that's just a box.

...and everyone buys the game anyways.

[ChaffyExpert]

Holografix の投稿を引用：

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

I need to make at least ONE spin-off with a female version of the same character that is stronger. Not because of any narrative. I already described that I disagree with such narratives but I can do it just for the sake of doing it
...and certainly not because creating things as a developer just to upset the expectations of people who demanded that I didn't use my freedom of choice to do whatever the heck I want - is funny to me.

Honestly, the only reason to develop any character really. :controlpope:

"I'm going to make this whole character, actually this WHOLE SHOW just to "own the conservatives!""

"wHy dOeS nOBoDy WaNt To wAtCh mY sHoW?"

"Must be because of racism/sexism/homophobia"

[Holografix]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

Holografix の投稿を引用：

Honestly, the only reason to develop any character really.

I am a big fan of Masahiro Sakurai. He is a troll developer. He sets up your expectations in the trailers for some amazing character and then you get a character that's just a box.

...and everyone buys the game anyways. :seewhatyoudid:

I've never played any Smash Bros games. Didn't have the requisite console. But i am familiar with playful troll developers. I really enjoy Kojima's games.

[Angel]

...now I need to watch She-Hulk. i wonder how they will handle the t-shirt rips on a female.
It was a meme for Hulk who went through so many tshirts.

[MistyMountainHop]

Angel の投稿を引用：

i wonder how they will handle the t-shirt rips on a female.
It was a meme for Hulk who went through so many tshirts. :marijaonlooker:

You are going to be disappointed.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Protagonist の投稿を引用：

She- Hulk is stronger than Hulk

And you know the reason why that’s the case.

Traror の投稿を引用：

Holografix の投稿を引用：

Honestly, the only reason to develop any character really. :controlpope:

"I'm going to make this character just to "stick it to the conservatives""

"wHy Is nOBoDy wAtChInG mY sHoW?"

Not conservatives - just you. *lol*

Several users, in this other topic, complaining that developers might put restrictions in their games that they don't like (even if for different reasons than the ones they're complaining about) convinced me that I need to make a game that prevents teabagging and mocks players for attempting it :
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3421062490368709704/?tscn=1658359624#c3476233614734708381
(I have no respect for the game-design expectations of my potential fans and am expecting them to either have a sense of humor or post a humorous meltdown for me to read later.)

I'm also considering making a game with nothing but white characters so that I can enjoy the ensuing Twitter meltdown,
and I'm also considering making a game with nothing but non-white characters so that I can enjoy the ensuing Parler meltdown.

It's considered bad game design to make a game that throws away all of the players progress and efforts at the end of the journey... I'm going to make a game that does that.

It's considered bad game design to make a game where the villain can not be defeated and you just have to watch him win... I'm going to make that too.

It's considered bad game design to make a dungeon game where a key item such as the boss-key is missing... I'm going to make that too - sadly I'm not the first to do this, though, because Capcom beat me to it already... despite this, it is still considered a horrendous thing to do to your players; I don't care.

I like to defy the demands of all people who I might be able to get a reaction out of - but I'm not a troll developer, there is a statement I'm making by defying demands - and it's that developers / directors SHOULD have creative freedom.
...but mostly I just like to have fun with my own creations.

[ChaffyExpert]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

Protagonist の投稿を引用：

She- Hulk is stronger than Hulk

And you know the reason why that’s the case.

Traror の投稿を引用：

"I'm going to make this character just to "stick it to the conservatives""

"wHy Is nOBoDy wAtChInG mY sHoW?"

Not conservatives - just you. :Poppo: *lol* :yondercat:

Several users, in this other topic, complaining that developers might put restrictions in their games that they don't like (even if for different reasons than the ones they're complaining about) convinced me that I need to make a game that prevents teabagging and mocks players for attempting it :
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3421062490368709704/?tscn=1658359624#c3476233614734708381
(I have no respect for the game-design expectations of my potential fans and am expecting them to either have a sense of humor or post a humorous meltdown for me to read later.)

I'm also considering making a game with nothing but white characters so that I can enjoy the ensuing Twitter meltdown,
and I'm also considering making a game with nothing but non-white characters so that I can enjoy the ensuing Parler meltdown.

It's considered bad game design to make a game that throws away all of the players progress and efforts at the end of the journey... I'm going to make a game that does that.

It's considered bad game design to make a game where the villain can not be defeated and you just have to watch him win... I'm going to make that too.

It's considered bad game design to make a dungeon game where a key item such as the boss-key is missing... I'm going to make that too - sadly I'm not the first to do this, though, because Capcom beat me to it already... despite this, it is still considered a horrendous thing to do to your players; I don't care.

I like to defy the demands of all people who I might be able to get a reaction out of - but I'm not a troll developer, there is a statement I'm making by defying demands - and it's that developers / directors SHOULD have creative freedom.
...but mostly I just like to have fun with my own creations.


:redcircle: :ycircle: :gcircle: :bluecircle: :pcircle:

"just me" i'm pretty sure all conservatives don't want to eat leftist ♥♥♥♥. In fact most people in general don't like the taste.

Hate to break it to you, but if you made a cast of all non-whites, nobody would even bat an eye, that's like the least edgy thing you could do.

Nobody said you can't do whatever you want to do, in fact i support that 100% and have said as much in many threads.

But, i have a right to call it leftist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and not watch it. It would be one thing, if i said "We must boycott or try to get you fired for doing X thing!" totally another to say "ya this seems like propaganda, not going to watch." Not that i was going to anyways though.

[Holografix]

Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at の投稿を引用：

Protagonist の投稿を引用：

She- Hulk is stronger than Hulk

And you know the reason why that’s the case.

Traror の投稿を引用：

"I'm going to make this character just to "stick it to the conservatives""

"wHy Is nOBoDy wAtChInG mY sHoW?"

Not conservatives - just you. :Poppo: *lol* :yondercat:

Several users, in this other topic, complaining that developers might put restrictions in their games that they don't like (even if for different reasons than the ones they're complaining about) convinced me that I need to make a game that prevents teabagging and mocks players for attempting it :
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3421062490368709704/?tscn=1658359624#c3476233614734708381
(I have no respect for the game-design expectations of my potential fans and am expecting them to either have a sense of humor or post a humorous meltdown for me to read later.)

I'm also considering making a game with nothing but white characters so that I can enjoy the ensuing Twitter meltdown,
and I'm also considering making a game with nothing but non-white characters so that I can enjoy the ensuing Parler meltdown.

It's considered bad game design to make a game that throws away all of the players progress and efforts at the end of the journey... I'm going to make a game that does that.

It's considered bad game design to make a game where the villain can not be defeated and you just have to watch him win... I'm going to make that too.

It's considered bad game design to make a dungeon game where a key item such as the boss-key is missing... I'm going to make that too - sadly I'm not the first to do this, though, because Capcom beat me to it already... despite this, it is still considered a horrendous thing to do to your players; I don't care.

I like to defy the demands of all people who I might be able to get a reaction out of - but I'm not a troll developer, there is a statement I'm making by defying demands - and it's that developers / directors SHOULD have creative freedom.
...but mostly I just like to have fun with my own creations.


:redcircle: :ycircle: :gcircle: :bluecircle: :pcircle:

"Gas-light me harder daddy."
or
"Troll me until I can't be trolled no more."

The joys of gaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw4rcLDOtnU

[The Grim Reaper]

hatsunny bigmiku💙 の投稿を引用：

The Grim Reaper の投稿を引用：

Women bodybuilders look gross.

So you prefer men? 😳

No I'm not into bodybuilders. Stop thinking like an immature kid.