Would you use the preffered pronouns

[Vault Hunter 101]

Imagine you meet a person and you see a massive "My pronouns are xe/xim/xir" pin on them. Would you call them xe/xim/xir or would you use "traditional" he/she pronouns when talking with them? If yes/no please say why

[permanent name]

There’s no second person plural in modern English. Except y’all, which is not widely accepted. And also doubles as a singular case.

Please refer to me as y’all.

[Netaris]

I am in favor of that kind of pronouns, they're a great way to destroy the english language. But try to import them in my native language and I'll roast you without any mercy. :)

[hi friends]

No, and I'd rather not interact with them. Haven't seen anyone do that with my native language (and my language also has he already), why should I care about some random english speaking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥'s pronoun?

[sleeps]

so... lgbt are a little angel who did nothing wrong at all?

sounds like a stretch tbh

[pasa]

Автор сообщения: Vault Hunter 101

Imagine you meet a person and you see a massive "My pronouns are xe/xim/xir" pin on them. Would you call them xe/xim/xir or would you use "traditional" he/she pronouns when talking with them? If yes/no please say why

Why would anyone in right mind want to talk with such person? Walk by, problem solved. All champions of compelled speech can go straight to hell, not stopping at GO collecting $200. And pick up all the other tyrants and bullies too.

[pasa]

Автор сообщения: Rupika

Автор сообщения: pasa

Why would anyone in right mind want to talk with such person? Walk by, problem solved. All champions of compelled speech can go straight to hell, not stopping at GO collecting $200. And pick up all the other tyrants and bullies too.

One of the banks in my country is putting pronouns on the name badges. So that's why. And you can say well I will just find another bank but... as soon as one does, it they are all gonna do it. They all gotta be on the virtue signalling bandwagon and other businesses will follow suit. Might as well get used to it.

Are you making up problems? Do you read name tags on people? Esp. clerks? And address them in any way? How come I never did that -- if in bank I'm there on business, sttate what it is and move on.

And in last 10-20 years you can do majority of your banking through home bank app or even just the internet page.

[Ramonkey]

Автор сообщения: brisket <3

Автор сообщения: Ramonkey

I see the issue here is we have different definitions of what we call “organized”, or perhaps different experiences most likely because we don’t live in the same country

no, i'm simply using the definition of "organized" that's relevant to the point being discussed

Ok. So I wrote that in an attempt to end the conversation yesterday, saying there is the possibility of different interpretations and experiences so we could very well both be right at the same time

Normally that works and we wish each other a good day, but you just had to disagree for the sake of disagreeing didn't you

[ambi]

Автор сообщения: Xero_Daxter

I always use the proper pronouns. He/she and boy/girl.

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Автор сообщения: Jade Strawberries

Автор сообщения: brisket <3

not all trans women want to be feminine in the way you consider someone to be feminine

it's true, one's gender is part of one's mind
and if we comform to gender, it's gonna be comforming to the standards we have for ourselves
if her body doesn't cause her dysphoria, then there's no need for her to change it

There's a general idea of what femininity means even across cultures, especially since some parts of gender is also linked with sex.
Women are generally less strong and men are generally more strong, which reflects on their behavior. Why? Because hormones cause women to be less physically strong and men to be more physically strong. Hormones also cause different thoughts.

I don't like how trans people (or queer people in general) sometimes rewrite the meaning of gender.
I've noticed that some try to push that make-up isn't feminine, which I don't agree with. Why can't we instead push the idea that anyone can be who they are and that gender-nonconforming people exist? If a man uses make-up, they become more feminine, and that's okay. We don't have to change the meaning of gender for that.

Also I'm confused, how can a trans woman not feel dysphoric about their body if they're trans?
I heard that gender euphoria is required at the very least, BUT that also implies they still would prefer to be something else, yet they still wouldn't want to do it?
No matter how you put it, it's a contradiction. A person that isn't okay with how they are yet doesn't want to change makes NO sense.

here's the thing, everyone's got their own personal view of gender, their own set of things that they tie to a given gender or not
for instance, i don't consider the penis to be a masculine trait– sure, it's the make reproductive organ, but my mind has completely detached it from the concept of masculinity, and thus i get no dysphoria from mine

being trans has to do with one's internal sense of who they are, and ultimately whether or not something may cause dysphoria or euphoria will depend on the ideas they have in mind

someone may not feel dysphoria from their body, but maybe something about their own behavior causes them dysphoria, or maybe a certain way of expressing themselves gives them euphoria; this can be the case even if the body is very clearly gendered according to their own standards



most of these things apply more so to non-binary people, but they can absolutely apply to binary trans people

Автор сообщения: Ramonkey

Автор сообщения: brisket <3

no, i'm simply using the definition of "organized" that's relevant to the point being discussed

Ok. So I wrote that in an attempt to end the conversation yesterday, saying there is the possibility of different interpretations and experiences so we could very well both be right at the same time

Normally that works and we wish each other a good day, but you just had to disagree for the sake of disagreeing didn't you

what

[Yasahi]

I'd just speak in a language (like Finnish for example) that does not have gendered pronouns, problem solved!

[sleeps]

Автор сообщения: Yasahi

I'd just speak in a language (like Finnish for example) that does not have gendered pronouns, problem solved! :2018bestaward:

Speak my language then. Everyone's pronouns is all "dia"

[Siluva]

Автор сообщения: Ad Victoriam !

I am in favor of that kind of pronouns, they're a great way to destroy the english language. But try to import them in my native language and I'll roast you without any mercy. :)

Already a thing, "iel". Bloody awful.

Автор сообщения: Ramonkey

Ok. So I wrote that in an attempt to end the conversation yesterday, saying there is the possibility of different interpretations and experiences so we could very well both be right at the same time

Normally that works and we wish each other a good day, but you just had to disagree for the sake of disagreeing didn't you

You're wasting your time with that guy honestly.

[Perquisitore]

Автор сообщения: Siluva

Автор сообщения: Ad Victoriam !

I am in favor of that kind of pronouns, they're a great way to destroy the english language. But try to import them in my native language and I'll roast you without any mercy. :)

Already a thing, "iel". Bloody awful.

Hey, I was curious but afraid to ask for some reason. So now I know.

[ambi]

I personally wouldn't. Those words are gibberish. It's a powerplay. They want you to cry uncle.

[sleeps]

U guys realize that not all gay and maybe even gendered people are into lgbt culture or even rights. Right?