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ambi 2022 年 9 月 2 日 上午 2:21
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Rings of Power CRASHES and BURNS! 45% on Rotten Tomatoes!
just wow. why is there a massive gap between media critics and audiences (80% vs 45%)? where are the legions of fans?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_rings_of_power

edit: as a comparison, the House of the Dragon got an 85% audience score.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/house_of_the_dragon
最后由 ambi 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 2 日 上午 2:23
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The Commendatore 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:11 
引用自 Your_White_Knight
The fact that it's just TERRIBLE in writing, acting, story line... is just even more reason to dislike them trying to ruin a great story...
What boggles my mind is that someone green lit the show in this state.
ChaffyExpert 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:13 
Gotta applaud Amazon for paying people to lurk the Steam forums though, waiting for a chance to say "this show gr8, everyone who disagree is sexist and data!"

Really going out of their way with the fake review bots.
最后由 ChaffyExpert 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:14
Allgemeine 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:18 
Is it trash?
The Commendatore 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:18 
引用自 Traror
Gotta applaud Amazon for paying people to lurk the Steam forums though, waiting for a chance to say "this show gr8, everyone who disagree is sexist and data!"

Really going out of their way with the fake review bots.
Don't they also delete negative reviews? I can't remember.
ChaffyExpert 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:26 
引用自 The Commendatore
引用自 Traror
Gotta applaud Amazon for paying people to lurk the Steam forums though, waiting for a chance to say "this show gr8, everyone who disagree is sexist and data!"

Really going out of their way with the fake review bots.
Don't they also delete negative reviews? I can't remember.

I was making a joke but yes they deleted negative reviews, i'm certain they are paying people to give it high reviews.

Not sure if that's the case for some of these people on Steam posting or if they actually think RoP is good.
Your_White_Knight 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:27 
引用自 The Commendatore
引用自 Your_White_Knight
The fact that it's just TERRIBLE in writing, acting, story line... is just even more reason to dislike them trying to ruin a great story...
What boggles my mind is that someone green lit the show in this state.

The farther from the real world the farther from them understanding what their viewers want.

I bet Bezos and the upper levels of the company don't even watch what they make... it makes their friend circles of entertainment elite hive-mind happy... that's all that matters to them.
AUTI5T1X 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 3:47 
引用自 Allgemeine
Is it trash?
Well, to be quite fair, it was created by Amazon. I'll leave the math to you.
doug 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 5:14 
引用自 Your_White_Knight

No... "conspiracy" means "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful" but there's nothing "secret" about it... they came right out and said their intents.
That's the same nonsense argument that people put "-phobe" and "-phobic" after things in order to claim it's some sort of "irrational" "fear"...

Claiming it's "irrational" in order to dismiss it doesn't dismiss it... it just shows your intent.
You realise this sounds deranged as well, right? Surely one of you must be self-aware?

You think that I'm dismissive of a poor argument because you believe I want to harm you or your culture or your precious manhood or whatever, instead of realising I'm dismissive of your argument because t doesn't make any sense. It's way too convoluted and blown way out of proportion. If you people really believe there's an agenda to turn you all into black girls there's nothing I can say to change your mind because you're too far gone.
最后由 doug 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 5:18
trousers 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 6:17 
this was my favourite part of episode 3
Your_White_Knight 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 6:29 
引用自 beetrout
this was my favourite part of episode 3

It was better written and more exciting that's for sure... :winkkit:
Your_White_Knight 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 6:34 
引用自 CookedKen
引用自 Your_White_Knight

No... "conspiracy" means "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful" but there's nothing "secret" about it... they came right out and said their intents.
That's the same nonsense argument that people put "-phobe" and "-phobic" after things in order to claim it's some sort of "irrational" "fear"...

Claiming it's "irrational" in order to dismiss it doesn't dismiss it... it just shows your intent.
You realise this sounds deranged as well, right? Surely one of you must be self-aware?

You think that I'm dismissive of a poor argument because you believe I want to harm you or your culture or your precious manhood or whatever, instead of realising I'm dismissive of your argument because t doesn't make any sense. It's way too convoluted and blown way out of proportion. If you people really believe there's an agenda to turn you all into black girls there's nothing I can say to change your mind because you're too far gone.

Again trying to be dismissive ... you have no argument other then "it's irrational" when it's not.

Keep on swimming in your delusions... it doesn't affect reality and you are failing to prove otherwise.

You can't even keep your narrative straight... you don't even know what you are arguing about.

Maybe you can find a job on "The View" with the other people who don't have a clue on reality.
doug 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 6:39 
引用自 Your_White_Knight
引用自 CookedKen
You realise this sounds deranged as well, right? Surely one of you must be self-aware?

You think that I'm dismissive of a poor argument because you believe I want to harm you or your culture or your precious manhood or whatever, instead of realising I'm dismissive of your argument because t doesn't make any sense. It's way too convoluted and blown way out of proportion. If you people really believe there's an agenda to turn you all into black girls there's nothing I can say to change your mind because you're too far gone.

Again trying to be dismissive ... you have no argument other then "it's irrational" when it's not.

Keep on swimming in your delusions... it doesn't affect reality and you are failing to prove otherwise.

You can't even keep your narrative straight... you don't even know what you are arguing about.

Maybe you can find a job on "The View" with the other people who don't have a clue on reality.
I don't have a narrative. I'm literally just trying to understand yours.
Samurai 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 6:48 
47 pages so far of absolute drivel and so many rules broken.

Yet if i was to call anyone out for being dumb, i would receive another warning or ban.

The moderation in this place is a joke.
Jackie Daytona 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 8:34 
引用自 Traror
What's funny though, is how strong male characters that people like freak them out so much. Like that storm-trooper turned good guy in the sequels that i don't know the name of bc i didn't see those movies, but from what it sounds like, they had a good male character people liked, so they had to shoot that down quick.
The rumor is that Finn (that stormtrooper you mention) was meant to become a Jedi. It's clear that episode 7 sets him up for that. (The movie poster shows him holding a lightsaber.) However, his character's role was downplayed in Asian markets. Particularly, China.

Most notably, his character was reduced in size for Chinese advertisements. Episodes 8 & 9 relegated him to a comedic role. One which took place mostly outside the main story. (And thus easy to edit out.)
引用自 CookedKen
You people crying "blackwashing" and "reeeee feminists ruin everything" are deranged. Amazon changed LoTR because they thought it would sell better to modern audiences.Disney "diversified" Star Wars because they though it would sell better to modern audiences. There's no conspiracy to turn men into women or white people into black people. It's not white genocide or emasculation, it's just capitalism.
lol, no.

Top Gun: Maverick proves that what you are saying is wrong. "Modern audiences" haven't fundamentally changed since the 1980's. People want what they have always wanted. It's just that Hollywood refuses to give it to them.

Every single form of entertainment has been altered to conform to the progressive stack.

From the 1970's to the 1990's, most music was made by white people. Now? Hardly any is. (Outside of country music which is desperate for content.) Is it because white people suddenly stopped making music? No. It's because the industry rejects them in favor of diversity. It's why boy bands stopped being a thing. It's why the entire rock genre is dead.

I used to be a huge fan of Marvel comics. Around ten years ago, (Or so.) an effort was made to systematically eliminate all popular straight white male heroes.
  • Cyclops was made into a villain. Killed Xiavier, and was thrown in prison.
  • Steve Rogers retired and made Falcon the new Captain America.
  • Thor became unworthy, and his ex-girlfriend gained his powers.
  • Bruce Banner gave his powers to Amadeus Cho. Becoming the new Hulk.
  • Tony Stark retired. Deciding instead, to mentor a brilliant young black girl named, "Ree Ree Williams". Tony Stark also briefly became a villain.
  • Wolverine was killed. He was replaced by his female clone, X-23.
  • Peter Parker was killed. So that he could be replaced by Miles Morales. A young multi-racial guy. That became the new Spider-man.
  • The Sentry was completely corrupted by The Void, and destroyed.
  • Iceman suddenly decided he's gay.
Marvel comics have experienced a steady decline in sales. Which directly coincides with their efforts to replace characters with younger and/or more diverse versions.

Capitalism isn't driving these changes. Political activists, are. It has never been profitable to take an extreme political stance.

P&G learned this the hard way. They hired a far-left feminist to direct a Gillette ad. The ad didn't talk about getting a good shave. Instead, it shamed men for existing.

Before the ad, Gillette controlled 77% of the U.S. disposable razor market. Afterwards? This dropped to 66%. Within 12 months. (And most likely continued to drop after that.) Mach 3 refills used to cost $25. Now you can get them for $12, or less.

This loss was so great that P&G broke into a bunch of smaller companies.

RoP is no different from any of this. LotR had six movies that were male power fantasy. Which were followed-up by a direct-to-streaming series obsessed with diversity and female empowerment. They rejected their audience, to appeal to one that does not exist.

There's nothing wrong with diversity or representation. It only becomes a problem when it supersedes everything else. Keep it subtle, and no one will care. Shove it in everyone's face? Expect a lot of people to not like it.
Jade 2022 年 9 月 10 日 下午 8:41 
引用自 Jackie Daytona
引用自 Traror
What's funny though, is how strong male characters that people like freak them out so much. Like that storm-trooper turned good guy in the sequels that i don't know the name of bc i didn't see those movies, but from what it sounds like, they had a good male character people liked, so they had to shoot that down quick.
The rumor is that Finn (that stormtrooper you mention) was meant to become a Jedi. It's clear that episode 7 sets him up for that. (The movie poster shows him holding a lightsaber.) However, his character's role was downplayed in Asian markets. Particularly, China.

Most notably, his character was reduced in size for Chinese advertisements. Episodes 8 & 9 relegated him to a comedic role. One which took place mostly outside the main story. (And thus easy to edit out.)
引用自 CookedKen
You people crying "blackwashing" and "reeeee feminists ruin everything" are deranged. Amazon changed LoTR because they thought it would sell better to modern audiences.Disney "diversified" Star Wars because they though it would sell better to modern audiences. There's no conspiracy to turn men into women or white people into black people. It's not white genocide or emasculation, it's just capitalism.
lol, no.

Top Gun: Maverick proves that what you are saying is wrong. "Modern audiences" haven't fundamentally changed since the 1980's. People want what they have always wanted. It's just that Hollywood refuses to give it to them.

Every single form of entertainment has been altered to conform to the progressive stack.

From the 1970's to the 1990's, most music was made by white people. Now? Hardly any is. (Outside of country music which is desperate for content.) Is it because white people suddenly stopped making music? No. It's because the industry rejects them in favor of diversity. It's why boy bands stopped being a thing. It's why the entire rock genre is dead.

I used to be a huge fan of Marvel comics. Around ten years ago, (Or so.) an effort was made to systematically eliminate all popular straight white male heroes.
  • Cyclops was made into a villain. Killed Xiavier, and was thrown in prison.
  • Steve Rogers retired and made Falcon the new Captain America.
  • Thor became unworthy, and his ex-girlfriend gained his powers.
  • Bruce Banner gave his powers to Amadeus Cho. Becoming the new Hulk.
  • Tony Stark retired. Deciding instead, to mentor a brilliant young black girl named, "Ree Ree Williams". Tony Stark also briefly became a villain.
  • Wolverine was killed. He was replaced by his female clone, X-23.
  • Peter Parker was killed. So that he could be replaced by Miles Morales. A young multi-racial guy. That became the new Spider-man.
  • The Sentry was completely corrupted by The Void, and destroyed.
  • Iceman suddenly decided he's gay.
Marvel comics have experienced a steady decline in sales. Which directly coincides with their efforts to replace characters with younger and/or more diverse versions.

Capitalism isn't driving these changes. Political activists, are. It has never been profitable to take an extreme political stance.

P&G learned this the hard way. They hired a far-left feminist to direct a Gillette ad. The ad didn't talk about getting a good shave. Instead, it shamed men for existing.

Before the ad, Gillette controlled 77% of the U.S. disposable razor market. Afterwards? This dropped to 66%. Within 12 months. (And most likely continued to drop after that.) Mach 3 refills used to cost $25. Now you can get them for $12, or less.

This loss was so great that P&G broke into a bunch of smaller companies.

RoP is no different from any of this. LotR had six movies that were male power fantasy. Which were followed-up by a direct-to-streaming series obsessed with diversity and female empowerment. They rejected their audience, to appeal to one that does not exist.

There's nothing wrong with diversity or representation. It only becomes a problem when it supersedes everything else. Keep it subtle, and no one will care. Shove it in everyone's face? Expect a lot of people to not like it.
^:steamthumbsup:
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